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    Default 9/11 - Conspiracy or Real?

    Ok, this isn't really my style.
    But after a week long argument with a friend (Yes White Ox, that same friend)
    I thought i'd post something here, just to see what others think.

    Personally, i think the Conspiracy People or "Truthers" are bonkers.
    But, i gave them a few days of my life, watched a never ending pile of YouTube videos, read a bunch of reports, heard from so called experts, engineers, pilots, explosives experts, blah blah, anyone they could attach a title too.

    Heard all the Theories on the Twin Towers was a planned demolition
    That they was no planes at all, too the planes were swapped mid flight for drones with no windows etc
    Why did Building 7 collapse, blah blah

    Honestly, some of the Conspiracy Videos aren't bad, they kind of put forward a reasonable argument, even if it is probably flawed with incorrect knowledge about what they are talking about.

    One of my favourites, is that an Alloy Plane just can't penetrate a building made with 14" steel girders and concrete.
    That it should have smashed into the side of the building and fallen to the ground
    They believe it was CGI we saw on our TVs, bahahahahah

    Then they claim the Air Defence was turned off that day
    That the President when told just remained reading books to children, when they should have rushed him away
    Pilots claiming that a commercial plane couldn't have made the turn and decent at that speed, that the plane would break up.
    Engineers claiming buildings do not collapse like that. That it goes against the laws of Physics.
    On and on it goes.

    If anything, these "Truthers" are fun to bait
    16 years and not one single person has come out to clear their conscience
    Months and months it would take to load the Twin Towers with explosives, and no one noticed? The sniffer dogs broken those days?

    So anyone here believe there was more to it than what the media told us?
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    I voted real.

    The planes were real, the buildings were real, the people who died, were injured and remain traumatised today... are all real.

    I do however believe there is more to it than what has been made public.

    I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to the extent many believe, but perhaps what info the American Government knew prior, and possibly ignored, then covered up.

    IE: Business as usual in politics.

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    The ONLY conspiracy is the one to bag the ill informed......I thought that those videos were amusing for the first couple, but after that it just got tedious.

    As Tommy Lee Jones said in Men In Black...."What a gullible breed."
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Did anyone mention the little green men being involved.......then we would know it was real!!!!!!!

    I believe it was a cover up, of incompetence, in agencies not been aware!!!!
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    I agree mtv

    It is kind of a close story for me, as my now late mother was on a plane in the USA that took off in the same minutes as the planes that crashed into the Twin Towers and Pentagon both took off.
    Her flight was out of LA though, other side of the country.
    Yet, all on board were told lies
    The flight was meant to be LA to Melb direct, but it flew into Sydney to be checked over by a Tactical Squad (same people that did the Sydney Olympics)
    All on board were told they landed in Sydney because Melbourne was totally fogged in, no visibility
    I was at Tullamarine Airport, waiting to pick up my mother, its was a perfect clear sunny day, you couldn't have got better

    I appreciate the reason the occupants were told this story, so as not to start a panic
    Years later, by chance, i meet the head flight attendant on that flight.
    It was her regular flight, Melb to LA, LA to Melb.

    She told me they were made aware of the situation not long after take off.
    That cockpit door was locked. And a landing was being planned for Sydney soon after.

    So i realise we get told lies
    But to believe the US Government planned and plotted 9/11... pfft they couldn't even make a white stain on a blue dress go away
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    Some of the Quote i love from the "Truthers";

    "The building fell in free fall"..... Right, like 50,000 tonnes of concrete and steel are meant to just fall down gently?

    "There was no wreckage of any plane found in the rubble of the Twin Towers", "No Black Box was found from any of the planes"

    There are heaps more, if you care to watch a couple of these videos
    The Debunker Videos are pretty funny also, especially when they strike up a conversation with a Truther.

    Yet, i am amazed at the amount of BBC, ABC and other documentaries based on the Conspiracy.
    I guess stuff like this sells, anything you cant prove either way will always draw a crowd.
    Especially when you get retired Lieutenant Generals saying it must have been an inside job.
    Or testimonials from Demolition Experts and Pilots alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to the extent many believe, but perhaps what info the American Government knew prior, and possibly ignored, then covered up.
    Quote Originally Posted by porkop View Post
    I believe it was a cover up, of incompetence, in agencies not been aware!!!!
    Totally agree to both comments, I think it could be one of either or even a combination of both, and then was covered up to cover their arses. I voted Real.
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    It's a bunch of bullsh*t and that's it. The US government didn't know and even if they did they would not have believed it anyway. Certainly Dubya didn't know....the look on his face said it all. Then again Dubya was clueless most of the time about almost everything anyway.

    The security services were embarrassed because there were clues, but they were ignored or overlooked. I personally don't fault them for that as it was so out of left field. BUT the US masses are so deluded that they expect perfect security ALL the time so they can eat their Big Macs in peace. But perfect security can never be achieved. Thus the security services attempts to cover their arses.

    Americans don't understand any warfare other than big guns and big battles. Dealing with insurgents is just not in their military's wiring.
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    Definitely real but the collapse of building 7 left me scratching my head bit!

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    There should of been at least 20 stories of rubble .Where did the 3000 toilets go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post
    There should of been at least 20 stories of rubble .Where did the 3000 toilets go.
    Same place the 8000 windows went, crushed into dust by the worlds biggest press.
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    HAHA . Having demolished lots of buildings that is definately not what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclar View Post
    HAHA . Having demolished lots of buildings that is definately not what happens.
    You demolish a lot of 104 Floor Sky Scrapper do you kclar?
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    I enjoyed the Video but found the comments far more informative.

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    This cracked me up, best comedy ive seen in years

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    This is a good laugh also, should be on Myth Busters

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    Dustification, look out, we have a new word now

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    The one conspiracy theory that I do give some credence to is the crash of United Airlines flight 93 - the one that crashed in a rural paddock.

    The official story is that the passengers and crew overpowered the hijackers, But in the process, the aircraft crashed. I call bull...t. The air force shot it down, but they couldn't bring themselves to tell the public.

    Think about it: multiple aircraft have been hijacked and are being crashed into significant buildings / assets. The military are going to do everything they can to stop it and the passengers will die anyway - whether at the hands of the hijackers or at the hands of the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony54 View Post
    Definitely real but the collapse of building 7 left me scratching my head bit!
    its easy to see why it collapsed - it was physically connected to the main Plaza , and a massive fire started in the basement substation when the others collapsed. with no water available in the sprinkler heads ( due to the others collapsing ) the fire engulfed the lower storeys weakening the whole structure.

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