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New license areas for satellite service
* By David Knox on March 18, 2010
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Three new commercial television license areas will be formed with the establishment of the government’s intended new satellite TV service to remote areas:
-Northern Australia – encompassing the Northern Territory and Queensland
-South Eastern Australia – encompassing the Australian Capital Territory, New South Wales, South Australia, Tasmania and Victoria
-Western Australia.
Senator Stephen Conroy introduced legislation into Parliament today to assist viewers in remote digital blackspots, as part of the switch from analogue television. The satellite system, estimated at $40m a year, was announced in January.
“The Bill will help broadcasters provide the same number of digital television services to all Australians wherever they live, whether they access television through terrestrial transmission or via satellite,” Senator Conroy said.
“The legislation also requires commercial broadcasters to provide all local news and information programs to the satellite service licensee, and will ensure that viewers who rely on satellite are able to access their local news as soon as possible after bulletins commence on the terrestrial channel.”
The Government will refer the legislation to the Senate Environment, Communications and the Arts Committee.
A subsidy was also flagged in January for ‘eligible households,’ estimated at 247,000, towards the installation of domestic satellite dishes.
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Broadcasting Legislation Amendment (Digital Television) Bill 2010
See the complete speech in Hansard;
Last edited by grumblebum; 19-03-10 at 12:59 AM.
Looks like another conroy f**k up if the license areas don't correspond to the football codes.
enf (23-03-10)
Hansard, Thursday, 18 March 2010 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
A real shot in the arm for those of us who depend on Satellite for TV.~The bill also introduces measures to allow all commercial free-to-air digital television services, including digital multi-channels such as GO!, 7TWO and ONE HD, to be provided to Australians no matter where they live. Currently, legislation does not allow commercial broadcasters to provide the full range of digital television services in a small number of licence areas where historically there were fewer than three commercial broadcasters. The bill amends the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 to allow commercial broadcasters in regional South Australia, Griffith and Broken Hill to apply for a third, digital-only commercial licence.
This means that broadcasting licensees in such ‘underserved’ areas may have the same opportunity as other regional and metropolitan broadcasting licensees to provide a full suite of digital television services in their licence area.
Further, in recognition of the special circumstances of terrestrial broadcasters operating in these smaller markets, the amendments permit these broadcasters to provide all of their digital services in standard definition format only. These broadcasters will still have the option to provide high-definition multi-channels but they will not be required to do so.
Ain't that the truth. I expect my politicians to be largely incompetent but this tool Conroy brings new meaning to the words 'Complete Bozo' (my apologies to any intelligent clowns named Bozo out there). You can just about guarantee that the South east region will have its channels uplinked from Sydney, so sit back and watch the screaming from Vic, SA and Tassie rural viewers. The MPs for the affected regions will get more phone calls, emails and abuse than they've dreamed of in their wildest nightmaresOriginally Posted by poiuytrewq
Last edited by evilbrian; 19-03-10 at 04:51 PM. Reason: embellishment
Kind of happy it doesnt
Hopefully give me AFL out of the NT in Qld at a decent time
All I can say is I will believe it when I see it, until then I am not holding my breath
enf (23-03-10)
New sat service
I'm with you Black Duck. Anything (I mean anything) is better than whats currently on offer with Aurora. Sure the proposed new service is not the perfect solution in terms of alignment of the footy codes but hopefully multi channeling will take care of the rights in the non AFL areas and in the AFL areas which have been placed into the eastern/northern footprint (and vice versa with NRL)Hansard, Thursday, 18 March 2010 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
A real shot in the arm for those of us who depend on Satellite for TV.
In relation to news, currently living in remote NT, I get a Brisbane based news on SC seven and a mix of Bris and Darwin news on Imparja. This roughly equates to what is being proposed under the new service. Anyhow not sure how critical local news is these days with the internet and other media freely available.
Give Conroy at least some credit for biting the bullet on a 'universal service' arrangement for us in the bush however on the flip side we need to exercise a little restraint until the thing actually materialises.
Sport or HD transmissions are not the end all/be all of the Digital FTA satelitte proposal.
Sorry but STUFF the Footy Codes, its only on a few hours a week for 6 months of the year and there are more who DONT watch it than there are that do !!!
FIRSTLY, lets get ALL the channels available in SD as there are many people with STB's ready to get the reception NOW if its on C1/D3.
By this I mean channels that are currently HD on FTA terrestial, are shown in SD via the satelitte.
I have 3 Humax's and I really dont want to by another STB for HD channels.
Years ago the VFL came up into NSW in a line literaly from Bateman Bay thru Wagga and those southern towns across to Mildura but not above there as that was League territory.
Once the system is up and running, then we can look at who see what and that will be up to the broadcasters and the sporting bodies and they will go along with the customer base.
Let's concentrate on getting this working NOW.
To the Technophile this is sacreligous but to the bloke in the street who doesnt know a Q-cam from a Hyberbolic Hypotonuws, just wants to watch his/her TV.
The next question is, how is it going to operate, how do you get authorised, with what (Smart Card ?) from who, for how long and at what cost (card/Authorisation/Time) excluding the STB's?
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Too true Gordon, There's some mob with a web site where you can vote to keep sport on FTA TV, There's no site where you can go and say you want sport put on Pay TV where god intended it to be.
4 Humax's here and a normal aspect ratio 68cm CRT TV set.
Anyone who can afford to have a wide screen LCD, Plasma, Projection power hungry monstrosity in their lounge room can afford Pay TV.
I can't see any government, especially this one, allowing free access to the signal without a card
I doubt that authorisation to receive the signal will be harder than to receive Aurora is now, but time will tell.
BD, the whole stupid thing is if you and I get authorised as we are definately in 'No Mans land', we can simply pick up the STB and a dish, mount it on the Malvern Star and so long as we can pedal power, we ahould be able to go 'walkabout' and watch our 'Home' area any where in OZ.
I dont care if Sport is on FTA or PayTV or Internet, I simply dont see why it should be a 'Speed Bump' delaying the introduction of FTA via Satelitte.
There are 168 hours in a 7 day week so even if someone watches sport 4 hours a day over 7 days, thats only 28 hours (1/5th) so why should that 1/5th be a dominating factor.
There are ways to skin this cat if a little thought is given and Lateral thinking applied to give the sport nut their Code 'FIX'!
MANY households will need more than ONE stb just as they do now with FTA Digital on TV's with no digital tuner.
Think about it !!
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One question nobody has answered yet though - is there enough space on D1 and/or D3 to cover all these timeshifted channels?
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You are correct gordon.......... this means now alot of consumers will have to go out and buy more technology for their day to day living. It will introduce and service they have to pay for....... being the setup of the equipment. However though the concept has been grasped and taken on board by most other countries...... I was in Canada last year and locally their pay is through Rodgers and Bell. It is mostly delivered through cable though you can receive it via satellite. It includes the country's free services as well, a local I spoke to there who was born and bred in that city had no idea that he could also receive his free services via a digital terrestrial service. I spoke to a few other people and they al said the same thing. Installers said in a city of somethingteen million only a handful of people use it. Most receive their TV/Sub TV via cable with a phone internet package or via satellite. The hack dishnet from the states as they are in the footprint. I believe we are heading down the same path. We are virtually the only country left that does heavily utilize satellite coverage.
2011.........looking better for the Cows!!!!!!!!
I thought after that last post that maybe in time, those who want to watch certain sporting events OUTSIDE of their home area, say a transplanted Collingwood supporter who resides in the Central West of NSW where little AFL is shown, could they because there will be a card used to authorise the service, pay a fee to see it just as if they would if they went to see the match live??
A season access to those matches.
There was talk of having a 'Pay for View' for the Terriestial 'FreeView' channels, so why not on satelitte too?
Metrop viewers think everything they have is available 'Everywhere', see Oceanboy's postings, Many Rural town residents are no better informed and many realy Rural viewers
are as equaly in the dark.
Yesterday I asked some friends who are on a farm a couple of K's from me who recently have been able to receive Digital reception and I asked did they have HD or SD only TV or STB.
I was met with a blank stare and they said they didnt know and they didnt even know what channels they received, ie OneHD or GO!!.
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New Sat Service
I recently purchased a 50" plasma (1366 x 720 res) on special at Harvey Normans for just under a grand. I don't consider myself to be flush with money although I do have pay TV as we spend a lot of time at home with a daughter who has a disability. We also live remotely and have previoulsy already forked out for satellite FTA under Aurora.
The 1080i stuff on pay TV is about 10 times better than watching SD on a CRT. By the way, my 68cm Sony CRT cost me $1200 several years ago. From my perspective, I don't want to remain in a technological backwater and I think the government has an obligation, in a country like Australia to give all of us access to the digital revolution. Sure, Aurora comes out fine on a 4:3 CRT but completely falls apart on a widescreen TV (about 9 out of every 10 sets sold in Australia are widescreen)
From my point of view the proposed new service is the best thing to hit the Australian TV scene in 20 years. The purchase of an additional HD reciever is a small price to pay for access to decent digital FTA tv.
On D3 there is more than enough space to provision all the channels expected. It's not going to be on D1 as that is already mostly utilised by SkyNZ/ABC/SBS+feeds+other data services.
As the person that attended the information briefing mentioned, it looks like the service could well be on D2 which is certainly an option but one that will cause many problems for existing Aurora users.
If it ends up on D2 then existing Aurora users won't be able to share the same dish with Austar/Foxtel etc and will either need to repoint an existing dish (which for most people will need an expensive site visit by a tech rather than just a card change) or an additional mount and LNB added to an existing dish or an entirely new dish added to the existing one for Austar etc.
Dave..did they actually say in the briefing that they were considering using D2, or did they simply say it was one of the options? For the reasons you specified, it seems an insane idea
Yah, I'd expect ABC/SBS on D1 to eventually encrypt (ABC Tech) after the new services are set up.
Remember we already have ABC1 & 2 and SBS 1 & 2 on C1/D3 now.
Part is available to Aurora cards, the other to Austar/Fox.
Now whether they can add the 'extras' that are available to the Terrestial viewer I dont know but it means in part your not adding 5 whole new services ie ABC/SBS/7Prime/9WIN/SC10 because ABC/SBS are already there.
Say they did move to D2, most Aurora old customers (Pre C1) have a seperate dish anyway (90+cm) because that was needed due to the lower signal power of the Vertical transmissions from B3 back then.
Some may have even bigger of up to 2m in what was then considered 'Fringe reception' areas.
A lot those old dishes are now starting to show their age along with the LNB's so its not unrealistic to consider updating in the future.
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