SMS module for DAS NX8 with wireless sensors

**Gumboot** · 16-10-09, 11:36 AM

Hi,

I have a NX8 with wireless sensors (PIR and reed). I know that wireless is not the best option but due to my circumstances it was the only option I could use.

Now I would like to self monitor and have a SMS or event email sent to my phone when the alarm is activated with what zone/sensor was activated. I know I can have the panel call my mobile and give me the siren tone to alert me that the alarm is going off but I would like more information etc about the activation.

I have spoken with the local security guys here who I purchased and installed the alarm but the informed me that they don't deal with much self monitoring stuff. They did tell me of a SMS module but did not go into detail. They also stated that there is a new module coming out that is web based and will allow remote programing, arming and notification when the alarm is activated but stated these module was still another 6 to 12 months away and that I should wait until a version 2 of it as to allow for most bugs to be fixed in the first version.

I looked into the SEB-25 SMS module but from what I gather it only gives details from wired sensors that are tripped by wiring that sensor in to the SMS module and as I have a completely wireless setup I am unable to wire these sensors into the SMS module.

Any ideas.

Thanks

**keef82** · 16-10-09, 04:34 PM

Should have used a bosh solution 16+ or similar, which have sms capability.
Don't know of anything for the NX to accommodate this.

Self monitoring is not a good idea

maybe just have the system set up as domestic dial, better then nothing..

**Gumboot** · 16-10-09, 09:32 PM

Hindsight is a great thing. I bought this system some two years ago and have had it monitored since. I am now looking to get away from monitoring it and do it myself.

I guess the domestic dialing is my next best option. Set for alarm only and I should be right.

Anyone heard of this so called new module coming that does web based monitoring?

**keef82** · 17-10-09, 09:45 AM

can i ask, what's wrong with the back to base monitoring ?
Be serious here, if you press a panic alarm, or a duress code.

What good is an SMS message?

What are you going to do with the SMS if your no where near your place?

**Gumboot** · 17-10-09, 10:55 AM

Without giving too much away about myself due to this being a public forum but I work for the "company" that gets called to attend the alarm alongwith the security company. So while I may not be around I can soon get someone who is to attend. This is why I would like more information from the alarm as to what area is activated.

Nothing against security companies but in the 2 years that I have had the system installed I have had 3 activations, all false ( when the alarm was first installed and was being tweaked as such) only twice did they turn up and three times did my friends turn up after I contacted them and they beat them there all times. Since I was paying about $50 a month I feel this money ($1200) would be better spent.

**No Brainer** · 17-10-09, 06:03 PM

Take a lookt at this:-

It may be the sort of thing you are looking for

**secure** · 17-10-09, 10:45 PM

Attached is a link to the SMS module manual that DAS sell. It's made by Rhino. I haven't used it.

**Gumboot** · 17-10-09, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by No Brainer

Take a lookt at this:-

It may be the sort of thing you are looking for

Looking at this right now. Seems like what I am after. Will have to see if it can link with my wireless like I would like. Any idea of a price for this?

Originally Posted by secure

Attached is a link to the SMS module manual that DAS sell. It's made by Rhino. I haven't used it.

Thanks. This also looks like it will do the job for me. Any idea of a price of this also? Found one price for it being around $460 mark so it is not to expensive. If it also had a GSM dialer then it would be great. But beggars can't be chooses. I guess I could always get a PSTN to GSM converter from ebay and use.

Thanks again.

**intelliGEORGE** · 18-10-09, 08:34 AM

The SMS Interface board is what you need, it actually sits in between the panel and PSTN line and will convert the contact ID to SMS. Because it converts CID to SMS your wireless zones won't be a problem.

If you decide to use the Rhino product, please use the Aux outputs on the alarm panel to power the device as this method will ensure you have battery backup in the event of AC loss. I have come across many DIY setups only to find the module connected to a 12vdc plug pack, so when there is a power fault on site the alarm panel becomes useles.

Good luck with it, let us know what you end up using.

**keef82** · 18-10-09, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by Gumboot

Without giving too much away about myself due to this being a public forum but I work for the "company" that gets called to attend the alarm alongwith the security company. So while I may not be around I can soon get someone who is to attend. This is why I would like more information from the alarm as to what area is activated.

Nothing against security companies but in the 2 years that I have had the system installed I have had 3 activations, all false ( when the alarm was first installed and was being tweaked as such) only twice did they turn up and three times did my friends turn up after I contacted them and they beat them there all times. Since I was paying about $50 a month I feel this money ($1200) would be better spent.

Yeah, $50 a month seems very high for a standard dialler monitored account, Patrols should attend within 30 minutes, or no pay, simple

If i get a single activation, i personally chose to ignore it, there are plenty of detectors, panel will send multi break alarms. If i get a Multiple, i will come and check the alarm myself, or send a patrol.

I took it upon myself to find a local patrol company, that only services the area i live in, they are my first patrol preference, then the CMS can use their people.

I would not be happy with an SMS module for a few reasons, firstly SMS are not a guaranteed service, the sms may or may not come, secondly, i like to speak to someone to interrogate them, ask what EXACTLY is coming through, also, what happens when you press your panic alarm / duress / medical alarm, you get the sms? not very logical..

IF this is the way you want to proceed, so be it.
But i would try to screw down your monitoring company, tell them you have had a competitor quote 1/2 their price, if they wont budge, myself or anyone on this forum can no doubt put you onto someone that can assist.

Good luck !

**kiwitech** · 19-10-09, 12:06 PM

Gumboot get your local installer to speak to DAS about the NX540. It is the Operator II, which is a full voice dialler, it will deliver voice message's to your phone in real time, you can also use it for system status arm/disarm and output control. SMS is no good to you if the SMS arrives a day after the event.

**Gumboot** · 19-10-09, 03:42 PM

Kiwitech,

sounds like the go. I am currently in the middle of a move so will look into it once moved.

**SCT** · 19-10-09, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by keef82

If i get a single activation, i personally chose to ignore it, there are plenty of detectors, panel will send multi break alarms. If i get a Multiple, i will come and check the alarm myself, or send a patrol.

From personal experience, I know that many control rooms specify that you program panels not to send multibreak alarms (multiples from any one zone) as runaway zones annoy the shite out of operators and cost the client heaps in phone bills.

**keef82** · 19-10-09, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by SCT

From personal experience, I know that many control rooms specify that you program panels not to send multibreak alarms (multiples from any one zone) as runaway zones annoy the shite out of operators and cost the client heaps in phone bills.

Yeah, this is also true, however, when on a GPRS device, (im on emizon) i dont care lol.

Most control rooms can place an account / zone in runaway to stop it flooding the screens

**Gumboot** · 24-10-09, 11:36 PM

Ok, Just moved into my new house in a new town and have not heard a word back from the guy I deal with in my previous town. Can anyone help me out with a price for the NX540 Operator II module?

Also I would prefer a GSM dialer instead of the PSTN. Any ideas on this?

Thanks