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Default Radar Detector into GPS

Do you think it would be possible to shove the components of a radar detector into a GPS?

As it could easily still be on your front windscreen but not look like a radar detector?

Just wondering if it would be feasible..
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I think the systems are detectable from the Police end as you approach.

Hang on have a read here.

I like the "stealth" radar detector - detector - detector circuit.
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Radar detectors have been concealed in numerous 'less conspicuous' surrounds for a long time.

The problem is that a radar detector will still be 'detected' and police will stop you and search your vehicle until it's located.
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Radar detectors have been concealed in numerous 'less conspicuous' surrounds for a long time.

The problem is that a radar detector will still be 'detected' and police will stop you and search your vehicle until it's located.
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But there are people out there who specialise in making "Stealth" units that are not detectable.

I have several of these units at a cost of $1500.00 each installed in all my vehicles.
Doesn't mean i speed, but they are a good early warning system to me and the people who drive my vehicles to get our speed under control before getting a fine.
These units can also be flashed in firmware for any update to the system that maybe required.

PS: Don't go asking me where i get them from! "For obvious reasons"
I will not buy or sell them here either.
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1500 bucks? Thats a lot of speeding fines...
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in sa its a $350 fine and 3points dont ask how i know the detectors are fitted to highway patrol cars i got done just out of snowtown
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My good old friend bought my radar detector off me a few years back, he did a long distance trip and got pulled over. The 1st thing the cop said to him was. "this conversation is being recorded" followed by do you have a radar detector on board. he said he thought it was funny how when he pulled into a petrol station a few k's back the cop drove in, did a lap and then drove out again. Must have had a sniff, but when my mate turned his engine off to fill up, the signal dropped off.
He got a $500 fine from memory.
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why not just use the GPS to find the speed traps and red light cameras.
mine sounds a "beep" at 200m from the revue device.

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Do these things actually work? I'm guessing it only works for you poor bastards in nsw and vic where they have more fixed cameras on roads than the big brother house.
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why not just use the GPS to find the speed traps and red light cameras.
mine sounds a "beep" at 200m from the revue device.

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Only as good as the database.... doesn't work for mobile radar and camera locations.

The bottom line is....

Don't speed... no need to pay fines, lose points or pay for expensive gadgets.
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Radar Detector Detectors
Main article: Radar detector detector
The superheterodyne receiver in radar detectors have a local oscillator that radiates slightly, so it is possible to build a radar-detector detector, which detects such emissions (usually the frequency of the radar type being detected, plus about 10 MHz). The VG-2 Interceptor was the first device developed for this purpose, but has since been eclipsed by the Spectre III. [1] This form of "electronic warfare" cuts both ways - since detector-detectors use a similar superheterodyne receiver, many early "stealth" radar detectors were equipped with a radar-detector-detector-detector circuit, which shuts down the main radar receiver when the detector-detector's signal is sensed, thus preventing detection by such equipment. This technique borrows from ELINT surveillance countermeasures. In the early 1990s, BEL-Tronics, Inc. of Ontario, Canada (where radar detector use is prohibited) found that the local oscillator frequency of the detector could be altered to be out of the range of the VG-2 Interceptor. This resulted in detector manufacturers responding by changing their local oscillator frequency. Today, practically every radar detector on the market is immune to the VG-2 Interceptor
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My experinence:

"Beginning in the late 1990’s a product designed to detect the presence of an illegally operated radar detector was introduced to be used by law enforcement personnel. It was called a radar detector detector, RDD. Kustom Signals Inc. marketed this product under the name of VG-2 as it was looking for RF local oscillator leakage at 11.55 GHz. Subsequent to the VG-2, the Spectre RDD was introduced to the American market by Microstealth Technologies of Australia. The Spectre detected a wide range of local oscillator, LO, frequencies as radar detector makers changed their electronic configurations. A new VG-4 RDD has now entered the market from Hill Country Research of Fredericksburg, TX. The range at which the RDD’s detected radar detector Local Oscillator leakage is a measure of its compliance with the aforementioned FCC requirements for “unintentional radiators.” Many times high leakage radar detectors will interfere with other radar detectors in the opposite lane of an interstate highway. The opposite lane radar detector will alert the driver, but in actuality it’s receiving the high leakage signal of the radar detector approaching."

"Radar detectors continually strive to make their detectors “leak proof” with improved shielding. During SML’s June Annual Detector Test all radar detectors were exposed to all RDDs including the newest revision of the Spectre, the Spectre III. All detectors were detected by the Spectre III. Some were detected at great distances past 1/4 mile."

"Beltronics, Inc. contracted with SML to determine the detectability of their new STi radar detector. Detectability is defined as not radiating any signal."

"The Beltronics STi Driver was completely invisible to all RDDs down to point blank range with the noses of the test vehicle and the test van touching. It’s the black hole of signal leakage. The only way to detect the Sti Driver is to see it."

I have tested this Detector myself with a frequency counter and a sniffer I cannot find any oscillator leakage. It also seem to work on the road in a real life situation, I have had no problems.

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Radar Detectors are great, the Spectre RDD are even better, but at the end of the day most LEO's that use RADAR these days use 'Instant On' which basicly means the RADAR will only transmit when the operater presses the button. It takes only 1-2 seconds to aquire your speed so by the time your Radar Detector goes off you have alreay been nabbed.

But if you are only trying to avoid the speed cameras around the city, you can usualy spot them a mile away and don't need a radar detector anyway.

I have been using the Spectre II RDD and Kustom Signals Golden Eagle Radar for some years now and I bet I can give your Stealth Radar Detector a good run for it's money.
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Don't know why they havnt developed a radar detector with a LO of 11.3 or 10.7. With the hundreds of LNBs radiating on these freqs, it would be impossible to detect the detectors unless they were in remote areas with no houses nearby.
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Don't know why they havnt developed a radar detector with a LO of 11.3 or 10.7. With the hundreds of LNBs radiating on these freqs, it would be impossible to detect the detectors unless they were in remote areas with no houses nearby.


Would be absolutely useless as the radar units are not on those frequencies.
You need to do some research about the RF Spectrum.
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