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    Default DM500S & Legit Fo*tel Card

    Hi All,

    yes, I'm a newb but have read eveything I can on the Newb part of the forum and still can't seem to make this work.

    I have the following;

    - New DM500S which i'm about to flash with the latest PLi Jade image
    - Legit Fo*tel Sub with Blue Card (not IQ)
    - Fo*tel installed dish (65cm or so i think). I believe its pointed at Optus C1.

    Ok, with the current software in the DM500S (software ver 4.4.0.27.05.2008 <---- Enigma I'm guessing), I cannot get the picture to work. I have followed some online video's and step by steps but it still wont go.

    I think I'm getting stuck here;

    - LNB Settings
    - Transponder Scanning gets me nothing.

    Can someone provide me some help with the Fo*tel Dish LNB Settings. All I can get out of the standard box for this is 10.70GHz. What do I need to input into the DM500S?

    I'm thinking the tranpsponder scans are not working because I'm inputting something wrong into the LNB settings.....

    I'm sorry if this has been asked many times but I'm really stuck.

    Any help here would be appreciated. PM me if required.

    Cheers
    Sash



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    LNB setting s a good start. They are written on them but it will either be a 11300 or 10700. Just try each and then try scan a transponder. For the transponder freq check out and click on packages.
    Also have a read in the Dreambox section as there isn't much about them in the Newbie section.

    Leroy

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    depending on your image (probably Gemini 4.4) that would be
    setup / satellites and transponders / satellite configuration /
    I use
    non-standard user defined configuration
    Optus C1 under Satellite and then OK when cursor on LNB 0
    and fill in ..
    LOF/L - 10700
    LOF/H - 10700
    threshold - 00000
    increase voltage - blank
    then hit save (green) and save (green again)
    then try scan

    as leroy said it could also be 11300 - but I think you saw 10700 in your stb
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    Thanks for the help guy's.

    I think I'll be able to sort out the LNB setting from nfnoice post.
    I did see 10.70Ghz in the original box so i'm guessing I should use the 10700 settings.

    I'll check these tonight.

    Still stuck on the following;

    'For the transponder freq check out LyngSat - Lyngemark Satellite and click on packages."

    I've had a look on that website. What on earth is all that?? Am I supposed to match the 'Frequency' and 'Symbol Rate' based on what my package is? Like a 'basic package' would have different numbers or something?? Confused here.

    Also just realised that this thing needed an internet access to do the first part of all this i.e. loading the 'satellite.xml' file

    I'll hook up the cat5 cable tonight and give it a crack after setting up its IP address. Would I need to forward any ports for it to use the internet? If so which ports?

    Cheers
    Sash

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    I would not have thought you need internet access to load a satellite.xml -
    that should be part of the standard image - check and make sure Optus C1 (156.0) in in your choices - dont worry about lyngsat - lots of good info there - but hopefully (usually) your imagemakers have done the hard work in getting that stuff into your satellite.xml
    although I give all my boxes internet access for update software(plugins ppanels & images )

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfnovice View Post
    I would not have thought you need internet access to load a satellite.xml -
    that should be part of the standard image - check and make sure Optus C1 (156.0) in in your choices - dont worry about lyngsat - lots of good info there - but hopefully (usually) your imagemakers have done the hard work in getting that stuff into your satellite.xml
    although I give all my boxes internet access for update software(plugins ppanels & images )

    Yeah, I'm sure I've ticked Optus C1 in that menu. In fact, thats all thats ticked.

    I'm still confused about the transponder, from the website above, there appears to be the following (16 in total) fo*tel ones;

    Frequency, Symbol Rate, FEC

    12287 V, 27800, 3/4
    12358 H, 27800, 3/4
    12398 H, 27800, 3/4
    12438 H, 27800, 3/4
    12448 V, 27800, 3/4
    12478 H, 27800, 3/4
    12487 V, 27800, 3/4

    12518 H, 27800, 3/4
    12527 V, 27800, 3/4
    12558 H, 27800, 3/4
    12567 V, 27800, 3/4
    12598 H, 27800, 3/4
    12607 V, 27800, 3/4
    12638 H, 27800, 3/4
    12647 V, 27800, 3/4
    12689 H, 27800, 3/4

    Which one do I use?
    And how do I know which one to choose?

    Cheers
    Sash

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    choose 12358 H, 27800, 3/4 with NIT and should scan in all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol View Post
    choose 12358 H, 27800, 3/4 with NIT and should scan in all.

    Leroy
    I've tried that but not with the 10700 LNB settings.

    What's NIT?

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by SashET View Post

    What's NIT?

    Sash
    NIT = Network Information Table.

    Providors often network satellite transponders in the same way that computers can be networked together.

    This means that with NIT set to "ON" all the networked transponders will be searched by the receiver without your having to enter separate transponder frequencies, symbol rates and FEC. Only one set of details is sufficient.

    (As one question usually leads to another - symbol rate refers ultimately to the total bandwidth occupied by a group of channels on the same transponder and FEC refers to Forward Error Correction, i.e. the amount of error correction transmitted to ensure packet integrity, e.g. an FEC of 3/4 indicates 75% of the data transmitted is program material and 25% is error correction. - I'll stop there).

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    I got it to work!!! YAY! T

    his is without flashing it so whatever image its running is in there now.

    The settings I used were;

    LNB:
    LOF/L - 10700
    LOF/H - 10700
    threshold - 00000

    Transponder:
    12438 H, 27800, 3/4

    Worked perfectly.

    Now here's a funny one, using the Fo*tel Card, I now have more channels than I am paying for. My basic package does not include Movie One, Two or Greats, but here they are on my TV screen. Any ideas why? I'm not complaining BTW.

    Cheers
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    As i only found out last night, that movie package is free for the rest of the month for anyone with fox subscription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slingy View Post
    As i only found out last night, that movie package is free for the rest of the month for anyone with fox subscription.

    Ohhh I see, that explains it then.

    Next item on teh agenda, get a CAT5 cable to it from my router for C_S!.

    Cheers
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    try AlJazeera now...it is free....

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    Quote Originally Posted by z80 View Post
    try AlJazeera now...it is free....

    Sweet, will do.

    Now onto the next step, getting this thing on the internet.

    I have setup the communications within the dreambox giving it a static IP address just like I have all my other PC's on my network.

    From what I know, I will need to forward some ports to it (which ones?)

    Is this all that I need to do?

    If so, how do I access it across my network, like localhost:8080 or something?

    Cheers
    Sash

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    to get it on the internet - it should work through your router like any other PC
    you did put your router Ip as the gateway ?
    you should not need to forward ports unless you want to use your box over the net (dont get ahead of yourself)

    to access it internally across your network - you can use ftp http or telnet
    just put in your browser
    username : root and password = dreambox if it asks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfnovice View Post
    to get it on the internet - it should work through your router like any other PC
    you did put your router Ip as the gateway ?
    you should not need to forward ports unless you want to use your box over the net (dont get ahead of yourself)

    to access it internally across your network - you can use ftp http or telnet
    just put in your browser
    username : root and password = dreambox if it asks

    Yep, all this is sorted.

    I entered all the IP details into the dreambox, got it going and then tried accessing it on my network PC and it asked me for a password. Tried dreambox, admin and a host of other default passwords and none worked. The guy that uploaded the latest image onto it must have changed the password.

    Anyway's, i have sinice flashed it with the latest PLi jade and setup everything again. Flashing it was a breeze and so was setting it up again (this time knowing all the value to put in).

    Fo*tel legit card works with this image as well.

    So I tried accessing the dreambox from my PC again and all is good. I can get the user interface webpage, change channels, watch it on the pc etc.

    Now, what I want to know is;

    - I have used port 8081 for the web interface (this is all good, works well). Aparently, I need to use ports 21 FTP & 23 Telnet for some servers. What is FTP and Telnet and why do these servers need these ports? Whats the go with these?


    Cheers
    Sash

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    your on a steep learning curve mate
    if you dont know what they are - then you dont need them

    ftp - enables you to copies stuff to and from your box (cfg's etc)
    telnet - is the linux dos prompt - enables all that that might entail

    and as leroy says below - they are the std ports for those activities
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    they are the std ports assigned to those functions.

    Leroy

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    Those ports aren't necessary for card sharing. The only ones i've got open are 12000 and 16001 both TCP.
    It's probably rare you'd need to use FTP (for transferring files) and telnet (for remote terminal). Basically, DCC has telnet and FTP built into it anyway, so you can just use that on the internal network to do that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfnovice View Post
    your on a steep learning curve mate
    if you dont know what they are - then you dont need them

    ftp - enables you to copies stuff to and from your box (cfg's etc)
    telnet - is the linux dos prompt - enables all that that might entail

    and as leroy says below - they are the std ports for those activities
    Steep learning curve is right....

    I think I've learnt most of the hard stuff now, but man, allot of reading through threads etc. to get the info.

    Anyway, with ports 21 and 23, these are required by the C_S server (or so I am told), does that mean the the C_S server can copy files onto and from my dreambox?? and also run command on my dreambox via telnet?

    Why would a C_S Server need all this?? I thought all it need to do was get the smartcard details so it can then decrypt the signal?

    Not sure if the above is talked about but some info here would be good. I don't like opening all these ports if I do not have to.


    Cheers
    Sash

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