New Toshiba hdd. os won't install

[forbirun]

I bought a Toshiba 1tb hdd through eBay last week. I tried to install a copy of windows7 64 bit onto it and got a strange error. I added screenshots of the error and of the hdd I bought. The laptop is a Toshiba L650 and reason for upgrading hdd was old hdd failed.
Any ideas? Is the hdd stuffed? Or would it be incomparable with laptop?

[SS Dave]

I have always done a Full format (not a quick) when installing a new hdd.

SS Dave

[Philquad]

is it a new lappy, did it have win 8 on it?
if bios is in uefi mode it wont see the drive
or wont install to it
look in the bios for legacy mode
turn off fast boot
turn off secure boot

[Philquad]

41000 posts, i believe him

should see a new drive anyway
formatted or not
im doing a lot of this lately
its the new bios\eufi thingy

so u either need to make a gpt bootable disk
or change bios to see mbr drives
joey will explain it, im not big on words

I have always done a Full format (not a quick) when installing a new hdd.

SS Dave

[forbirun]

Thanks for the replies guys. makes sense..
I might connect hdd up to hdd caddy and create partition. See if that makes a difference..
Hi Phil,
Laptop is 2yrs old. I'll take a look in bios and see whats available. I did hit the F9 key to set to default today.
Cheers
Roy

[jwoegerbauer]

I bought a Toshiba 1tb hdd through eBay last week. I tried to install a copy of windows7 64 bit onto it and got a strange error. I added screenshots of the error and of the hdd I bought. The laptop is a Toshiba L650 and reason for upgrading hdd was old hdd failed.

Do you have original Windows 7 DVD or did you make a Recovery DVD ( means a bootable DVD that you created using Windows7 back-up software ) before HDD crashed, or have you created an image of the system on DVD?
If so, you can use original Windows 7 DVD or your Recovery DVD to reload the operating system on the new HDD, or probably the better option would be to load the disk Image as this will reload Windows in the exact state it was in when the image was created. You simply in BIOS set computer's boot order to DVD.

If not so, then order the operating system recovery disc set that will have the operating system, all correct drivers and utilities for the laptop .
Recovery disks from Toshiba are cheap and a lot easier as they have all the drivers and utilities built into them.

EDIT:

If you have a valid Windows 7 product key, you also always legally can download a copy of Windows 7, if you don't have the DVD - or lost it. To use such an original copy is highly recommended to get rid off all those nasty apps OEM put in his distribution of Windows 7.

Windows 7 Iso Home Premium incl. SP1:
32-Bit bootable:
64-Bit bootable:

Windows 7 Home Premium - x86 (32-Bit):
english:

Windows 7 Home Premium - x64 (64-Bit):
english:

Windows 7 Home Premium N Version:
x86 (32-Bit):
x64 (64-Bit):

Windows 7 Professional incl. SP1:
32-Bit bootable:
64-Bit bootable:

Windows 7 Professional - x86 (32-Bit):
english:

Windows 7 Professional - x64 (64-Bit):
english:


Windows 7 Professional N Version:
x86 (32-Bit):
x64 (64-Bit):

Windows 7 Ultimate incl. SP1:
32-Bit bootable:
64-Bit bootable:

[jwoegerbauer]

Laptop is 2yrs old. I'll take a look in bios and see whats available. I did hit the F9 key to set to default today.

Laptops manufactured 2011 and later and having a 64-bit CPU always are equipped with an UEFI-bios.

NEVER turn such an UEFI-bios into MBR-mode! Doing so you will lose all the advantages an UEFI-bios offers and Windows 7 64-bit version relies on.

If your HDD isn't GPT-formatted then just boot to Windows 7 64-bit Setup-DVD, select clean install and Windows 7 64-bit will do all the work for you. It will reformat the drive and give you a clean install.

[jwoegerbauer]

can-t-do-fresh-install-windows-7-64-bit
...
so u either need to make a gpt bootable disk

If the HDD isn't already GPT-formatted then just boot to Windows 7 64-bit Setup-DVD, select clean install and Windows 7 64-bit will do all the work for you. It will reformat the drive and give you a clean install.

[Philquad]

dont you need a gpt made os install?
when i make bootable usb's, theres a difference between gpt & mbr

[Philquad]

1 thing you cannot do is, if you have partitions you want to save, you cannot make a gpt partition as well on the same drive

[jwoegerbauer]

If questions on new GPT-format remained, one should read

[Philquad]

whod believe microsoft lol
for most ppl, gpt just aint worth the drama
most ppl cant even work out the bios\uefi function for a start
ive done seval brand new laptops lately with the new "uefi" bios, win 8
takes 1 minute to boot because of bloatware for a start, who wants that crap
if win 8 & uefi is so good, why is win 7 still dearer then win 8? work that out
tell me joey, how many computers do you fix per week?

[forbirun]

I formatted the drive (not gpt) externally but it is wanting a driver. So should I create it as dynamic maybe?

[jwoegerbauer]

tell me joey, how many computers do you fix per week?

Past 3 months fixed/re-configured 4 brandnew OEM laptops with Windows 8 64-bit pre-installed (2 x ALDI, 1 x Lenovo, 1 x HP), this is equivalent to 0.3 laptops per week.


Recap:

Although GPT is associated with (U) EFI, the two aren't the same thing, and it's possible to use GPT on a BIOS-based computer or MBR on an (U)EFI-based computer. Windows, though, does tie the two together for its boot disk: Windows will boot from MBR disks only on BIOS-based computers (or when using CSM/BIOS/legacy mode on an (U)EFI-based computer) and from GPT disks only on (U)EFI-based computers.

That's true for Windows 7 and Windows 8.

[Philquad]

what you say is correct, although, its not fixing his problem

boot to a win dvd or whatever, pick custom install, delete any partitions on the drive, make a new one or just leave it whole, install
it shouldnt need a driver

ps. i do installs at least 3 a week

[jwoegerbauer]

I formatted the drive (not gpt) externally but it is wanting a driver.

If you are alerted "CD/DVD drive driver is missing" or anything, then you probably are using an unsigned driver.

What in the ####ing hell are you doing with your computer that would require you to #### with it so much? I'm really at a loss! Most of us use unsigned drivers all the time and never have to do anything weird to get them to work other than click "Ok" when Windows tells us this is an unsigned driver.

Whenever installing Windows 7 via DVD, and within the installation process you are alerted "CD/DVD drive driver is missing" or anything, then you can try to disable driver signing checking when your computer starts up - of course only if UEFI or BIOS allows such a change in its settings.

Might be on Windows 7 64-bit machines, at least that's true on my 64-bit Windows 8 laptop, you have to hit [F8] during boot and tell Windows to turn off device signature checking. If done so, optical device should come up. Not sure if it's something that Lenovo built into my laptop, or something in Windows itself.

Useful thread:

P.S.:

Because you always only provide very, very vague informations here I currently can't give more help to you. And I'm NOT willing to waste more time in this.

Perhaps @philquad will do? His computer knowledge is at least ten times of mine - measured in pieces.

[Philquad]

your pretty good at dos though joey

i bet his using a usb install?

try a dvd if so

[jwoegerbauer]

i bet his using a usb install?

Windows 7 Setup comes on a DVD. OP was told to use the DVD. He never was told to perform an external HDD-formatting. He never was told to use (outdated) MBR-format - as he did. He ignored that MBR-format is NOT the native format used by Windows 7 64-bit.


Yes, you never know what goes on in their heads ...

[forbirun]

Settle petal! No need to crap on or flame me on this thread because ur having a bad day. I appreciate input but don't need the BS! I was frustrated and managed to post this thread. and FYI I have had plenty of experience with installing windows os dating back to windows 3.11 and even DOS. I have these moments when Im at a loss when things don't function correctly. And this is what has happen on this occasion.
I ask questions when I need assistance in giving me clues when my troubleshooting skills have been exhausted. You gave me the answer I was hoping for.
Thank you
Problem sorted with toshiba laptop. I assume it has a problem with the motherboard. In the bios, the hdd and dvd burner occasionally disappear And sometimes the dvd burner shows up with a a letter.
Thanks for all your replies
forbirun
ps.I mean this is a forum I have been a member of since I think 2001 brother