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Old 18-10-08, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a pre installed 65cm dish, lnb and dreamax dt470. trying to point the dish to intelsat 8 to get free chanels. the receiver seems to be not working. have pointed the dish the rightway as this website said: Home Cabling Solutions. but how do i get the receiver to look for sattelite. I am in Brisbane. This is my first time. Please help me out.

Same story if I tried to point the dish to nss6. any ideas?
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Old 18-10-08, 05:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a pre installed 65cm dish, lnb and dreamax dt470. trying to point the dish to intelsat 8 to get free chanels. I am in Brisbane. This is my first time. Please help me out. Same story if I tried to point the dish to nss6. any ideas?
Well... there are a few FTA channels in various laguages.
From the very start....
#1 What sat were you on when the dish was originally set and did you get pix?
#2 As long as you don't have trees in the way, should be ok for I8.
#3 From Optus C1 Aurora/Foxtel (156 degrees) move VERY, VERY, SLOWLY to the right and down just a tad.
#4 For a test card try 12.526 H 28800 for the Select TV info page.
#5 LyngSat - Lyngemark Satellite or Satellite Control Center SatcoDX for further freqs and info.
This should get you going.
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P.S. A 65cm is adequate for I8 (but a 85cm is better) oh and yes a 45cm will work too!
PSS What's the go with $79.95 for Select from Home Cabling Solutions, I thought it was $39.95?????
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Old 18-10-08, 06:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Talking Basic setup.

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I have a pre installed 65cm dish, lnb and dreamax dt470. trying to point the dish to intelsat 8 to get free chanels. the receiver seems to be not working. have pointed the dish the rightway as this website said: Home Cabling Solutions. but how do i get the receiver to look for sattelite. I am in Brisbane. This is my first time. Please help me out.

Same story if I tried to point the dish to nss6. any ideas?
G'Day Cobber,
It's Not quite as easy as you think. Your dish has a very narrow beam width and you are trying to point it at a Geostationary Sat that is in the " Clarke Belt ", 37,000 Kms above the equator. There are many programs to calculate the Azimuth and elevation of the various Sats from your location.
Here's one you can have a look at while I get some figures for you.

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Satellite Finder / Dish Pointing Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com

Here you are:
Address: Brisbane, Australia
Latitude: -27.4676°
Longitude: 153.0279°
Satellite: 166.0E Intelsat 8
Elevation: 54.8°
Azimuth (true): 26.6°
Azimuth (magn.): 15.4°

You can click and drag the marker
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Don't forget - The LNB settings in the tuneing menu MUST match the L.O. frequency of the LNB in use on the dish, or you will get no signal at all.
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This illustrates the parabola where you would see the Sats to the North, from W to E.


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you all rock. thanks heaps for all the replies. How can I get the dream max to find satellite?

vmark: wow with your setup, you are serious with your hobby. would love to get some fo your knowledge.

drudi: really appreciate you advise. will try and play with the equipment again this weekend. not sure if the connections to lnb are working. cuz the receiver doesnt seem to be responding.

the dreammax I got says I got 25% quality even if I unhook the connection from LNB and does the same after I connect it. the receiver doesnt seem to be responding every time I move the dish. does anyone know how to paly wiht dreamax dt470?
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you all rock. thanks heaps for all the replies. How can I get the dream max to find satellite?

vmark: wow with your setup, you are serious with your hobby. would love to get some fo your knowledge.

drudi: really appreciate you advise. will try and play with the equipment again this weekend. not sure if the connections to lnb are working. cuz the receiver doesnt seem to be responding.

the dreammax I got says I got 25% quality even if I unhook the connection from LNB and does the same after I connect it. the receiver doesnt seem to be responding every time I move the dish. does anyone know how to paly wiht dreamax dt470?
Back about the third post I gave you these figures for Brisbane.
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Address: Brisbane, Australia
Latitude: -27.4676°
Longitude: 153.0279°
Satellite: 166.0E Intelsat 8
Elevation: 54.8°
Azimuth (true): 26.6°
Azimuth (magn.): 15.4°

You've obviously moved tour dish from where it was previously.
On the mast to dish bracket you will normally have a graduated scale either side. One elevation and the other latitude. Use either of these to set the above figures. Then you can very slowly swing your dish L to R through the Azimuth, 26.6 degrees true or 15.4 degrees magnetic.
If that does not get a signal, then we'll have to go through your receiver setup. Let us know how you go.
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Thanks heaps drudi. sorry for late reply. was away. I gotta admit, I am pretty clue less when it comes to all this, still in process of learning. will try what you explained and let you know how I went. can you also please tell me how I can setup the receiver? best regards.
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Old 15-11-08, 11:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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reactor2,

Perhaps you haven't actually aligned the dish accurately.

Can you explain how you have aligned your dish to IS8?

eg: what type of signal meter did you use?

Have you adjusted the LNB skew?... as viewed from the font of the dish, the cable connection on the LNB should be approx at the 5 o'clock position.
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hi MTV and Drudi
MTV, the dish was preinstalled. yes I did move the dish thinking that my receiver would tell me if it finds a sattelite. Wasnt I wrong. I bought a sattelite finder, doesnt work at all or I must be pointing at wrong direction. can you please tell me how I can setup my receiver. I bought a dreamax dt470. I also checked the cabling from dish to receiver. I got twin output from lnb. one output is connected directly from lnb to wall socket. another output (this is confusing)is connected to a splitter at wall socket. from that splitter another cable runs to a separate splitter thats connected to an antenna. hope I didnt confuse you guys. should I just get rid off the spare lnb output? also can you recomend me to any books I can learn more about sattelite TV,setup and terminology etc. thanks heaps fellas.
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While new and clueless myself.

Power is supplied to the LNB from STB and Only one connection supplies power to the LNB from your box, this could be why you are not getting anywhere.

I personally with only one week of experience would start by finding an easier target bird, like optus C1. Then get a little more adventurous and look for D1 & D2.

From my location they a just a small blip on the sat finder either side of C1

After you find the bird you then need to use the blind scan feature on the box to find channels.

That’s about the limit of my knowledge for one week.

Druid was helping me heaps but seems to have disappeared since the 8th of this month, I hope he is OK and returns soon, A PM from anyone that knows him would be appreciated.
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A little more info thanks again to Druid.

put your post code in to location, then locate your house.

Then select sat you want.

Satellite Finder / Dish Pointing Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com

Be aware that just a small error in aliagnment and you will miss the bird.


PS to tell if you have your LNB connected correctly, when you hook up your sat finder at the LNB it also gets power from your STB and as you turn the gain knob up the meter should move as it hears back ground noise.

If that is not happening start looking at your connections.
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reactor2,

All good advice offered so far.... Satellite Finder / Dish Pointing Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com is very useful.

The cabling/splitter arrangement you described sounds like you've previously had Foxtel IQ inslalled, requiring two connections from the dual LNB (one for each tuner in the box) it sounds like one is cabled directly to the wall outlet and the tech has combined the LNB output and a FTA antenna on the other cable with a diplexer/combiner, (which looks like a splitter) then used another combiner in reverse at the outlet plate, to separate the sat & FTA again... this method is generally only used in situations where it's difficult/impossible to run a separate dedicated cable to the LNB.

Both sat outlets should work, but I'd prefer using the one without the combiner/separators in the line.

Remember, you must have power to the satfinder for it to work, which is supplied via the coax cable for the receiver... exactly as it would power the LNB.

It's worth checking you are actually getting power at the LNB end of the cable. Check with a volt/multimeter that you have between 13-18VDC

Start with the sensitivity of the satfinder turned up, then reduce it as you find stronger signals.

I'd agree with what hawk said about finding C1 first, to get the hang of using the satfinder and aligning the dish.

I'm not familiar with your receiver, but others here will be.

With any receiver, you must match the LNB local oscillator frequency with the setting in the box. eg: most common ones for Ku Band are LO 10700MHz or 11300MHz. If you don't do this, you won't get reception.

Most dual LNB's are 10700

Hope this helps
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you guys are so helpfull. Really apreciate it. will check all the cables and start looking for C1 and will let you all know of any success. thanks
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