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    STARTING GRID
    0103 Sep 2017Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza


    POS NO DRIVER CAR TIME
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton MERCEDES 1:35.554
    2 18 Lance Stroll WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:37.032
    3 31 Esteban Ocon FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:37.719
    4 77 Valtteri Bottas MERCEDES 1:37.833
    5 7 Kimi Räikkönen FERRARI 1:37.987
    6 5 Sebastian Vettel FERRARI 1:38.064
    7 19 Felipe Massa WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:38.251
    8 2 Stoffel Vandoorne MCLAREN HONDA 1:39.157
    9 11 Sergio Perez FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:37.582
    10 26 Daniil Kvyat TORO ROSSO 1:38.245
    11 20 Kevin Magnussen HAAS FERRARI 1:40.489
    12 9 Marcus Ericsson SAUBER FERRARI 1:41.732
    13 94 Pascal Wehrlein SAUBER FERRARI 1:41.875
    14 33 Max Verstappen RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 1:36.702
    15 27 Nico Hulkenberg RENAULT 1:38.059
    16 55 Carlos Sainz TORO ROSSO 1:38.526
    17 3 Daniel Ricciardo RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 1:36.841
    18 30 Jolyon Palmer RENAULT 1:40.646
    19 14 Fernando Alonso MCLAREN HONDA 1:38.202
    20 8 Romain Grosjean HAAS FERRARI 1:43.355
    Note - penalised for use of additional power unit elements: Alonso 35 places, Ricciardo 20, Verstappen 20, Sainz 10, Hulkenberg 10, Palmer 15. Ricciardo penalised a further 5 places for an unscheduled gearbox change.
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    well it was actually quite an exciting race with Ricciardo starting 16th (Vandorne took a late 25 grid penalty that upped Daniel 1 place.)
    He then carved his way thru the field to fourth & on the tail of Vettel in third.
    Daniel also got the fastest lap & voted driver of the day.
    Also excellent drives by Ocon & Stroll.



    FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO HEINEKEN D'ITALIA 2017 - RACE RESULT

    01 03 Sep 2017 Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza



    Pos No Driver Car Laps Time/Retired Pts
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 53 132.312 25
    2 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 53 +4.471s 18
    3 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 53 +36.317s 15
    4 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 53 +40.335s 12
    5 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 53 +60.082s 10
    6 31 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 53 +71.528s 8
    7 18 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 53 +74.156s 6
    8 19 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 53 +74.834s 4
    9 11 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 53 +75.276s 2
    10 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 52 +1 lap 1
    11 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 52 +1 lap 0
    12 26 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 52 +1 lap 0
    13 27 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 52 +1 lap 0
    14 55 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 52 +1 lap 0
    15 8 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 52 +1 lap 0
    16 94 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 51 +2 laps 0
    17 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 50 DNF 0
    18 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 49 DNF 0
    NC 2 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 33 DNF 0
    NC 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 29 DNF 0



    Hamilton takes the lead of the championship by 3 points from Vettel.
    7 races remaining, could be a tight end to the season.

    2017 Driver Standings

    Pos Driver Nationality Car Pts
    1 GBR 238
    2 GER 235
    3 FIN 197
    4 AUS 144
    5 FIN 138
    6 NED 68
    7 MEX 58
    8 FRA 55
    9 ESP 36
    10 GER 34
    11 BRA 31
    12 CAN 24
    13 FRA 24
    14 DEN 11
    15 ESP 10
    16 GER 5
    17 RUS 4
    18 BEL 1
    19 GBR 0
    20 SWE 0
    21 ITA 0
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    I wonder what Ferrari think of Iceman
    Ricciardo starts in 16th position and still beats him in the race
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    Red Bull looking strong, Vettel jumped them in qually but hit the wall hard on the way, risk V reward.

    2017 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE AIRLINES SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX - QUALIFYING
    1517 Sep 2017Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore


    POS NO DRIVER CAR Q1 Q2 Q3 LAPS
    1 5 Sebastian Vettel FERRARI 1:43.336 1:40.529 1:39.491 19
    2 33 Max Verstappen RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 1:42.010 1:40.332 1:39.814 18
    3 3 Daniel Ricciardo RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 1:42.063 1:40.385 1:39.840 18
    4 7 Kimi Räikkönen FERRARI 1:43.328 1:40.525 1:40.069 18
    5 44 Lewis Hamilton MERCEDES 1:42.455 1:40.577 1:40.126 17
    6 77 Valtteri Bottas MERCEDES 1:43.137 1:41.409 1:40.810 16
    7 27 Nico Hulkenberg RENAULT 1:42.586 1:41.277 1:41.013 18
    8 14 Fernando Alonso MCLAREN HONDA 1:42.086 1:41.442 1:41.179 20
    9 2 Stoffel Vandoorne MCLAREN HONDA 1:42.222 1:41.227 1:41.398 19
    10 55 Carlos Sainz TORO ROSSO 1:42.176 1:41.826 1:42.056 20
    11 30 Jolyon Palmer RENAULT 1:42.472 1:42.107 12
    12 11 Sergio Perez FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:43.594 1:42.246 8
    13 26 Daniil Kvyat TORO ROSSO 1:42.544 1:42.338 14
    14 31 Esteban Ocon FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 1:43.626 1:42.760 11
    15 8 Romain Grosjean HAAS FERRARI 1:43.627 1:43.883 13
    16 20 Kevin Magnussen HAAS FERRARI 1:43.756 8
    17 19 Felipe Massa WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:44.014 6
    18 18 Lance Stroll WILLIAMS MERCEDES 1:44.728 9
    19 94 Pascal Wehrlein SAUBER FERRARI 1:45.059 9
    20 9 Marcus Ericsson SAUBER FERRARI 1:45.570 6
    Q1 107% Time - 1:49.150
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    What a disaster of a start. (see video link below)

    Vettel was in the wrong, I don't see any other way!

    Video link of start,


    Hamilton drove a faultless race & Ricciardo drove the best he could to stay with him, excellent drives for both.

    The race was actually quite interesting regards strategy with intermediates, wets, slicks & safety cars involved on the drying track.

    Ricciardo was also suffering gearbox hydraulics pressure issues, so a stellar drive under the circumstances.
    ...."The team was asking me to manage the gears through the race and after I learned we had a leak and were losing oil pressure in the gearbox from early on. Of course I came here to win and really wanted it, but second place is great and I’m not going to complain about it.”


    2017 FORMULA 1 SINGAPORE AIRLINES SINGAPORE GRAND PRIX - RACE RESULT
    1517 Sep 2017Marina Bay Street Circuit, Singapore

    POS NO DRIVER CAR LAPS TIME/RETIRED PTS
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton MERCEDES 58 2:03:23.544 25
    2 3 Daniel Ricciardo RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 58 +4.507s 18
    3 77 Valtteri Bottas MERCEDES 58 +8.800s 15
    4 55 Carlos Sainz TORO ROSSO 58 +22.822s 12
    5 11 Sergio Perez FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 58 +25.359s 10
    6 30 Jolyon Palmer RENAULT 58 +27.259s 8
    7 2 Stoffel Vandoorne MCLAREN HONDA 58 +30.388s 6
    8 18 Lance Stroll WILLIAMS MERCEDES 58 +41.696s 4
    9 8 Romain Grosjean HAAS FERRARI 58 +43.282s 2
    10 31 Esteban Ocon FORCE INDIA MERCEDES 58 +44.795s 1
    11 19 Felipe Massa WILLIAMS MERCEDES 58 +46.536s 0
    12 94 Pascal Wehrlein SAUBER FERRARI 56 +2 laps 0
    NC 20 Kevin Magnussen HAAS FERRARI 50 DNF 0
    NC 27 Nico Hulkenberg RENAULT 48 DNF 0
    NC 9 Marcus Ericsson SAUBER FERRARI 35 DNF 0
    NC 26 Daniil Kvyat TORO ROSSO 10 DNF 0
    NC 14 Fernando Alonso MCLAREN HONDA 8 DNF 0
    NC 5 Sebastian Vettel FERRARI 0 DNF 0
    NC 33 Max Verstappen RED BULL RACING TAG HEUER 0 DNF 0
    NC 7 Kimi Räikkönen FERRARI 0 DNF 0
    Last edited by Tiny; 18-09-17 at 06:50 PM.
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    There was clearly plenty of space on that road, Vettel must think he is the only driver on the track and doesn't need to use the mirror when he crosses 'lanes'.
    He deserved the result of his action but poor Verstappen and Kimi certainly did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    There was clearly plenty of space on that road, Vettel must think he is the only driver on the track and doesn't need to use the mirror when he crosses 'lanes'.
    He deserved the result of his action but poor Verstappen and Kimi certainly did not.
    I wouldn't say Kimi was free from fault either

    Very poor driving for both red cars
    The run to the first corner reminded me of smash up derbies, not premier class F1 racing.

    Looked like a return of serve from Vettle, but it ended up costing the whole team
    Would have been a heated debrief

    Cost a lot of money and all the points....
    And for once, Verstappan was the innocent party
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    Not the slightest bit of fault from Kimi.
    Verstappen is clearly pushed from Vettel into Kimi.

    Bevor Vettel's move there is clearly plenty of space for all of them.
    This is a split second reaction thing and if you watch frame by frame you see Verstappen going a bit left already quite early but Kimi is already there so Verstappen trys to straighten out (fantastic reaction) but Vettel continues to push Verstappen into Kimi.

    Vettel solely at fault.
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    Yeah true, Kimi didn't have anywhere to go.
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    Alonso can't pull a trick either!

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    Tiny,whats happening? isn't there a GP today?
    There is a fine line between "Hobby" and "Madness"

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    Quote Originally Posted by allover View Post
    Tiny,whats happening? isn't there a GP today?
    Nah, Malaysia is next weekend. MotoGP tonight though.
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    To keep up with F1 races just use my link from post #1:
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    To keep up with F1 races just use my link from post #1:
    Thanks Nomeat, must have missed that
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    Race tonight at 6pm, FS5
    Note; Vettel failed to qualify as his engine lost power in Q1. Will start at back of grid.
    Could be a good race, the Red Bulls had good pace right thru practice.

    2017 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX - QUALIFYING

    29 Sep 01 Oct 2017 Sepang International Circuit, Kuala Lumpur




    Pos No Driver Car Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:31.605 1:30.977 1:30.076 18
    2 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:32.259 1:30.926 1:30.121 14
    3 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 1:31.920 1:30.931 1:30.541 12
    4 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 1:32.416 1:31.061 1:30.595 16
    5 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1:32.254 1:30.803 1:30.758 17
    6 31 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 1:32.527 1:31.651 1:31.478 17
    7 2 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 1:32.838 1:31.848 1:31.582 18
    8 27 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1:32.586 1:31.778 1:31.607 17
    9 11 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 1:32.768 1:31.484 1:31.658 18
    10 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 1:33.049 1:32.010 1:31.704 17
    11 19 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 1:32.267 1:32.034 12
    12 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 1:32.576 1:32.100 14
    13 18 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 1:33.000 1:32.307 14
    14 55 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 1:32.650 1:32.402 14
    15 10 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 1:32.547 1:32.558 14
    16 8 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 1:33.308 8
    17 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 1:33.434 6
    18 94 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 1:33.483 9
    19 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 1:33.970 9
    NC 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari DNF 2
    Q1 107% Time - 1:38.017 Note - Vettel failed to set a time within the Q1 107% requirement, races at stewards' discretion.
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    Not a bad race, well deserved win to Verstappen.
    Second to Hamilton.
    3rd to Ricciardo.
    Vettel 4th from back of the grid, fine drive until

    2017 FORMULA 1 PETRONAS MALAYSIA GRAND PRIX - RACE RESULT

    29 Sep 01 Oct 2017 Sepang International Circuit, Kuala Lumpur



    Pos No Driver Car Laps Time/Retired Pts
    1 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 56 1:30:01.290 25
    2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 56 +12.770s 18
    3 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 56 +22.519s 15
    4 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 56 +37.362s 12
    5 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 56 +56.021s 10
    6 11 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 56 +78.630s 8
    7 2 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 55 +1 lap 6
    8 18 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 55 +1 lap 4
    9 19 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 55 +1 lap 2
    10 31 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 55 +1 lap 1
    11 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 55 +1 lap 0
    12 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 55 +1 lap 0
    13 8 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 55 +1 lap 0
    14 10 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 55 +1 lap 0
    15 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 55 +1 lap 0
    16 27 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 55 +1 lap 0
    17 94 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 55 +1 lap 0
    18 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 54 +2 laps 0
    NC 55 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 29 DNF 0
    NC 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 0 DNS 0
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    Again, not a bad race, was hoping Max & Daniel could put more pressure on Lewis, but they couldn't, he seems to be able stretch when he wants.
    Vettel didn't have a good day retiring after four laps at Suzuka following a spark plug failure.
    I've never heard of anyone retiring with a spark plug failure, coil yes, maybe that's what they meant, as the coils are directly on the top of the spark plugs in a lot of modern engines.

    2017 FORMULA 1 JAPANESE GRAND PRIX - RACE RESULT

    06 08 Oct 2017 Suzuka International Racing Course, Suzuka


    Pos No Driver Car Laps Time/Retired Pts
    1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 53 131.194 25
    2 33 Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 53 +1.211s 18
    3 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing TAG Heuer 53 +9.679s 15
    4 77 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 53 +10.580s 12
    5 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 53 +32.622s 10
    6 31 Esteban Ocon Force India Mercedes 53 +67.788s 8
    7 11 Sergio Perez Force India Mercedes 53 +71.424s 6
    8 20 Kevin Magnussen Haas Ferrari 53 +88.953s 4
    9 8 Romain Grosjean Haas Ferrari 53 +89.883s 2
    10 19 Felipe Massa Williams Mercedes 52 +1 lap 1
    11 14 Fernando Alonso McLaren Honda 52 +1 lap 0
    12 30 Jolyon Palmer Renault 52 +1 lap 0
    13 10 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso 52 +1 lap 0
    14 2 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren Honda 52 +1 lap 0
    15 94 Pascal Wehrlein Sauber Ferrari 51 +2 laps 0
    NC 18 Lance Stroll Williams Mercedes 45 DNF 0
    NC 27 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 40 DNF 0
    NC 9 Marcus Ericsson Sauber Ferrari 7 DNF 0
    NC 5 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 4 DNF 0
    NC 55 Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso 0 DNF 0
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