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    Default Das dl250

    Hi,

    I have recently moved into a house that has a DAS DL250 security system installed. The previous owners did not know any of the codes to the system. I have found some installation manuals on the net with some information about programming the system via the key pad (), but was interested to hear if anyone has any experience changing the master code and user codes of such a system. I am reluctant to do so as I'm concerned I may trigger the alarm.

    Additionally I have ADSL and not getting great bandwidth and suspect that the phone line may be in series with the alarm system. I'd like to be able to perform an isolation test, but am not sure if I can open the control unit box without setting off an alarm (I have the keys).

    Thanks in advance.



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    Unless you know the current master code or the program code, you won't be changing any user codes. DL250's can't be defaulted either thus the only solution in that case would be to replace the EPROM at U7 and hope that you can actually still get one. Although these were a fantastic panel in their day, they went out of production 13 years ago.

    If you do have the master code, changing the user codes is quite a simple process. The DL250 holds 15 user codes plus a seperate program code. Changing codes is as follows and assumes your master code is 1234

    For user 1 (master code): change from 1234 to 2580
    *1# 1234 *1# 2580 *1#

    User 2 from what ever it is now to 4321 (assuming master is 1234)

    *2# 1234 *2# 4321 *2#

    Deleting codes (user 2 assuming master is 1234)

    *2# 1234 *2# 1234 *2#

    Codes can also be programmed through installer programming but unless you're familiar with binary and comfortable programming alarm systems, I'd avoid it and leave that one to the professionals.

    Regarding your ADSL situation, it's possible that the alarm system is connected via a mode 3 connection to your phone system thus causing the issue. If so, you can unplug the phone lead from the phone socket (not the socket on the PCB) and it should clear the problem. The other possibility with this however is that the pins in the 611 socket no longer spring back which means you'll have no phones or ADSL if you unplug the lead. Typically, a licenced cabler is required to install a central splitter to sort the problem out properly.
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    Thanks for the reply, Drift, much appreciated. Just a few more questions.

    You mentioned installer programming. I take it this also requires the master code? I'm a software engineer so if this was an option I would maybe attempt to program the control unit via the key pad, although from what I've read it seems as if it would be a rather tedious task. If I can't do this, what are my options for deactivating the system altogether (i.e. is it just a matter of powering down the AC power pack & removing the battery)?

    Just to clarify, can I safely open the control units box without setting off some kind of tamper device whilst the system is not armed?

    Cheers.

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    If the system has been installed in accordance with AS/NZ2201.1 then opening the box will set the system off. At the very least, the keypad will start beeping if the system's not armed.

    Installer programming requires the program code. It's only purpose is to access installation program mode. By default the code is 9713. Entering the program code will get you straight into program mode and should take you to location 000. The value in that program location will be displayed via the zone lights in binary and the ready & AC lights will extinguish. Exit program mode by entering 930#.

    Binary values:
    1 = 1
    2 = 2
    3 = 4
    4 = 8

    If you see a value of 15 (or 1, 2, 3 & 4 displayed) then local program lockout has been enabled which means you're not getting anywhere. There was also one version of firmware that misbehaved when entering program mode and required a power cycle to reset. The best way to avoid the issue is enter your program code quickly followed by ####.

    Programming codes isn't that hard a task from installer programming but one wrong key press could see the system doing very odd things.

    Changing codes from installer programming as follows and assumes your program code is 9713.

    User 1 - locations 000-003
    User 2 - locations 004-007
    etc etc...

    Change user 1 to 2580 from system standby:

    9713#### 0# 2*# 5*# 8*# 0*# 930#

    User 2 to 4321 from standby

    9713#### 004# 4*# 3*# 2*# 1*# 930#

    Deleting user 2 from standby assuming master is 2580

    9713#### 004# 2*# 5*# 8*# 0*# 930#





    If worst comes to worst, the system can be deactivated by unplugging the mains & the battery.

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    Default DL250 entry time codes

    Hi, I purchased a property 2 years ago which has this alarm installed. I understand it is old and no longer "state of the art" however it works just fine. I have downloaded the manuals which show how to change some of the codes but not much more.
    What I want to do is extend the entry time of one of the zones to allow access with time enough to disarm the alarm. I have 2 zones, one allows entry time while the other alarms immediately. I want them both to allow entry time so I can use either the front or back doors.

    Hope you can help. Thanks

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    In order to do anything but change the user codes on this panel, you require the installer code. Without that, you're unable to make any changes.

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    Hi Drift,

    I saw some of your post about DAS DL alarm system back in 2010.



    I am sure you can provide me some suggestions and help me out.

    I have DL150 installed in my house. But recently I cancelled my telephone line service and I lost the power of phone line/socket.

    The "Phone line monitor" function has been enabled. And I am getting Beep Beep sound from keypad from time to time.

    I had a search on internet. I need to change location "137" - phone line monitor code from "1" - delay keypad indicating to "0" disable.

    I tried on my alarm keypad by press 9713####137#0*#930#. But immediately after 9713 LED Zone "5" flashes which I assume the local programming lockout has been enable.

    Is there anyway i can get out of this? I tried to quickly press 9713#### but still no luck.

    Any hint will be much appreciated!

    CHeers mate!


    Daniel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drift View Post
    In order to do anything but change the user codes on this panel, you require the installer code. Without that, you're unable to make any changes.
    Hi Drift,

    I saw some of your post about DAS DL alarm system back in 2010.



    I am sure you can provide me some suggestions and help me out.

    I have DL150 installed in my house. But recently I cancelled my telephone line service and I lost the power of phone line/socket.

    The "Phone line monitor" function has been enabled. And I am getting Beep Beep sound from keypad from time to time.

    I had a search on internet. I need to change location "137" - phone line monitor code from "1" - delay keypad indicating to "0" disable.

    I tried on my alarm keypad by press 9713####137#0*#930#. But immediately after 9713 LED Zone "5" flashes which I assume the local programming lockout has been enable.

    Is there anyway i can get out of this? I tried to quickly press 9713#### but still no luck.

    Any hint will be much appreciated!

    CHeers mate!


    Daniel

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    If you're getting any zone other than 1,2,3,4 display after entering the installer code then the code you're using isn't the installer code. When you enter programming with these panels, the first thing to be displayed is the first digit of user 1s code displayed in binary and nothing will flash. Local programming lockout will still enable you to get into program mode but will display all locations as a value of 15 and you won't have the ability to change anything.

    If you don't have the program code, you won't be able to change anything. There is no way to default these panels unless you have a programmer or a defaulted eprom, both of which are now rare as hens teeth given the DLs came to an end in 1997.

    Time for an upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drift View Post
    There is no way to default these panels unless you have a programmer or a defaulted eprom, both of which are now rare as hens teeth given the DLs came to an end in 1997.
    I still have 3 smart hens teeth on the shelf. Last time i used one was about 6 months ago. The customer didn't want to upgrade his pride and joy and could not remember what his codes were.

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    My last one kicked the bucket a few months back and I'm not really bothered by it. I like the DL panels but they've had their day. I wouldn't trust one to be reliable enough to protect my own let alone a customers premises these days.

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    Thanks for the reply. It seems that "9713" isn't the "go to program" code.

    I will have a try to see if someone can fix it within $100.

    Otherwise like you said it's time for an upgrade.




    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Qi View Post
    Hi Drift,

    I saw some of your post about DAS DL alarm system back in 2010.



    I am sure you can provide me some suggestions and help me out.

    I have DL150 installed in my house. But recently I cancelled my telephone line service and I lost the power of phone line/socket.

    The "Phone line monitor" function has been enabled. And I am getting Beep Beep sound from keypad from time to time.

    I had a search on internet. I need to change location "137" - phone line monitor code from "1" - delay keypad indicating to "0" disable.

    I tried on my alarm keypad by press 9713####137#0*#930#. But immediately after 9713 LED Zone "5" flashes which I assume the local programming lockout has been enable.

    Is there anyway i can get out of this? I tried to quickly press 9713#### but still no luck.

    Any hint will be much appreciated!

    CHeers mate!


    Daniel

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