P4 3ghz IDE 500GB HDD wont install OS

**cobra679** · 21-11-09, 03:22 PM

I have got a p4 3ghz 2gb of ram. I have a 80gb hdd in it atm because when I tried to put my 500GB seagate in it I go to install windows 7 and windows xp also linux it wont let me install the OS the pins are set correctly and the bios has been updated.

Has anyone had the same problem and know how to solve it I've tried everything.

**mtv** · 21-11-09, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra679

I have got a p4 3ghz 2gb of ram. I have a 80gb hdd in it atm because when I tried to put my 500GB seagate in it I go to install windows 7 and windows xp also linux it wont let me install the OS the pins are set correctly and the bios has been updated.

Has anyone had the same problem and know how to solve it I've tried everything.

Does the motherboard accept a drive of that size?

Is it IDE or SATA?... if SATA, did you install the drivers first?

**ballbelter** · 21-11-09, 08:12 PM

Also check bios. It may need to be flashed with a newer version to enable it to recognise the larger drives correctly

**autotuner** · 22-11-09, 07:43 AM

Can you add the 500Gb to the running system as a secondary (I am guessing IDE as you mentioned pins) to see what it looks like? Allways possible it is faulty.

Or boot off a utility disc like Hirens or similar and see if the 500Gb is visible/accessible.

**anyone** · 22-11-09, 11:37 AM

check its recognised in bios, otherwise it wont do squat

**cobra679** · 22-11-09, 07:44 PM

It's an IDE hard drive and is recoginised in bios. I've lpaded the latest bios update. Can run it as a slave on the computer and use it as storage but still can't install an OS on it windows 7 and XP wont let me for some reason.

**Philquad** · 23-11-09, 05:33 PM

after assessing your problem thoroughly and through our
multilanguage service notification conversations
i would, try 1 stick of ram,another cd drive
you may even need to hit F6 on the keyboard after it formats before it starts to copy the files over
it might say achp or something

**Philquad** · 23-11-09, 05:36 PM

F5 sorry

The Role of the F5 Key and Shutdown Problems

When I first put this page together I meant to include this information. Unfortunately it totally slipped my mind. One of the hazards of being an Elder(ly) Geek, but better late than never. Thanks to reader Glen M. for jogging my memory.

When XP is first installed it tries to determine what type of BIOS is available on the computer. Newer systems have what is known as Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) capability. Unfortunately, XP doesn't always recognize a computer BIOS is ACPI capable and doesn't install the support for ACPI. Even more unfortunate is the fact that if ACPI support isn't determined at the initial install it's virtually impossible to correct this at a later time short of reinstalling XP over the top of the previous XP installation. To do so requires changing the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL). The chances of successfully changing a HAL after XP has been installed is pretty close to zilch.

Once you drop the CD in the tray and fire up the computer to install XP, the first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6 if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F5 instead. This will take you to a separate menu of Hardware Abstraction Layer's where you can choose an appropriate HAL that supports ACPI. The choices will be:

*

ACPI Multiprocessor PC
*

ACPI Uniprocessor PC
*

Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
*

Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible PC
*

MPS Uniprocessor PC
*

MPS Multiprocessor PC
*

Standard PC
*

Standard PC with C-Step i486
*

Other

In the majority of installations the 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' HAL is the one you will want to use. A few cautions are also in order:

*

Obtain and install the latest BIOS for your motherboard before you begin the XP installation.
*

Equally as important as using the proper HAL on ACPI capable systems, is NOT using it on systems that are not ACPI compatible. The install may complete but the system will almost surely fail to start when it reboots.
*

There are situations where it is definitely not desirable to use an ACPI HAL even if it is supported by the BIOS. This predominately applies to servers, but to ensure that an ACPI HAL will not be used or automatically detected and used, press F7 instead of F5 as discussed previously.

Considering the number of problems that users have with systems not shutting down completely I wonder why this feature is not prominently mentioned and documented. It could save many headaches, but now you know. A good piece of knowledge to have tucked away for your next XP install.

As a final note, to determine if your computer was detected as being ACPI enabled:

Right click My Computer then click Properties > Hardware > Device Manager.
Expand the entry called Computer.

If the entry is 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' you're all set. If it says 'Standard PC' the computer BIOS was not detected as being ACPI capable.

**Philquad** · 23-11-09, 05:49 PM

so
when it says hit F6 down bottom on the pretty blue screen
hit F5 (this is near F6)
and choose standard pc
this has happened because the you beaut 3ghz 2 gig ram pc you bought for $50 has a
pos motherboard in it

**cobra679** · 23-11-09, 09:04 PM

haha cheers phill its an intel

**Philquad** · 23-11-09, 09:22 PM

i kno its intel
but after thinking
i remembered my sons pc & few others just woundnt install on
it was the f5 trick
pos motherboards

**mickc** · 23-11-09, 09:38 PM

try fdisk and check partitions

**NoService** · 23-11-09, 10:52 PM

file system maybe?

NS

**cobra679** · 27-11-09, 09:46 PM

Thanks all.. Tried the 500GB hdd on my old pc AMD sempron which had it working fine before i bought this intel and it wouldnt work in that machine either. I cant have it as a slave for data storage because it crashes my computer and booting up takes forever. So there you go farkked hard drive. Think I'll be going down to buy a 1T for $95 tomorrow.

**loopyloo** · 29-01-10, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra679

It's an IDE hard drive and is recoginised in bios. I've lpaded the latest bios update. Can run it as a slave on the computer and use it as storage but still can't install an OS on it windows 7 and XP wont let me for some reason.

If it will run as a slave, it should also run as a master (providing the jumpers are correct).

What errors do you get during install ?

Have you tried another cable ?

Loopy

**cobra679** · 29-01-10, 07:33 PM

meh thanks loopyloo but i sold it as faulty.. I'm pretty sure it got fixed by the guy I sold it to though probably just some sector errors. I bought a 1.5T sata instead

goldi_locks20 · 29-04-10, 01:00 AM

i think it's time for an HD with a higher storage capacity. Mine is a WD Caviar Green. It features up to 2Tb of storage, it's also cool and low on power consumption. It's actually eco-friendly. It's from Western Digital.

21-11-09, 03:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
cobra679 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 315 Thanked 147 Times in 86 Posts Rep Power: 40	P4 3ghz IDE 500GB HDD wont install OS I have got a p4 3ghz 2gb of ram. I have a 80gb hdd in it atm because when I tried to put my 500GB seagate in it I go to install windows 7 and windows xp also linux it wont let me install the OS the pins are set correctly and the bios has been updated. Has anyone had the same problem and know how to solve it I've tried everything.

21-11-09, 08:12 PM	#3
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22-11-09, 07:43 AM	#4
autotuner Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 196 Thanks: 14 Thanked 35 Times in 32 Posts Rep Power: 5	Can you add the 500Gb to the running system as a secondary (I am guessing IDE as you mentioned pins) to see what it looks like? Allways possible it is faulty. Or boot off a utility disc like Hirens or similar and see if the 500Gb is visible/accessible. __________________ *I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy...* Learn Piano - Private Lessons Western Sydney Last edited by autotuner; 22-11-09 at 07:47 AM. Reason: fat fingers, cannot spell, old and feeble....

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22-11-09, 11:37 AM	#5
anyone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 Thanks: 21 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 5	check its recognised in bios, otherwise it wont do squat

22-11-09, 07:44 PM	#6
cobra679 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 315 Thanked 147 Times in 86 Posts Rep Power: 40	It's an IDE hard drive and is recoginised in bios. I've lpaded the latest bios update. Can run it as a slave on the computer and use it as storage but still can't install an OS on it windows 7 and XP wont let me for some reason.

23-11-09, 05:33 PM	#7
Philquad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Age: 42 Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 17 Thanked 215 Times in 103 Posts Rep Power: 40	after assessing your problem thoroughly and through our multilanguage service notification conversations i would, try 1 stick of ram,another cd drive you may even need to hit F6 on the keyboard after it formats before it starts to copy the files over it might say achp or something

23-11-09, 05:36 PM	#8
Philquad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Age: 42 Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 17 Thanked 215 Times in 103 Posts Rep Power: 40	F5 sorry The Role of the F5 Key and Shutdown Problems When I first put this page together I meant to include this information. Unfortunately it totally slipped my mind. One of the hazards of being an Elder(ly) Geek, but better late than never. Thanks to reader Glen M. for jogging my memory. When XP is first installed it tries to determine what type of BIOS is available on the computer. Newer systems have what is known as Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) capability. Unfortunately, XP doesn't always recognize a computer BIOS is ACPI capable and doesn't install the support for ACPI. Even more unfortunate is the fact that if ACPI support isn't determined at the initial install it's virtually impossible to correct this at a later time short of reinstalling XP over the top of the previous XP installation. To do so requires changing the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL). The chances of successfully changing a HAL after XP has been installed is pretty close to zilch. Once you drop the CD in the tray and fire up the computer to install XP, the first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6 if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F5 instead. This will take you to a separate menu of Hardware Abstraction Layer's where you can choose an appropriate HAL that supports ACPI. The choices will be: * ACPI Multiprocessor PC * ACPI Uniprocessor PC * Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC * Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible PC * MPS Uniprocessor PC * MPS Multiprocessor PC * Standard PC * Standard PC with C-Step i486 * Other In the majority of installations the 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' HAL is the one you will want to use. A few cautions are also in order: * Obtain and install the latest BIOS for your motherboard before you begin the XP installation. * Equally as important as using the proper HAL on ACPI capable systems, is NOT using it on systems that are not ACPI compatible. The install may complete but the system will almost surely fail to start when it reboots. * There are situations where it is definitely not desirable to use an ACPI HAL even if it is supported by the BIOS. This predominately applies to servers, but to ensure that an ACPI HAL will not be used or automatically detected and used, press F7 instead of F5 as discussed previously. Considering the number of problems that users have with systems not shutting down completely I wonder why this feature is not prominently mentioned and documented. It could save many headaches, but now you know. A good piece of knowledge to have tucked away for your next XP install. As a final note, to determine if your computer was detected as being ACPI enabled: Right click My Computer then click Properties > Hardware > Device Manager. Expand the entry called Computer. If the entry is 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' you're all set. If it says 'Standard PC' the computer BIOS was not detected as being ACPI capable.

23-11-09, 05:49 PM	#9
Philquad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Age: 42 Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 17 Thanked 215 Times in 103 Posts Rep Power: 40	so when it says hit F6 down bottom on the pretty blue screen hit F5 (this is near F6) and choose standard pc this has happened because the you beaut 3ghz 2 gig ram pc you bought for $50 has a pos motherboard in it

23-11-09, 09:04 PM	#10
cobra679 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 315 Thanked 147 Times in 86 Posts Rep Power: 40	haha cheers phill its an intel

23-11-09, 09:22 PM	#11
Philquad Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Age: 42 Posts: 1,373 Thanks: 17 Thanked 215 Times in 103 Posts Rep Power: 40	i kno its intel but after thinking i remembered my sons pc & few others just woundnt install on it was the f5 trick pos motherboards

23-11-09, 09:38 PM	#12
mickc Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: newcastle Posts: 924 Thanks: 35 Thanked 59 Times in 46 Posts Rep Power: 22	try fdisk and check partitions

27-11-09, 09:46 PM	#14
cobra679 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 315 Thanked 147 Times in 86 Posts Rep Power: 40	Thanks all.. Tried the 500GB hdd on my old pc AMD sempron which had it working fine before i bought this intel and it wouldnt work in that machine either. I cant have it as a slave for data storage because it crashes my computer and booting up takes forever. So there you go farkked hard drive. Think I'll be going down to buy a 1T for $95 tomorrow.

29-01-10, 07:33 PM	#16
cobra679 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,631 Thanks: 315 Thanked 147 Times in 86 Posts Rep Power: 40	meh thanks loopyloo but i sold it as faulty.. I'm pretty sure it got fixed by the guy I sold it to though probably just some sector errors. I bought a 1.5T sata instead

29-04-10, 01:00 AM	#17
goldi_locks20 Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 71 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 0	i think it's time for an HD with a higher storage capacity. Mine is a WD Caviar Green. It features up to 2Tb of storage, it's also cool and low on power consumption. It's actually eco-friendly. It's from Western Digital.

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