MythTv and sasc NG - Page 6

**covert** · 17-07-09, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dibbz

Hi all, thanks for this thread it has been very helpful. I have everything compiled and the module loaded. Reading around, instructions have this example in them for the CCcam config;
cccam:127.0.0.1:9000:0/0123/F000

However this does my head in.. how does it connect to the CCcam server without credentials, is it expected that CCcam is running on the same machine?

post #40 has some info about how I set up newcs. sac-ng does the cam work so no need for cccam. newcs does the key severing work.

In my cardclient.conf my card line is
radegast:192.168.0.2:10001:0/090b/FFFF

It connects to newcs, (currently 1.50 but new version work). Details on configuring newcs is somewhere in this thread. It is the radegast section. We have found using a newcamd line to connect with to be unstable.

You sasc-ng log / console will be very informative if it connected to the card server or not. Card server must be up and connectible on start up of sasc-ng. It will not retry.

**jimbo123** · 17-07-09, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dibbz

Hi all, thanks for this thread it has been very helpful. I have everything compiled and the module loaded. Reading around, instructions have this example in them for the CCcam config;
cccam:127.0.0.1:9000:0/0123/F000

However this does my head in.. how does it connect to the CCcam server without credentials, is it expected that CCcam is running on the same machine?

I haven't gone back through the thread,.. some notes I have for if I ever get back to this,.. isn't that supposed to be radegast:127.0.0.1:9000:0/0123/F000,.. where that represents protocol:server:Port:autoupdate/caid/mask using radegast via newcs, auth done within the <radegastserver><allow> directive - have a read of a newcs.xml file that's populated with the standard comments. Hope that helps.

[Edit: Damn,.. covert beat me to it

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**covert** · 17-07-09, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo123

I ever get back to this

Falling behind Jimbo. Onto my second machine now. Got 7 days of guide data out of the stream today. Slowing patching all the little holes in this baby.

**jimbo123** · 17-07-09, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by covert

Falling behind Jimbo. Onto my second machine now. Got 7 days of guide data out of the stream today. Slowing patching all the little holes in this baby.

My be/fe needs a rebuild, so haven't spent any time on this

With any luck I may get back to this next weekend.

Was going to go with Ubuntu 8.04.1,... any preference/recommendations here ?

**dibbz** · 17-07-09, 10:41 PM

newcs is so 2008

I'll keep plugging away at the cccam patch.

Thanks for the prompt replys.

**covert** · 17-07-09, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo123

My be/fe needs a rebuild, so haven't spent any time on this

With any luck I may get back to this next weekend.

Was going to go with Ubuntu 8.04.1,... any preference/recommendations here ?

Last one I built was a 9.04 Mythbuntu. So far working like a charm except I got a dodgy 9400GT. Seems like the 9400GT and 9500GT should be avoided if you want vdpau.

**covert** · 17-07-09, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dibbz

newcs is so 2008

I'll keep plugging away at the cccam patch.

Thanks for the prompt replys.

Got some details on the cccam patch ?

**nick8888** · 18-07-09, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by covert

Last one I built was a 9.04 Mythbuntu. So far working like a charm except I got a dodgy 9400GT. Seems like the 9400GT and 9500GT should be avoided if you want vdpau.

Funny, 9400GT is actually the recommended video card for vdpau on xbmc. I have one and works fine. While Ive got ubuntu desktop/mythbuntu 9.04 weekly fixes, without the vdpau patch I cannot report on how well vdpau works in mythfrontend with the 9400gt but why would you want that when xbmc can be used as a frontend?

ps. thanks for the nice info the last couple of posts. I think I'm ready to start experimenting!

**covert** · 18-07-09, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nick8888

Funny, 9400GT is actually the recommended video card for vdpau on xbmc. I have one and works fine. While Ive got ubuntu desktop/mythbuntu 9.04 weekly fixes, without the vdpau patch I cannot report on how well vdpau works in mythfrontend with the 9400gt but why would you want that when xbmc can be used as a frontend?

ps. thanks for the nice info the last couple of posts. I think I'm ready to start experimenting!

vdpau error with 9400/9500GT

Not with all 9400GT but with some, including one in a new system I am building up.

I think MythFrondend does a better job as a FE than xbmc. I use xbmc for for everything else and just launch it of the mythfe menu so it has a high WAF.

I would consider using xbmc as a FE on a stand along FE like my apple TV with xbmc running in stand-alone mode (no windows manager)

**covert** · 18-07-09, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by covert

On a side note, I just added a $15USB dvb-t tuner from DX and I am rather impressed with it. I got the wrong one with a shitty antenna connection, nothing a soldering iron could not fix. sku.8309 has all the info needed to compile the drivers in v4l (easy as piss) sku.11565 has the correct antenna on connector on it. Just a heads up for anyone wanting to add another dvb-t tuner.

[edit]Enter the Multiplex and channels into mythtv to tune sbs[/edit]

Found a problem with this tuner today. it does not tune into the SBS transponder in victoria. Don't know about in other state. Could be just a linux driver issue. Tried full scan and entering the transponder freq.

Testing has shown it does not report signal strength either.

Also note sku.11565 does not have the correct antenna connector. So it is the same as sku.8309

**nick8888** · 19-07-09, 02:45 AM

For live tv atm yeah mythfrontend is better but once the pvr stuff is added to xbmc i think it will be hard to beat.

Funny you mention about SBS, I just spent a couple of days trying to get my SBS to tune properly. The only thing which kept me going was knowing that it worked as Kaffeine scanned and tuned every channel perfectly.

Have you tried running 'scan' on an initial tuning file?

heres some of my notes

particularly this
"REPLACE INTO dtv_multiplex VALUES (1, 1, 848, 12802, 599500000, 'a', NULL, 'NULL', NULL, 'NULL', '7', '2/3', '8', '1/8', 0, 'qam_64', 'n', '2/3', 'dvb', 33, '20080218201158');"

**nick8888** · 19-07-09, 02:47 AM

and

**covert** · 19-07-09, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick8888

For live tv atm yeah mythfrontend is better but once the pvr stuff is added to xbmc i think it will be hard to beat.

Funny you mention about SBS, I just spent a couple of days trying to get my SBS to tune properly. The only thing which kept me going was knowing that it worked as Kaffeine scanned and tuned every channel perfectly.

Have you tried running 'scan' on an initial tuning file?

heres some of my notes

particularly this
"REPLACE INTO dtv_multiplex VALUES (1, 1, 848, 12802, 599500000, 'a', NULL, 'NULL', NULL, 'NULL', '7', '2/3', '8', '1/8', 0, 'qam_64', 'n', '2/3', 'dvb', 33, '20080218201158');"

I have sorted out sbs now. Thanks to your post I decided to manually add the multiplex and channels into mythtv. I already have an existing installation with scanned sbs so I exported the sql from the working setup and imported it into the new system. It is all working perfectly now. Even after adding the multiplex manually mythtv could not scan the channels on it. When it tried to tune into the multiplex it return "no signal". Something is a little fishy with the drivers for this cheap dongle. I am going to try to look over it myself and see if I can sort it out.

**dibbz** · 19-07-09, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by covert

Got some details on the cccam patch ?

This also, which patches but I have not yet been able to get to build on debian testing, I suspect as the dependencies are a lot newer than that svn tag.

I figure if the myth patch works I can run the old backend and a new vdpau patched frontend.

**jimbo123** · 19-07-09, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dibbz

Aah, so that's where the reference to cccam:127.0.0.1:9000:0/0123/F000 came from.

**covert** · 19-07-09, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dibbz

This also, which patches but I have not yet been able to get to build on debian testing, I suspect as the dependencies are a lot newer than that svn tag.

I figure if the myth patch works I can run the old backend and a new vdpau patched frontend.

I wonder if it would be hard to apply the patch to 0.21+fixes+vdpau.. Keep us updated on how you go only patching the backend. Sounds like the logical solution. Might give this a shot on a test system.

**covert** · 06-08-09, 10:39 PM

dibbz how did you go with CCcam ?

I think I need to do some patchs to sasc-ng to get it working how I want it. Missed keys are starting to shit me.

**dibbz** · 11-08-09, 01:11 PM

I'm moving interstate (back to Brisbane), moving and packing is eating into my play time.

The good news is the DVB-T reception is line of sight at the new place *yay* Also a clean westerly aspect to get NSS6 and Asiasat4!

**Shonky** · 20-08-09, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by covert

Hows everyone going with a solution for the dropped keys / missed decryption ?

Starting to shit me and i want to try to sort it out. Don't want to reinvent the wheel. Anyone had some success with it ?

Finally

I got mine working about as good as yours after playing with different server types. Sometimes it's only two or three missed keys out of an hour. Sometimes I get heaps maybe missing 30 minutes out of 70 or 80 minutes (1 hour show plus my default pre and post roll). Sometimes it's perfect although that's fairly rare.

That other thread you posted I doubt is the problem. From it, it sounds like there are duplicate streams or something and occasionally it's returning the wrong key. I would expect a lot more than one or two missed keys in that case.

**couchpotato** · 03-09-09, 03:41 PM

Guys, I've been running Mythtv with sasc-ng for a few years now, for the most part its stable.

At one stage, Approx 6 months ago, I had issues and had to add the line --sid-nocache to the sasc-ng command line. I run like this for the FF card

./sasc-ng -j 0:1 --cam-dir /etc/sc_files/ --sid-nocache

The key misses seems to involve FFDECSA as I have 2 cards, first is a FF technotrend with inbuilt CSA Descrambler so it doesnt use FFDECSA and I get no key misses or small breaks in the pic with this card. My other card, a budget card uses FFDECSA and I get the same problems others are experiencing, its not too bad though and hardly bothers me.

The command line for the budget card is

./sasc-ng -j 1:0 --cam-dir /etc/sc_files/ --cam-budget --sid-nocache --sid-allpid

Without the --sid-nocache and --sid-allpid on the budget card, sasc-ng isn't stable, it will work but channel changes become a problem.

Whats worst is buggy mythtv, even on FTA, alot of the time when a program ends and a new one starts, mythtv will start a new ring buffer and craps out when switching, returning me to the menu, entering live TV again all is good till next program change. Seems there is a new bug every time I upgrade. Waiting for a stable .22 release.

Also, running NewCS and connecting using the radegast protocol, as someone else stated, newcamd protocol is unstable with sasc-ng.

Regards.

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dibbz Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 48 Gameroom cash: $1197 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 1	newcs is so 2008 I'll keep plugging away at the cccam patch. Thanks for the prompt replys. __________________ http://www.brissy.com.au/forum/

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covert Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My Imagination Posts: 944 Gameroom cash: $55 Thanks: 15 Thanked 29 Times in 17 Posts Rep Power: 22	dibbz how did you go with CCcam ? I think I need to do some patchs to sasc-ng to get it working how I want it. Missed keys are starting to shit me. __________________ By reading this, you have already given me control over a tiny slice of your mind

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dibbz Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 48 Gameroom cash: $1197 Thanks: 5 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 1	I'm moving interstate (back to Brisbane), moving and packing is eating into my play time. The good news is the DVB-T reception is line of sight at the new place yay Also a clean westerly aspect to get NSS6 and Asiasat4! __________________ http://www.brissy.com.au/forum/

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19-07-09, 02:45 AM	#111
nick8888 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5 Gameroom cash: $785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	For live tv atm yeah mythfrontend is better but once the pvr stuff is added to xbmc i think it will be hard to beat. Funny you mention about SBS, I just spent a couple of days trying to get my SBS to tune properly. The only thing which kept me going was knowing that it worked as Kaffeine scanned and tuned every channel perfectly. Have you tried running 'scan' on an initial tuning file? heres some of my notes particularly this "REPLACE INTO dtv_multiplex VALUES (1, 1, 848, 12802, 599500000, 'a', NULL, 'NULL', NULL, 'NULL', '7', '2/3', '8', '1/8', 0, 'qam_64', 'n', '2/3', 'dvb', 33, '20080218201158');"

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03-09-09, 03:41 PM	#120
couchpotato Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 10 Gameroom cash: $815 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 0	Guys, I've been running Mythtv with sasc-ng for a few years now, for the most part its stable. At one stage, Approx 6 months ago, I had issues and had to add the line --sid-nocache to the sasc-ng command line. I run like this for the FF card ./sasc-ng -j 0:1 --cam-dir /etc/sc_files/ --sid-nocache The key misses seems to involve FFDECSA as I have 2 cards, first is a FF technotrend with inbuilt CSA Descrambler so it doesnt use FFDECSA and I get no key misses or small breaks in the pic with this card. My other card, a budget card uses FFDECSA and I get the same problems others are experiencing, its not too bad though and hardly bothers me. The command line for the budget card is ./sasc-ng -j 1:0 --cam-dir /etc/sc_files/ --cam-budget --sid-nocache --sid-allpid Without the --sid-nocache and --sid-allpid on the budget card, sasc-ng isn't stable, it will work but channel changes become a problem. Whats worst is buggy mythtv, even on FTA, alot of the time when a program ends and a new one starts, mythtv will start a new ring buffer and craps out when switching, returning me to the menu, entering live TV again all is good till next program change. Seems there is a new bug every time I upgrade. Waiting for a stable .22 release. Also, running NewCS and connecting using the radegast protocol, as someone else stated, newcamd protocol is unstable with sasc-ng. Regards.