bss904

Sanity, not hard of hearing at all. You have obviously placed your post up whilst i was preparing mine. I do not have a crystal ball or esp and cannot see that you had said something until after mine was sent.
I would of thought that i was also entitled to my opinion regarding his statement as i also have a tiny bit of knowledge in this area as well. I at no point told him he had to have btb monitoring.

keef82

Thanks for removing my post.
Rude!!

intelliGEORGE

Seems like others aren't entitled to OPINIONS, considering keef82 and bss904 both gave theirs. Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Is this an open forum or communist China? Just because you happen to share the same OPINION as the person who started the thread doesn't give you the right to mute others. I believe what bss904 raised was valid, in a society where someone could be rotting away in their home due to a broken hip could have been easily avoided with a monitored alarm with medical functions enabled.


So leave the replies to people who know what they are talking about. Instead of removing them because YOU don't agree with them.

Sanity

Thanks for ignoring mine.
Rude!!

Sanity

As you are a previously banned member ( multiple times ) who shouldnt even be here , I would suggest sitting back and shutting up. Otherwise I will delete your account. I am not going to waste my time arguing with someone that should be banned for life.

Tecom Master

Cat 5 - Bad idea, breaks off in screw terminals, insufficient cross sectional area to power devices, does no meet the australian standard.
krone blocks with stranded cable - bad idea.

Sanity

Whether I have the same opinion as the original poster has nothing to do with it. Taking the thread off topic does , rudeness does and there was no need at all for the thread to take the direction it did. In general these are things that have slowly diminished in here and its usually no longer similar to an upper class polo club like it used to be.

I hate to give you the news , but I do have the right to mute others as does every staff member on the site. If they dont follow directives from staff , they will lose access to the thread.

I made a reasonable request which was ignored. The topic is cat5 for alarm cabling. So lets now go back to post 8 , and hopefully pickup where the topic finished up. Should you wish to open your own thread on the merits of monitoring , please feel free to do so. But as I dont tell you how to install alarms , so please dont try and tell me how to moderate.

oceanboy

To the origianl poster, It is even better to use Cat3 cable, as you don't need all the extra conductors in Cat5. That really fine "door bell" figure 8 is good too. Both will save you money. Go for it son, it's dead easy.

tristen

Simply put, it is bad practice to use single-strand cable for security cabling as a single strand can and does sometimes break due to incorrect installation practice or simply by accident.
Multi-core cable should be used and is the norm in the security cabling industry for what I would have thought are obvious reasons. After all, the object of the exercise is security. Do it right !

gavpk

Im sure cat5 cable comes as solid (single strand) and multi strand

urban_s0ulja

ur right mate

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watchdog

that wouldn't be cat 5 it will be lan cable

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gavpk

I think they're the same thing mate, unshielded twisted pair, the only thing
being that you use different rj45 plugs to terminate

intelliGEORGE

ACMA - SAC security

Cables compliant with the standards plain and simple.

Chimp

IntelliGeorge you still havent answered the original question, come on, do you think it is ok to run CAT5 to all of the OP's detection devices and then terminate it a Krone Block and take it back to the panel after that. Or do you think thid is a completely ****ing retarded idea??

LOL

rob916

It will probably ok BUT it is not the correct way to do it, it leaves the possibility at some time to give you trouble( if there are no terminations inline between pir and panel, there is no minimal opportunity for failure).
Think that if something goes wrong you are more than likely NOT covered by home insurance( pretty unlikely but very valid).
If you do it right the first time you will more than likely never have to touch it again. It may not be as neat and as easily accessible but it is the legally required way. They have standards for a reason and LOTS of money and research has gone into this.

I would listen to these guys here, they do it for a job, everyday.
They are trying to help as you asked and it is probably not so good to bag parts of their industry.
Your choice in the end.

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intelliGEORGE

Like Rob said, at the end of the day it's his decision what he wants to do, but it is bad practice as the purpose of the exercise is to secure his premises.

kiwitech

Everyone else seem's to of had a say so I will add my opinion.

LAN cable pairs are individually shielded. CAT5 (UTP) is not shielded and can be either solid core or stranded. LAN cable and CAT5 are not the same thing.

Security technician's use stranded security cable for a good reason. Also the less joins the less future problems. What cable you use for your alarm system is your choice. But you wont be able to say you weren't warned by those in the know in here.

kiwitech

Rob...the only thing that you say that makes sense is VISTA SUX.

rob916

Do Kiwi's not speak English?

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