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    Default random pc freezes

    having a semi strange issue with my main system

    AMD fx-8150
    8gb ram
    gb-970A-D3

    the system randomly hangs depending on what im doing, it can be once a day or upto 5.
    the system seems to do it more regularly when im installing/updating games on steam, but not when playing

    also randomly when uploading files to the internet such as youtube, soundcloud or my vps.

    but other times such as when using adobe products, audition, premier pro or after affects its fine

    have run seatools etc over all my hdd`s and all pass
    have run memtest over the ram and got a fail, so replaced the ram now passes
    have replaced mobo as a i had a spare of the same model and revision
    full virus scan, malware, spyware etc including sfc / scannow


    short of replacing the cpu, is there anything else i can try ?
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    Graphics cards/drivers are a common cause.

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    also check the 12v psu listing in the bios

    run sfc /scannow

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    Are you sure it isn't heat related? Is the Heatsink properly attached to the CPU?. What happens if you leave the covers off? PSU is also another potential problem, is it powerful enough to handle the strain? Could be failing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dai View Post
    also check the 12v psu listing in the bios

    run sfc /scannow
    didnt think of sussing the bios, although it has had a reset to stock a few times, any particular option i should be looking for ?


    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    Graphics cards/drivers are a common cause.
    have done a lot of reinstalling of drivers etc in the past

    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Are you sure it isn't heat related? Is the Heatsink properly attached to the CPU?. What happens if you leave the covers off? PSU is also another potential problem, is it powerful enough to handle the strain? Could be failing.
    am 100% positive its not heat, i have coretemp running and max it will hit is around 58c
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    is it keeping the correct time also check the voltage of the bios battery in the bios,batteries are cheap it may pay to put a new one in

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    what windoz is it?
    can you do a refresh, sounds like your looking for anything but the obvious
    format time lol
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    Mostly, there is NO GOOD REASON to reformat in order to solve computer problems.

    Yes, I realise that it sometimes cures a problem, but why not attempt to find the actual cause instead of resorting to this brute-force tactic?

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    Also, if it's not an operating system issue, reformatting will not solve the issue.

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    i agree with the above 2 posts,i do not think a format will solve anything

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    just to keep the askers happy
    wondows 10.1 pro dualboot with linux

    refresh is out of the question did one in feb this year, as for format wont be done until i get a new external hdd later this year when i do a backup to replace all my hdd`s

    on to the others

    mobo battery is fine
    clock is fine give or take a few micro seconds, synced to my isps ntp
    bios clock is fine also, as is all bios settings seem fine (have even done a reset, and tried optimized rather than custom)

    it is a hardware issue as it happens in linux now and then, just not as often as windows

    have dumped the multi meter over the psu and all is good there, voltages are as they should be

    one of my tech mates looked at it last night, and even he is stumped
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorolavkg View Post
    have dumped the multi meter over the psu and all is good there, voltages are as they should be
    A multimeter won't show noise or brief glitches on the power supply rails. I'd beg / borrow / buy another PSU - even if you buy a cheap and nasty PSU for testing, it would prove the point.

    Is the computer booting from an SSD? I recently fixed a weird intermittent freezing problem with an Intel SSD drive by turning off the SATA "Link Power Management" (LPM) feature. The fault never showed up when running a hard drive test, because the intense bus activity prevented LPM from kicking in during the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shred View Post
    A multimeter won't show noise or brief glitches on the power supply rails. I'd beg / borrow / buy another PSU - even if you buy a cheap and nasty PSU for testing, it would prove the point.

    Is the computer booting from an SSD? I recently fixed a weird intermittent freezing problem with an Intel SSD drive by turning off the SATA "Link Power Management" (LPM) feature. The fault never showed up when running a hard drive test, because the intense bus activity prevented LPM from kicking in during the test.
    These are all good points to check.

    Also check electrolytic capacitors on the main-board. I have seen numerous similar problems caused by leaky electrolytic capacitors in areas other than the PSU.

    Check ram by substitution with known good modules.

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    sorry for delay in getting back so to follow up

    new psu installed seasonic 750w 80plus gold

    not booting from ssd

    cant see any leaking caps on the mobo

    have been messing with the bios and setting values manually and changing some voltages with the first available +/- value and got mixed results from more to less freezing
    so i am really beginning to think its either the cpu or mobo

    if anyone can recommend some other manual settings feel free to post
    here is a dump from CPU-z

    my last edit to the bios was setting all the memory timings manually as it was detecting my ram as 1333, so had to set the profile to 1600 oddly this had better results than manually
    setting it to x8 (now i know this is no real biggy as by default it sets to 1333, but can run @ 1600)

    so just to reclarify everything as i noticed i was slack in my initial post

    MOBO GB GA-970A-d3 revision 1.3 (just did a reflash of the bios as well(wondering if im safe to update it to the newest 3.0))
    RAM G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR3-1337) - XMP 1.2 - P/N: F3-12800CL10-8GBXL
    CPU AMD FX-8150 8core currently running at 3599.81 MHz
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    If you have a spare or new hard drive try a fresh windows install on that hard drive. That way you can rule out a hard drive problem completely.


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    Have you done a memtest for check for bad ram? Ram is the most common problem ive seen for this issue

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    sorry for the delay in reply, been side tracked

    Quote Originally Posted by deanfourie View Post
    Have you done a memtest for check for bad ram? Ram is the most common problem ive seen for this issue
    see my original post

    Quote Originally Posted by dvst8m View Post
    If you have a spare or new hard drive try a fresh windows install on that hard drive. That way you can rule out a hard drive problem completely.
    thats my next plan, will be picking up a new one over the next week and trying again, thankfully i have not installed everything again after the last clean install.
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