Thread: Honeywell Ademco vista 12 control panel and PIR

Originally Posted by colincolin30

Hi,

Installing a new alarm but the wiring instructions/documentation are a little on the poor side.

The terminals on the Bosch Blueline Gen 2 PIR (ISC-BPR2-W12)are


- + NC NC T T


The minus ( black) and plus ( red) make sense/obvious, which pinouts do i connect for the alarms ( yellow and green)data lines?
regards
Colin

nothing poor or hard about those markings. Very straight forward.

Don't forget the capacitor too. It won't work otherwise.

Thank you , its nice to have advice from people who know.

There is no mention of putting any capacitor across the terminals of the PIR .

Now you have me worried.

Back in the dim dark ages I do not recall seeing people install caps across terminals??????????????


regards
Colin

Nah, only taking the piss just as others appear to be doing.

You do require an EOL resistor though. Typically your wiring would be as follows

+ (RED) - (BLACK) NC (Yellow/White) NC (Resistor) T (Resistor) T (Green/Blue)

It doesn't matter what terminals you connect the yellow & green too so long as there's one each to an NC and a T. Your EOL resistor should occupy the remaining terminals.

In honesty though, if you're not able to work out how to wire a basic and common security device (there's no data there ), it may be better leaving it to some one who knows. If you're finding wiring a PIR difficult, how are you going to cope with wiring the panel and programming it?

Thanks Drift,

Hooking up to the control panel and programming is well documented and I understand what is required.

The PIR document was not clear.
I will set up a PIR with a short length of cable to test ensure it works prior to throwing the cables across the rafters.

I have learn't in life to have a go at everything and once learn't you retain for the rest of your life.
Thanks
Colin

Colin,

The Bosch PIRs all come with documentation replete with diagrams and pretty pictures.

Not sure which bit was unclear but I'd urge you to tread carefully here. A false sense of security is worse than no security. At least with no security, there are no surprises.

I have the PIR worked out and the 3 PIR's wired to the control panel.

I have been told to disconnect the + on the control panel while pressing #&* and apply power then enter the id number. 16
When I tried this there is no power to the control panel.

Leaving the + connected i at least have power to the control panel LCD and buttons lights come the LCD shows a two rows of squares , plus the speaker makes a sound and the LCD "turns off" again.
If i then enter 16 I get do response from the LCD panel.

Any suggestions or "cheap sheets" to set up the Honeywell vista 12a control panel ?

thanks
Colin

Sorrry, Col. You're in over your head mate.

I do not give up that easy!! I have an electronics background.

Helpful advice would be appreciated.

Could someone at least confirm either disconnect + rail on the control panel

or continue on with the way I was working?

You may need to read the last post.

thanks
Colin

Originally Posted by colincolin30

I do not give up that easy!! I have an electronics background.
Helpful advice would be appreciated.
thanks
Colin

I don't say this to be cruel,but a smart person would know their limitations. There is no shame in getting professional help because this project is beyond your capabilities. You are struggling with the basics so do yourself a favour and get pro in to get you over the hurdles.
Failing that, I think I still have a DSR module and keyswitch that might be more suitable to your skillset.

Originally Posted by colincolin30

I have the PIR worked out and the 3 PIR's wired to the control panel.

I have been told to disconnect the + on the control panel while pressing #&* and apply power then enter the id number. 16
When I tried this there is no power to the control panel.

Leaving the + connected i at least have power to the control panel LCD and buttons lights come the LCD shows a two rows of squares , plus the speaker makes a sound and the LCD "turns off" again.
If i then enter 16 I get do response from the LCD panel.

Any suggestions or "cheap sheets" to set up the Honeywell vista 12a control panel ?

thanks
Colin

I think you will find that it should be 1 + 3 that you hold down. Default address is 31 and needs to be changed to 16.

Originally Posted by bss904

Failing that, I think I still have a DSR module and keyswitch that might be more suitable to your skillset.

I'll call your DSR module and keyswitch, and raise you a Ledlux LED3 module (circa 1975).

I must have been mistaken, I thought Aushtech forums where about help not "having a go at someone".
The unit i am installing is a Honeywell vista12a.

If anyone can provide some sound advice I am more then happy to listen.

With the senseable tips and hints given I have been able to advance the installation.

regards
colin

Originally Posted by alarmman

I'll call your DSR module and keyswitch, and raise you a Ledlux LED3 module (circa 1975).

ok, i will raise the stakes to a DK85 keypad to control the DSR module. Hopefully this is enough so I don't have to drag out the big guns, a CEU8.

Originally Posted by bss904

ok, i will raise the stakes to a DK85 keypad to control the DSR module. Hopefully this is enough so I don't have to drag out the big guns, a CEU8.

i match your CEU8 and will raise with E38 with a franklin dailler. i using it as a door stopper at the moment.