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Hi Team,

I want to transfer files between my 3 computers at fastest possible transmission rate with a wireless whatever.

Gaming could also be a possiblity for my growing family.

Is the "whatever" called a router or something something else?

Are gaming routers like this one D-Link DGL-4500 Xtreme N Gigabit Router suitable?
Mwave Australia: D-Link DGL-4500 Xtreme N Gigabit Router

Thougths and recommendations for models to acquire and which ones to stay away from please...?

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What sort of wireless cards are in the other computers remember the network is only as good as it's weakest point
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That unit will probably do what you want, but as Mal says, no point in having a wireless router that can do 500 mph if the wireless cards in your computers can only do 30.
A lot can depend on the physical locations of your PCs as well. If they are at a distance from the router, speed will drop depending on signal strength. Put one upstairs and through a block wall and it will drop even more.
As for brand, D-Link don't do much for me - I've had a lot of problems with their gear ranging from modems that refuse to connect to ADSL properly to others that just die for no apparent reason or appear to be working when in fact they aren't.

I've been installing Linksys equipment recently and so far so good - but that's just my opinion.
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Thanks.

Whatabout simple firewire and ignore the gaiming bit.

Just straight forward file swapping with PCs next to each other?

I see itech has numerous brands :
Firewire/ SCSI/ USB

I am thinking of going for Firewire 800 Mbps pci-e 1394b.
NitroAV (Akumen Inc) :: PCI and CardBus Adapters :: 7-Port NitroAV PCI-Express FireWire 800/1394b and USB v2.0 Combo Professional PCIe Host Adapter (MAC/WIN/LINUX)

Your thoughts on the Firewire 800 and do i really get 800Mbps or is it a fallacy?

Where can i buy a pci-e 800Mbps firewire card in Australia?

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Thanks.

Whatabout simple firewire and ignore the gaiming bit.

Just straight forward file swapping with PCs next to each other?

I see itech has numerous brands :
Firewire/ SCSI/ USB

I am thinking of going for Firewire 800 Mbps pci-e 1394b.
NitroAV (Akumen Inc) :: PCI and CardBus Adapters :: 7-Port NitroAV PCI-Express FireWire 800/1394b and USB v2.0 Combo Professional PCIe Host Adapter (MAC/WIN/LINUX)

Your thoughts on the Firewire 800 and do i really get 800Mbps or is it a fallacy?

Where can i buy a pci-e 800Mbps firewire card in Australia?

Byte

If you are thinking of going Firewire for 800Mbps, just get a 1Gbps router and 3 1Gbps LAN cards in each machine.
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Thanks George.

Recommended brand of these components (besides D-Link)?

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Off the top of my head I know D-Link, Linksys and Netgear have Gigabit routers.

Just some things to keep in mind with trying to achieve maximum network speeds. There will always be a bottleneck somewhere in the system.

Here are some useful transfer rates of various components in your PC.

Computer Bus throughput

PCI Express (x4 link) = 8000 Mbit/s 1000 MB/s
AGP 4x = 8533 Mbit/s 1067 MB/s
PCI-X 133 = 8533 Mbit/s 1067 MB/s
PCI-X QDR 16-bit = 8533 Mbit/s 1067 MB/s
PCI Express (x8 link) = 16,000 Mbit/s 2000 MB/s
AGP 8x = 17,066 Mbit/s 2133 MB/s
PCI-X DDR = 17,066 Mbit/s 2133 MB/s
HyperTransport (800 MHz, 16-pair) = 25,600 Mbit/s 3200 MB/s
HyperTransport (1 GHz, 16-pair) = 32,000 Mbit/s 4000 MB/s
PCI Express (x16 link) = 32,000 Mbit/s 4000 MB/s
PCI-X QDR = 34,133 Mbit/s 4266 MB/s
AGP 8x 64-bit = 34,133 Mbit/s 4266 MB/s
PCI Express (x32 link) = 64,000 Mbit/s 8000 MB/s
PCI Express 2.0 (x16 link) = 64,000 Mbit/s 8000 MB/s
PCI Express 2.0 (x32 link) = 128,000 Mbit/s 16,000 MB/s

Mechanical Drives (HDD's)

Ultra DMA ATA 33 = 264 Mbit/s 33 MB/s
Ultra Wide SCSI 40 = 320 Mbit/s 40 MB/s
Ultra DMA ATA 66 = 528 Mbit/s 66 MB/s
Ultra-2 wide SCSI 80 = 640 Mbit/s 80 MB/s
SSA = 640 Mbit/s 80 MB/s
Ultra DMA ATA 100 = 800 Mbit/s 100 MB/s
Fibre Channel 1GFC = 850 Mbit/s 106.25 MB/s
iSCSI over Gigabit Ethernet = 1000 Mbit/s 125 MB/s
Ultra DMA ATA 133 = 1064 Mbit/s 133 MB/s
Serial ATA (SATA-150) = 1500 Mbit/s 187.5 MB/s
Ultra-3 SCSI 160 = 1280 Mbit/s 160 MB/s
Fibre Channel 2GFC = 1700 Mbit/s 212.5 MB/s
Ultra-320 SCSI = 2560 Mbit/s 320 MB/s
Serial ATA (SATA-300) = 3000 Mbit/s 375 MB/s
Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) = 3000 Mbit/s 375 MB/s
Fibre Channel 4GFC = 3400 Mbit/s 425 MB/s

Memory Throughput

PC2-4200 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 67.2 Gbit/s 8.4 GB/s
PC2-5300 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 84.8 Gbit/s 10.6 GB/s
PC2-5400 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 85.328 Gbit/s 10.666 GB/s
PC2-6400 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 102.4 Gbit/s 12.8 GB/s
PC2-8000 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 128.0 Gbit/s 16.0 GB/s
PC2-8500 DDR2-SDRAM (dual channel) = 136.0 Gbit/s 17 GB/s
PC3-8500 DDR3-SDRAM (dual channel) = 136.0 Gbit/s 17 GB/s
PC3-10600 DDR3-SDRAM (dual channel) = 165.6 Gbit/s 21.2 GB/s
PC3-12800 DDR3-SDRAM (dual channel) = 204.8 Gbit/s 25.6 GB/s
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Thansk mate!
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Don't buy D-link!

The bad things you've heard about D-Link are all true. They are junk, always have been and they don't seem to be improving. Very unreliable products, very expensive and very hard to set up, even when they are working correctly.

Good brands i've had are:
Netgear - Dead easy to use, very reliable, good price. My top pick!
Billion is very good these days, can be very complex and have advanced
(complex) features you may never use.
TP-Link are cheap, good value and seem to do the job well.

Every D-link product i've ever used has blown up at some point. EVERY time each d-link product appears to be working when they are in fact dead as a do-do, stuffed!
The longest i've got out of a D-link product was a PCMCIA wireless card, lasted about 6 months.

Go with netgear. There is a guy here who deals in TP-Link brand gear, I forget who he was though.
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Don't buy D-link!

The bad things you've heard about D-Link are all true. They are junk, always have been and they don't seem to be improving. Very unreliable products, very expensive and very hard to set up, even when they are working correctly.

Good brands i've had are:
Netgear - Dead easy to use, very reliable, good price. My top pick!
Billion is very good these days, can be very complex and have advanced
(complex) features you may never use.
TP-Link are cheap, good value and seem to do the job well.

Every D-link product i've ever used has blown up at some point. EVERY time each d-link product appears to be working when they are in fact dead as a do-do, stuffed!
The longest i've got out of a D-link product was a PCMCIA wireless card, lasted about 6 months.

Go with netgear. There is a guy here who deals in TP-Link brand gear, I forget who he was though.

Netgear??? i have one of their routers Absolute POS
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I think he means Linksys, not netgear
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which one?

Linksys.com - Products/Home/Networking


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