Thread: QLD State Election

Roads were great?! I lived in QLD during Joh's reign and I can tell you that the roads most certainly were not great, not even close.

Originally Posted by Reschs

Interesting that Joh is mentioned.
A very unusual leader. He was hated by everyone who did not live in Queensland.
Under his rule they had the best infrastructure of any state.
Hospitals were free, personal experience, even to interstate visitors.
Roads were great and schools funded. No Toll Roads.
Joh fought Whitlam on the Medibank Levy because his state would be worse off.
Sure he had his detractors, but he did do positive things for the state.
Most people condemn him for his stance on demonstrations and we have since realized he was basically right.

Jeff Kennett is probably the only other Premier in recent times to do major positive things, although Nick Greiner gave it a good try.

Not quite true. I was born and grew up in Queensland through those times and he was hated by many Queenslanders.
He was as corrupt as hell and was only saved from prison by his age (no retrial) and the young national in his trial jury that elected himself as foreman and created a hung jury.
He tore down classic buildings (Bellevue and Cloudland) in the middle of the night using police to stop anyone protesting.
From memory he only got 34% of the primary vote in one election but was still premier because of the jerrymander developed by labor and tweaked even further by him creating a massively unfair electoral system

Way too much more to write here but read this to get a better idea of him...he achieved a lot but was an utter prick.

the only thing that really concerns me as a qlder after the election is the huge majority. (to which I contributed a vote) To me and I am cynical it means more of a sit down, shut up and do as your told government. Time will tell of course.
The history is interesting though, only 4 changes of government via a general vote since 1905, the last being when Joh got ousted. the previous coalition national government in the 90's was via a by election. history shows most governments are in QLD for a long long time.

I certainly hope you are right there enf. I voted LNP, but the massive majority is a worry. I agree with you about the failings of the labor party and some of the absurd things that have been said and are still believed. my hope is that my vote does not give us a state government which has a holier than thou attitude.
I really hope to see them live up to all election promises and not revert to core and non core. I really hope not to see them hide behind the ridiculous mandate bullshit all parties do when they have a majority.
I did find it humorous watching the federal political advisors and so on saying why the LNP won so well and labor lost so badly. not one thing they said rings true with me and most people I know.
Carbon tax imo has nothing whatsoever to do with way most voted
Julia again no influence whatsoever.

The main reason I voted LNP was that what they promised over labor was better suited for mine and my family needs.
the fact that even though Bligh did an exceptional job duringthe floods which I do not think most pollies could even have come close too, it still does not erase her nearly bankrupting QLD within a term GFC or not.
And the fact that our assets make a lot of money, so why sell them for short term benefit when the long term gain in preferential in the eyes of the voters ?
Essentially it came down to being sick of the BS and hoping that a change no matter what had to made and it could not be any worse.
The so called political experts on the telly and their opinions proved to me how far out of touch all political parties have gotten with every day voters if they truely believe the dribble that came out of their mouths.

I lived in the NT during Joh's reign, we used to laugh that Queenslander's was so proud of Queensland that they would not even post a sign to say that you were entering their state. Not that it was necessary as we all knew. The roads suddenly turned from driveable to merely passable as goat tracks. Even the Stuart Hwy in South OZ was better than that then. (Did I mention that that, the Stuart Hwy, was 600 miles of dirt!)

Originally Posted by enf

Are they paid enough to attract top people? Personally I think they should have to earn their pay increases. All the ALP seem to do is promote dud union organisers, not top people in my view. Oh, and ex rock singers, sorry.

Thats the exact question I asked someone a couple of weeks ago.

Who would you rather have represnt you ? An under qualified idiot who has been boosted in to parliament based on union friends they have or their media social status OR someone with some sort of background that is likely to be beneficial to you and your country (and can understand that you cant just borrow money forever) ?


I will disagree with you Ozchips in regards to the link federally. People are sick of irresponsible spending and borrowing and Labor are the gurus at doing exactly that. They are sick of dodgy spin and lies and again, Labor is at the fore front of it.

I dont see it as any surprise that Labor have been booted out of Victoria, NSW and QLD in quick succesion.

In Victoria we went through the pain of the sale of state assets in the early 90's. The Labor Cain/Kirner Government ran up that much debt it affected the states credit rating. They were then booted out, Liberal took over and sold everything off to pay the debt. Some pain for a positive solution.

Now here we are in 2012, and Liberal are cleaning up Labor's mess again in Victoria. This time they have left a debt of 47 billion dollars and I cant see any way out of this one.

If Labor want to be a credible political party, they need a policy other than borrow and spend. Its killing us all and is going to get a lot worse in the future.

I agree to that to outsiders federal politics may have somethin g to do with it, but funnily enough all the times everyone hangs shit on QLDERs is in this case for good reason. We are a bit like the USA, if it does not happen inside our borders it did not happen at all . The big thing federally anmd you will notice a big drop in labor suopport as soon as this happend both for federal and state politics was wehn when Rudd got the knife. Support for state labor dropped again overnight when he did not win his challenge. Thing with Rudd was like him or hate him he is a qlder and that is enough for us simple minded folk here in the north But believe me that would be the biggest federal point affecting state politics here. Strange but bizzarely true.

And Enf again I agree, I wanted a change, the lnp offered better policy so I voted for them. I just never in my wildest dreams would have ever thought that the rout would have been so complete. you kn ow the old saying absolute power.
but i did vote for them and I am quetly confident i made the right decision.

It was also quite a surprise to see how many primary votes Katter's party got, a hell of a lot.

Labor did have a few extras going against them which did not help, I think it was 10 long term pollies had already announced that thois would be their last term at the last election. Not quite rats deserting a sinking ship but maybe some good premnition. If the old favorite is there you would vote for a change over someone brand new flogging the same dead horse imo.
Personlly I do not see the LNP as the holy grail and the fix that QLD needs(the last government was quite obviously not that either by a long shot), but if I ignore that fact that the premier is a bloke I detest, as long as he stands by his word and policies i will be a happy little QLDER

Qld'ers will be ok with the LNP.

We in NSW are 12 months down the track with the new LNP government, and things have never been better.

I think that's what Mr O'Farrell tells us...gotta be true hey?

Local Gov't elections about a month away in Qld. Former independent for Burnett got his ass wooped by LNP candidate at the weekend. Not to worry, can't meddle in state issues any longer so he's standing for Mayor. Hide as thick as a Rhino. Got to wonder how many Local Gov't areas this is happening in.

Originally Posted by mandc

Not quite true. I was born and grew up in Queensland through those times and he was hated by many Queenslanders.
He was as corrupt as hell and was only saved from prison by his age (no retrial) and the young national in his trial jury that elected himself as foreman and created a hung jury.
He tore down classic buildings (Bellevue and Cloudland) in the middle of the night using police to stop anyone protesting.
From memory he only got 34% of the primary vote in one election but was still premier because of the jerrymander developed by labor and tweaked even further by him creating a massively unfair electoral system

Way too much more to write here but read this to get a better idea of him...he achieved a lot but was an utter prick.

As I said an unusual leader.

I was pointing out that he actually did get infrastructure built and was achieving things.
The later lot, both sides, have not achieved anything like it.

I would not hold him up as the ideal politician either.

Originally Posted by MrRadio

Local Gov't elections about a month away in Qld. Former independent for Burnett got his ass wooped by LNP candidate at the weekend. Not to worry, can't meddle in state issues any longer so he's standing for Mayor. Hide as thick as a Rhino. Got to wonder how many Local Gov't areas this is happening in.

And to put it bluntly, that is the biggest problem, professional polititions.

Originally Posted by viewer

Qld'ers will be ok with the LNP.

We in NSW are 12 months down the track with the new LNP government, and things have never been better.

I think that's what Mr O'Farrell tells us...gotta be true hey?

COMMUNITY leaders, planning experts and the public at large have called on Premier Barry O'Farrell to get our Sydney moving again. hahahahaha

LATEST polling has confirmed the Gillard government is headed for electoral oblivion with its primary vote falling to 28 per cent - just one point shy of the depths Labor plumbed in Queensland.

The exclusive Newspoll in The Australian today, which shows Labor would be wiped off the map federally as it was in the Sunshine State, comes as the Prime Minister remained in complete denial about the political shockwave, reported The Daily Telegraph.

In South Korea at a nuclear summit with world leaders, Julia Gillard said Saturday's election result was "a deep, deep disappointment" but denied it had anything to do with unpopular federal policies such as the carbon tax.

Newspoll today has federal Labor's primary vote crashing from 31 per cent to 28. Labor's primary vote in Queensland was 26.9 per cent.

The Coalition is up four points to 47 while the Greens fell one point to 11 per cent.

The two-party preferred result should also send shivers down ALP powerbrokers' spines with Labor down four points to 43 and the Coalition up four points to 57 per cent.

Senior federal Labor MPs are warning Ms Gillard that without a strategy to "win back Queensland", the party faces being decimated.


At yesterday's count, LNP was on track to win 77 seats and Labor just eight.


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