Help Pls: XP serious lag issue

**rob916** · 02-07-08, 06:54 PM

I have a laptop here that just lags.
Acer aspire 3500.
running xp sp2
Scanned with cureit, kaspersky and hijackthis
nothing at all.
When it boots it just lags, unusable.
Safe mode, no lag.
Did an acer recovery from their hidden image and same probs.
Got me stuffed.
Any help greatly appreciated

**ssrattus** · 02-07-08, 07:57 PM

Give Ultimate Troubleshooter a go to investigate what you have running, it gives advice on many usual apps. a PC has loaded, if it says "unknown" a google search should sort out what it is.

TUT - The best PC Tuning program and best PC Optimizing tool ever written - Watch the Video !

Ultimate.Troubleshooter.v4.62
Setup:

http://answersthatwork.fileburst.com...bleshooter.exe

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**rob916** · 02-07-08, 08:15 PM

thanks for the link ssrattus, but I really broke it now.
Did a recovery again, gets to the continue screen at the end of recovery and lags so much I cannot continue, so cannot give your TUT a go.
Has to be a hardware issue I think.

**z80** · 02-07-08, 08:23 PM

sounds like overheating, and the cpu has gone into thermal shutdown mode.

**PhillTheQuad** · 02-07-08, 08:26 PM

format it and reinstall
amazing thing

**rob916** · 02-07-08, 08:34 PM

Have done the format thing twice. No go.
I thought about the heat issue Z80 but the cpu fan switches on and off as normal.

**PhillTheQuad** · 02-07-08, 08:44 PM

did you say safe mode no lag?
maybe a driver problem.

**rob916** · 02-07-08, 08:56 PM

Strange one. Safe mode was ok, could not fault, but a system recovery ( as in an acer ghost image) would have restored everything back to factory.

I was running some diags from the hirens cd and got corrupted video with a crash( this might explain no probs in safe mode as running in VGA).

Bit annoying, the only PC that has ever beat me after hundreds( Bit hard to swap hardware out of a laptop) but after 5 hours I had to pull the pin.
It has gone with the owner to acer. Do these guys component level diagnose or just chuck a new motherboard in it? If it is a new MB I think it is not worth repairing.

Thank you to all for your help.

**z80** · 02-07-08, 09:28 PM

you did try swapping memory?

**rob916** · 02-07-08, 09:53 PM

Did not have another to swap it with atm. Tried reseating it and in the other slot though. Only a single 256mb, bit of a dud running xp, good ol harvey norman selling capable computers again.

**z80** · 02-07-08, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob916

Did not have another to swap it with atm. Tried reseating it and in the other slot though. Only a single 256mb, bit of a dud running xp, good ol harvey norman selling capable computers again.

aghhhhh...I am sure a few people would be suggesting that first up matey.

**rob916** · 03-07-08, 08:17 AM

I usually try to keep away from laptops, no spares.
It will be interesting to see what was wrong with it.

**Studio1** · 03-07-08, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillTheQuad

format it and reinstall
amazing thing

Why do so many people think that formatting a hard drive is some kind of magic "cure-all"? Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

I get it a lot with my clients - they often tell me that they need to reformat their drive, especially to reinstall Windows.

Rarely do I reformat a drive. I did one last week because the FAT had become corrupted, other than that or a bad sector table I can see no valid reason to format!

As shown, it didn't fix the problem.

**Woodstock** · 03-07-08, 01:32 PM

Format is always my last resort .. but sometimes its only the answer .

**bcni** · 05-07-08, 12:58 PM

You could try an OEM installation of XP. I use that with all PCs including laptops. Activation is no problem but you do need the drivers from the Net. At least you get the latest drivers which may overcome some bugs in the originals.

**rob916** · 05-07-08, 10:12 PM

Having any norton product on your system is a good reason to format as you will NEVER get rid of the crap completely.
OEM's really shit me as there are so many different versions and the legit serial you have with the system never works, even with keychanger.
I can easy put on a slipstreamed pirated copy, but this is not really the way I like to do things when the customer has paid for a license.
It comes down to time. I would rather not format, but if you look in "program files" and there are 400 folders, then format is for me.
BTW my system that I use everyday running xp pro was not formatted for over 4 years until a windows update screwed it.
I will NEVER have automatic updates turned on again.

**z80** · 05-07-08, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Studio1

Why do so many people think that formatting a hard drive is some kind of magic "cure-all"? Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

I get it a lot with my clients - they often tell me that they need to reformat their drive, especially to reinstall Windows.

Rarely do I reformat a drive. I did one last week because the FAT had become corrupted, other than that or a bad sector table I can see no valid reason to format!

As shown, it didn't fix the problem.

yep.

I'll tell you why...

It guarantees that the machine will be quicker to boot up afterwards and the customer will definitely SEE an improvement.

Two things happen to dramatically improve the speed.

(a) the system registry will be vanilla, without remnants of uninstalled programs

(b) a multitude of font files won't be present to slow down the desktop refresh process.

.

**rob916** · 05-07-08, 10:39 PM

and there will not be one skerrick of a norton product in the registry!( but there is)

**z80** · 05-07-08, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob916

and there will not be one skerrick of a norton product in the registry!( but there is)

not after a format...no no-no

.

**Godzilla** · 05-07-08, 11:15 PM

Yeah my moneys on ram and then format and install.

My lappy's been playing up did a format and reinstall for nothing.
Its got to be the ram, should have looked at that first.
Nortons is the best way to slow the hell out of a lappy.

02-07-08, 06:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	Help Pls: XP serious lag issue I have a laptop here that just lags. Acer aspire 3500. running xp sp2 Scanned with cureit, kaspersky and hijackthis nothing at all. When it boots it just lags, unusable. Safe mode, no lag. Did an acer recovery from their hidden image and same probs. Got me stuffed. Any help greatly appreciated __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

02-07-08, 08:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	thanks for the link ssrattus, but I really broke it now. Did a recovery again, gets to the continue screen at the end of recovery and lags so much I cannot continue, so cannot give your TUT a go. Has to be a hardware issue I think. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

02-07-08, 08:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	Have done the format thing twice. No go. I thought about the heat issue Z80 but the cpu fan switches on and off as normal. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

02-07-08, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	Strange one. Safe mode was ok, could not fault, but a system recovery ( as in an acer ghost image) would have restored everything back to factory. I was running some diags from the hirens cd and got corrupted video with a crash( this might explain no probs in safe mode as running in VGA). Bit annoying, the only PC that has ever beat me after hundreds( Bit hard to swap hardware out of a laptop) but after 5 hours I had to pull the pin. It has gone with the owner to acer. Do these guys component level diagnose or just chuck a new motherboard in it? If it is a new MB I think it is not worth repairing. Thank you to all for your help. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

02-07-08, 09:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	Did not have another to swap it with atm. Tried reseating it and in the other slot though. Only a single 256mb, bit of a dud running xp, good ol harvey norman selling capable computers again. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

02-07-08, 07:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
ssrattus Super Moderator iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,369 Spent time on board: 1 Month, 0 Weeks, 4 Days and 6:47:42	Give Ultimate Troubleshooter a go to investigate what you have running, it gives advice on many usual apps. a PC has loaded, if it says "unknown" a google search should sort out what it is. TUT - The best PC Tuning program and best PC Optimizing tool ever written - Watch the Video ! Ultimate.Troubleshooter.v4.62 Setup: http://answersthatwork.fileburst.com...bleshooter.exe RapidShare: Easy Filehosting

02-07-08, 08:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
z80 Premium Member iTrader: (94) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 4,953	sounds like overheating, and the cpu has gone into thermal shutdown mode.

02-07-08, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
PhillTheQuad Quadmeister iTrader: (7) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Posts: 618 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 10:47:37	format it and reinstall amazing thing

02-07-08, 08:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
PhillTheQuad Quadmeister iTrader: (7) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nelson bay Posts: 618 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 10:47:37	did you say safe mode no lag? maybe a driver problem.

02-07-08, 09:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
z80 Premium Member iTrader: (94) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 4,953	you did try swapping memory?

03-07-08, 08:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	I usually try to keep away from laptops, no spares. It will be interesting to see what was wrong with it. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

03-07-08, 01:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Woodstock Senior Member iTrader: (14) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mt Gambier Posts: 795 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 8:42:47	Format is always my last resort .. but sometimes its only the answer . __________________ Trust thyself only, and another shall not betray thee.

05-07-08, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
bcni Junior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 18 Spent time on board: 6:36:21	You could try an OEM installation of XP. I use that with all PCs including laptops. Activation is no problem but you do need the drivers from the Net. At least you get the latest drivers which may overcome some bugs in the originals.

05-07-08, 10:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	Having any norton product on your system is a good reason to format as you will NEVER get rid of the crap completely. OEM's really shit me as there are so many different versions and the legit serial you have with the system never works, even with keychanger. I can easy put on a slipstreamed pirated copy, but this is not really the way I like to do things when the customer has paid for a license. It comes down to time. I would rather not format, but if you look in "program files" and there are 400 folders, then format is for me. BTW my system that I use everyday running xp pro was not formatted for over 4 years until a windows update screwed it. I will NEVER have automatic updates turned on again. __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

05-07-08, 10:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
rob916 Premium Member iTrader: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 781 Spent time on board: 3 Weeks, 2 Days and 0:24:36	and there will not be one skerrick of a norton product in the registry!( but there is) __________________ There is ALWAYS a better way to do things.

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05-07-08, 11:15 PM	#20 (permalink)
Godzilla Killer HKS GTR iTrader: (6) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,356 Spent time on board: 1 Month, 1 Week, 4 Days and 22:00:31	Yeah my moneys on ram and then format and install. My lappy's been playing up did a format and reinstall for nothing. Its got to be the ram, should have looked at that first. Nortons is the best way to slow the hell out of a lappy.

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