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Do I Convert older WiFi Transmitters to Repeaters or Extenders?
I have about 6 of old and new WiFi Acces Points.
I have a narrow but very long yard. I would like to place transmitters at regular distances, Have them ALL LAN WIRED back to my router.
Id like to walk from one end of my yard to the other while downloading a "whatever" on the net and have my lap top change from Transmitter 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 , without having to join each transmitter and without cutting out my connection.
Similar to your mobile phone where it can change towers but you keep talking totally unaware (unless your with Vodafone).
I have heard of DD-WRT but need to be advised what would be the best set up for my situation.
Extender mode, Repeater mode ???? Which will give me no dropout but change transmitters automatically? Or is there a better way to go that im not aware of???
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Tiny (01-03-13)
The answer is NO... you will not get "Cell Tower" like roaming from domestic gear.
If you'd like to spend $5000 for commercial gear, you may get those results.
Some people "Claim" that using range extenders gives them glitch free streaming across multiple AP's.... but in practise, it just doesn't work.
With "Enterprise" equipment you will see an improvement.... but still not glitch free.
You need multi channel, Same ID, full blown roaming....
Do some reading on networking forums, you'll soon realise, there is NO SUCH BEAST in the common mans budget, no matter what people claim to tell you!
In your scenario, you are better off with a good AP, an antenna that suits your block and an Apple MacBook that picks up the weakest signal from 1 kilometer away!!!
The deafness of your equipment is your largest problem, my Macbook Pro finds available networks, 800 meters away from when my windows laptops finds them
Last edited by ol' boy; 01-03-13 at 06:38 PM.
Narrow but very long...... sounds like a yagi antenna at one location (house?) pointed toward the far end of your property may be an ideal solution.
Plenty of gain and narrow beamwidth and connected to a single router.
Worth a try.
oceanboy is right. Standard consumer stuff doesn't live up to the expectations. Windows has a reluctance to release a session with an AP once it is established, even if there is another AP with better signal, and when it does release there is no seamless handover. I have seen some attempts, but they never seemed to work properly.
The big players , Cisco etc, have proprietary drivers for their solutions, which does do a seamless handover between "cells" but there is a $$$ attached to the AP's and backend magic.
And ditto to what MTV said...
Geez I am in agreeable mood tonight....
Last edited by autotuner; 01-03-13 at 06:53 PM. Reason: addition
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy...
Looking at MTV's suggestion of a Yagi located at one end, how about one those USB Wifi 'adaptors' that have a 'Rubber Ducky' type antenna that can be unscrewed used on the devise IF it has the option of using USB.
My old ACER travelmate WiFi card died so I replaced it with one of those and because the Battery is dead in the ACER, I cant go wandering about with it to see just how far I could take it away.
I stand unequivicably behind everything I say, I just dont ever remember saying it !!
Tx is one thing.... Rx is another, an antenna wont solve the real problem.
Deafness and Handover
I disagree.Originally Posted by oceanboy
With the antenna connected only to a single router, there is no 'handover'.
A yagi provides higer gain for both TX and RX.
That's a very good suggestion and one well worth experimenting with.
I do not see any reason whatsoever why it will not work perfectly.
Commercially made yagi antennae for wifi use are readily available, but here are some links to get statesmanjeff (and interested others) started on the DIY variety ...
Statesmanjeff, please keep us informed regarding your progress.
(As I have a 100m. deep block, I might try it myself if I can find the time to do so).
Totally correct.
(1) No "handover" and (2) higher gain resulting in greater range (distance) on both transmit AND receive.
In my view, perfect for the OP's application.
I just ordered one of these to try out on my Billion router
Trying to get reception out to my outdoor spa
Wow that is so cheep
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
stop making me feel so guilty
Looks very small too :P
When you do things right, people won't be sure that you have done anything at all
lol
thanks
it's probably shite
Thanks for posting those details, Weirdo.
I've ordered one myself to try.
I'll post my findings when it has arrived and I have had time to test it.
If it is shite, I'll blame you.
$11.50 including delivery..... nothing to lose trying one.
Apart from the U bolts shown mounted on the wrong side of the plate and a crappy non-UV resistant cable tie shown in the pics, the specs look good.
A folded dipole gives it a broader bandwidth.
Sure, it's probably not as well built as higher-quality commercial antennas, but at 2.4GHz, it's small enough not to have a lot of wind loading.
I'll be interested to hear how they go for you, fellas.
how important is direct line of sight for reception mtv?
With the 1.5 meter lead that comes with it it probably won't get above my gutter line which still means a brick corner of wall in direct los.
I might have to make the lead longer if that matters.
At those frequencies, LOS can be critical.
A bit of foliage at a distance will have less effect, but having a brick wall close to the antenna could block most of the signal.
The antenna doesn't necessarily have to be very high, but it does need a fairly clear path.
Higher generally increases signal distance though.
A 1.5m cable is pretty useless on a yagi, unless you can mount your router that close to it, so yes, an extension cable is likely in most cases.
Use the lowest-loss 50 ohm cable you can afford.
Last edited by mtv; 06-03-13 at 04:04 AM. Reason: added info
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