remote

Is every one up with the ETS? Very curious about peoples thoughts,,, Who's policy would you vote for? And what are your reasons..

Fernbay

Abbot is a hypocrite. He says 'climate change is crap'
Why on earth would anyone vote for a party that has a policy that claims to address climate change, when the leader putting forward the policy doesn't believe the science himself?

It's a bit like being lectured by a boozy, chain smoking doctor.

Not that I like the other mob any better.
Their EST seems to favor polluters & wants to compensate them

And they both want a 5% reduction by 2020 - Thats not even trying! What a waste of time

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poiuytrewq

Where's neither as a poll option?

And the Liberals aren't offering an ETS, just proposing to spend unfunded billions of taxpayers money.

roguefan99

LOL I was thinking the same thing, the Libs dont really have an ETS, they cant have one because we all know that Abbott only believes in one thing.

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remote

As far as I can tell, You only have 2 choices,, A green vote is a labor vote. If you don't vote at all, then don't complain later..

BF2010

this poll is better worded as "do you believe in climate change?"

labor=yes
liberal=no

I reckon a election is coming soon

jmc96

If you're still sitting on the fence on this one, and have an open mind, you will find this program might be of interest to you. It's about to start about now:

Lord Monckton speaks about Climate Change at the National Press Club 9.34pm AEDT
It's on the a-pac channel on Foxtel or watch it live on a-pac's website.

Arbiter

I'm hearing rumours for around August.
A mate is busy making the cardboard polling booths atm.
Be interesting to see what other bullshit/diversions get put over us before then.

elbee111

This is the first time I have listenened to this Toff, he shits me but whatever...........

Sanity

We have already had that one. Do a search , worth a look just for the results.

Sanity

Did anyone see Julia Gillard blunder through her interview with Laurie Oakes this morning ?
I wonder if she has ever actually answered a direct question ? She really is worst than a used car salesman.

remote

Penny wong wasn't any better on lateline,, She was asked more than 6 times what the ETS was going to cost and could not give an answer..

viper5150

While Abbott my not be convinced, at least he is giving the electorate an alternative. You may not like it or believe it will do nothing but it is an alternative. He has put more than enough pressure on Labour to explain their policy and give us a reason why it isnt just another tax.

At least we seem to at least get an answer to a question from the opposition. The whole Labour party seem convinced that answering a question with a pre-written response and dodging the question completely is the way to go with Rudd being the worst. Watch any interview with him and he will come out with one of two things - either he will say " Let me just say this....." or ask himself another question that he has a prepared answer to.

Sanity

Yep , thats exactly what I am talking about. Abbott to his credit ( and not always to his benefit ) at least has the balls to answer a direct question put to him.

Gillard was an absolute disgrace this morning , Laurie Oakes continually asked her to answer the question and she still wouldnt. All she would come up with has a rant against Abbott and a spiel about how great the government is.

Its about time political commentators really started playing hardball with politicians doing this. We elect them , they have to be accountable whether they like it or not. And if that means losing some of their popularity , thats their problem to deal with.

The fact that Labor cannot and will not provide answers to questions is at last finally starting to backfire on them.

adam

i would vote neither as well if it were a choice. i'd like to vote labor but i can only see it costing me $$$, and i think that tony abbot is a complete wank. either way, it won't make a dot of difference, i think that climate change is going to happen regardless of an ets or not. It may just be how we adapt to it that becomes the reality and determines how we as people live in 100 yrs time.

adam

bureaudechange

How else they gonna get all those hand outs and all that a-z of stimulus money they doled out back into the treasury coffers, hmmm ??
Just as they treated us all to that hat trick of interest rate rises begining the very first tuesday after the FHOG was scaled back October 1st, this is yet just another in a long line of cynical rorts to seperate the sheople from their hard earnt $$$.
Beauty of it all is, most seem more than happy to pay ! They'll even vote him back into office, lol.

Global warming, in how it's currently being portrayed, is a rort: The planets been heating and cooling in cycles for millions of years.. Vikings were growing crops in Greenland back in their day.. Even now Europe's had one of their coldest winters ever and you're getting record snow dumps in China and the States, culminating just this weekend in Washington DC..

TPTB just need to raise $$$'s to shore up the "GLOBAL" financial mess they've helped create. We've had the tech bubble, stock market bubble, now we're entering the final stages of the real estate bubble, so now they want to introduce us to the eventual thrills and spills of the upcoming carbon trading bubble... Think of that in 12 - 18 months time after the SHTF and we're in the mother of all recessions/depressions and you've lost your job,your income, or worse both, and are having to pay through the nose for all this gobbledegook, aka green taxes & the like. Still, they gotta get the money from somewhere, at least this way every man and his dog'll feel good i spose, and all this altruistic mumbo jumbo should serve to keep everyone off the streets - we hope anyways.. If Kev's crew gets this through, good on em. Wish i could be as cynical as they are.

Oh, i wouldn't vote for either, but if i had to, i'd vote for Abbott.. But this is the third time, so look for Liebor to do some backroom sweetheart deal with the greens or should that turn to dust, most likely we'll be treated to this very probable double dissolution the talking heads on tele are on about, the one in which K Rudd will get voted back in so we can all line up and "do our bit" by paying for this smorgasbord of new green taxes ASAP. So pay up everybody and feel great !! :-)