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    Default Cccam and n*s card using a phoenix?

    Has anyone been able to read a n*s card using a phoenix reader and cccam?

    Cccam works perfectly using a the same reader and other cards.

    The dreambox will read it in the slot ok using cccam but I am more interested to know why it isn't being recognised using a phoenix.



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    The answer is yes without an issue
    /dev/tts/0 card detect yes
    If these are right maybe the pheonix not right

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    CCcam as a server will read an N*S card at 3.57 MHz in a phoenix.

    NewCS will read an N*S card at both 3.57 MHz and 6 MHz in a phoenix.

    I could NOT get CCcam to read an N*S card at 6 MHz in a phoenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarwin View Post
    The answer is yes without an issue
    /dev/tts/0 card detect yes
    If these are right maybe the pheonix not right
    Tarwin I think you're refferring to newcs aren't you? I'm not aware of that option in cccam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandery View Post
    CCcam as a server will read an N*S card at 3.57 MHz in a phoenix.

    NewCS will read an N*S card at both 3.57 MHz and 6 MHz in a phoenix.

    I could NOT get CCcam to read an N*S card at 6 MHz in a phoenix.
    Thanks Sandery, that fixed the problem. It was doing my head in, I tried every config possible except the speed change on the reader!

    Card works flawlessly at 6mhz using newcs, will be interested to see how it runs at 3.57mhz using cccam.

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    At 3.57 MHz, ECM response times are approx 0.55 secs.

    At 6 MHz, ECM response times are approx 0.31 secs.

    Hence, this is why I personally use NewCS as the server and not CCcam.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandery View Post
    At 3.57 MHz, ECM response times are approx 0.55 secs.

    At 6 MHz, ECM response times are approx 0.31 secs.

    Hence, this is why I personally use NewCS as the server and not CCcam.

    Cheers
    OK good to know. Thanks again.

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    hello Mr Pixellation.

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    I haven't used cccam as a server but from memory there is an option in the config file to change the clock frequency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandery View Post
    At 3.57 MHz, ECM response times are approx 0.55 secs.
    Same times here, approx 0.55 sec.

    There are some clockspeed settings in cccam.cfg but I'm not too keen to play with them.

    If anyone has been able to get it to run at 6mhz please report here how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbo View Post
    Same times here, approx 0.55 sec.

    There are some clockspeed settings in cccam.cfg but I'm not too keen to play with them.

    If anyone has been able to get it to run at 6mhz please report here how.
    CCcam Oc NDS card to 7.8 mhz
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci0 7800000
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci1 7800000


    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/ttyUSB0 780000

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSA View Post
    CCcam Oc NDS card to 7.8 mhz
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci0 7800000
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci1 7800000


    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/ttyUSB0 780000
    RSA the serial reader I currently use has 2 options, 3.57 and 6.00mhz. Will this work and what speed would I set the reader at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbo View Post
    RSA the serial reader I currently use has 2 options, 3.57 and 6.00mhz. Will this work and what speed would I set the reader at?
    You can try setting your phoenix at 6Mhz and add this line to CCcam.cfg
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/tts/0/ 6000000


    but I haven't tested that I only use SmartReader + readers

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    SmartReader +

    Is the way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSA View Post
    You can try setting your phoenix at 6Mhz and add this line to CCcam.cfg
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/tts/0/ 6000000


    but I haven't tested that I only use SmartReader + readers
    I've tried CCcam at 6 MHz using the above with a phoenix and had no luck.

    Are you currently running an N*S card at 7.8 MHz in a SmartReader + with CCcam ? Is this validated with reduced ECM response times ?

    I did look around a while back but could not find SmartReader + in Oz. Where did you source yours from?

    Cheers

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    Q: Are you currently running an N*S card at 7.8 MHz in a SmartReader + with CCcam ? Is this validated with reduced ECM response times ?

    A: Yes and Yes

    Q: I did look around a while back but could not find SmartReader + in Oz. Where did you source yours from?

    A: Got them from the Uk

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    Do they work with black challenged cards RSA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weirdo View Post
    Do they work with black challenged cards RSA?
    If you meen black challenged cards as in sellers cards with the old RSA crypt then thats a No!

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    Bummer, thanks mate

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    I am running an nds at 3.57mhz using cccamd 2.0.8 without any problem but i'd like to try it at 6mhz to take advantage of the improved response times. I have also tried running cccamd at 6mhz with no luck so I am now trying newcs. I am having no luck there either.

    I am using newcs 1.50 (x86 version in a CentOS linux box), I have the phoenix/smartmouse 3.57/6mhz programmer from sattronics (as mentioned in my post below) and I have it jumpered in 6mhz / phoenix mode.



    When I fire up newcs I get this error after the ATR.

    [ 1244 ] [ Loader ] Init NDS card
    [ 1244 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting Parity to: ODD
    [ 1244 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting 2 Stop bits on node /dev/ttyS0
    [ 1244 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting Baud to custom 16129
    [ 1245 ] [ NDS ] Could not get P3
    [ 1245 ] [ NDS ] i/o error ?
    [ 1245 ] [ Loader ] Card 0900 on port /dev/ttyS0 failed
    [ 1245 ] [ Loader ] Reinit card with caid 0900
    [ 1245 ] [ Loader ] Reader type 2 on node /dev/ttyS0
    [ 1245 ] [ Phoenix ] Opening device /dev/ttyS0
    [ 1245 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting Parity to: ODD
    [ 1245 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting 2 Stop bits on node /dev/ttyS0
    [ 1245 ] [ Phoenix ] Setting Baud to custom 16129
    [ 1245 ] [ Phoenix ] Normal RESET on node /dev/ttyS0
    This is my newcs.xml file.

    <newCSconfig>

    <readers name="Phoenix">
    <device>
    <name>Phoenix</name>
    <type>phoenix</type>
    <mhz>600</mhz>
    <node>/dev/ttyS0</node>
    <parity>odd</parity>
    <reset>normal</reset>
    <export>Yes</export>
    <enabled>yes</enabled>
    <blocksa>No</blocksa>
    <blockua>No</blockua>
    <blockga>No</blockga>
    <crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
    <PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
    <carddetect>no</carddetect>
    <newcamd_port>12666</newcamd_port>
    <autosid>Yes</autosid>
    <Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
    <priority>round</priority>
    </device>
    </readers>

    <cache>
    <emm>20</emm>
    <ecm>-1</ecm>
    </cache>

    <httpd>
    <server>
    <port>16001</port>
    <enabled>yes</enabled>
    </server>
    <user>
    <name>admin</name>
    <password>admin</password>
    <accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
    </user>
    </httpd>

    <debug>
    <password>pwd</password>
    <mode>advanced</mode>
    <level>verbose</level>
    <type>all</type>
    <output>console,tcp,file</output>
    <console_options>all</console_options>
    <logfile>/var/log/newcs.log</logfile>
    <file_options>normal,init,ecm,emm</file_options>
    </debug>

    <newcamdserver>
    <enabled>Yes</enabled>
    <name>newcs</name>
    <deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
    <user>
    <name>mortsamis</name>
    <password>password</password>
    <spider>off</spider>
    <sidoverride>on</sidoverride>
    <au>on</au>
    </user>
    </newcamdserver>

    <radegastserver>
    <enabled>No</enabled>
    </radegastserver>

    </newCSconfig>
    I'm probably just missing something basic. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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