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    Members, it is my unenvious task to advise you that none of you will be going back in time. Please read attached and watch the video clip for an explanation, this includes you too Trash
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    You're working my side of the street allover

    But you will be happy to know that people from the past can choose to send you a message.
    Feel free to send somebody in the future a message too.
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    Everything I read on this forum is a message from someone in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allover View Post
    Members, it is my unenvious task to advise you that none of you will be going back in time.
    John Titor will be unhappy about that....
    Oh wait, he needed to get back to the future.

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    It's always an interesting concept. I've always maintained that we may observe the past but never actually travel there. All you need is a suitably fast ship and a bloody big set of binoculars........ We may also travel to the future but NEVER return to our origin, and, as has been oberved, we can only travel to the future at the same speed as we do currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny View Post
    Everything I read on this forum is a message from someone in the past.
    Or is that someone you just passed? Depends on how many m/sec your doing.

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    This doesn't mean that objects in space are drifting apart, but rather, the fabric of spacetime itself, in which objects are embedded, is expanding.
    Waitaminute, is he saying that time is REALLY getting shorter?

    I always though that. The speed at which I am getting older is accelerating
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    We may also travel to the future but NEVER return to our origin, and, as has been oberved, we can only travel to the future at the same speed as we do currently.
    Umm, no. If I'm travelling faster than you I'm moving into the future faster.
    Likewise if you're on top of a mountain and I'm on a beach, I'm travelling into the future quicker than you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trash View Post
    Umm, no. If I'm travelling faster than you I'm moving into the future faster.
    Likewise if you're on top of a mountain and I'm on a beach, I'm travelling into the future quicker than you are.
    I thought Muller implied that we are all travelling into the future at 1 second per second.

    Here it is, dammit he made a rule that is yet to proven correct or incorrect, making it a theory.
    In practical terms, Muller says that we couldn't travel into the future (except at our current rate of one second per second) because it simply doesn't exist yet, and going backwards would require an associated decrease in the amount of space – it is possible for the amount of space in the universe to decrease due to cataclysmic cosmic events like a black hole disappearing, but only on an immeasurably small scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trash View Post
    Umm, no. If I'm travelling faster than you I'm moving into the future faster.
    Likewise if you're on top of a mountain and I'm on a beach, I'm travelling into the future quicker than you are.
    ? if i am on a mountain, would not i be traveling faster than you on a beach at sea level, there fore going thru time faster???
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    No, you are only travelling through space faster. Time still remains constant. Which is why speed is measured in distance per unit of time.
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    There are two factors here and you're missing one of them.

    The first you both have correct, which is velocity. The faster you are traveling, the more time dilation you experience.
    But remember that the motion is relative. If you're on a mountain and I'm on the beach, we are not moving relative to each other, so there is no difference in how fast our clocks tick over. If you we in an aircraft moving at 1000kph, then you're clock would be ticking slower than mine.

    The other difference is time dilation due to gravity.
    If I'm further down the gravitational well than you, then my clock ticks slower than yours.
    Hence at the bottom of a very steep (infinite) gravitational well like a black hole, time stops.
    Looking back out at the rest of the universe, the entire future of the universe flashes past.

    So in theory everything that falls into a black hole doesn't reach the singularity until the end of the universe happens.
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