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    Default IOT who pays when things go wrong?

    If your Fridge turns itself off because someone hacked it's OS.
    "The question becomes who is ultimately responsible for the interactions of the product," asks Amodio. "And more importantly to the people in the cybersecurity field, who is responsible if a hacker breaches the security to the device and causes damages in the real world?"
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    I wont be connecting any appliance to the Internet after thinking about the mayhem it could cause if the system was hacked.
    I stand unequivicably behind everything I say , I just dont ever remember saying it !!

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    It's a bit like asking who is going to get sued because a crim hacked the lock on your front door.
    Are you going to sue the locksmith?

    Reality is not a lot different. You're not going to leave the crown jewels sitting on your kitchen table while you go to work thinking that the front door lock will prevent them being stolen.

    "Things" that matter will be behind multiple layers of security. It's the things that don't matter might be a little more unpredictable.
    I can already think of lot of security issues, but the way I use ESP6822's is to run them on public networks. They are not part of anything important and vandalism of them is a minor annoyance, not a major disaster.
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    The issue is far deeper than that. It's not a problem if they hack your fridge, but, what if someone manages to find their way into ICU, or the Operating theatre. Many of these devices are still running last century technology because the cost of upgrades can be prohibitive and the devices have been (relatively) stable for decades.
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    Another way Skynet is going to kill you - turn off your life support

    In the case of the ICU, it's only a matter of me walking in and changing your meds on your chart. Same result.
    It's not what can go wrong that you fear, it's that somebody will not be held accountable that enables the fear.

    This is one of the cases I look into the crystal ball and see the future is very foggy.
    It's not like we forget Stuxnet very easily.

    It all reminds me of an episode of the twilight zone and probably an enhanced version for Black Mirror
    "Push this button and you will be greatly rewarded, but somebody will also die."
    And down the Dystopian sinkhole we go
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