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Windows XP Warned
Businesses relying on Windows XP are being warned the operating system is no long supported by Microsoft, exposing them and their customers to potential security risks.
There will be no further software updates, security patches, bug fixes or service packs. Business users are the most vulnerable to exploitation because of the customer information they hold and the number of interactions they conduct.Let make profit for share holders by forcing business to upgrade.... hmmm
Microsoft has been preparing the business community for this event, with their Goodbye XP site giving advice on how to manage a transition.
Windows product manager Emmanuele Silanesu explained the reasons for the changeover.
"Technology has changed a lot over the past 12 years. Many newer apps won't run on Windows XP. New hardware may not support Windows XP," he told ninemsn.
Upgrading to a supported operating system is not a trivial matter, Silanesu emphasised.
"Without critical Windows XP security updates, PCs may become vulnerable to harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software which can steal or damage your personal information and business data," he said.
"Anti-virus software will also not be able to fully protect you once Windows XP itself is unsupported," he said.
The strength of the information campaign also means that hackers looking to exploit business systems will be on the lookout for those still running XP, according to experts.
"They're going to be looking for systems that are running on XP," online security expert Pogue told Pando Daily. The moment the updates stop coming will bring "a number of vulnerabilities that [will] go unaddressed".
For businesses upgrading to a new OS, the change doesn't just mean capital outlay on a new version of Windows. According to Robert Chau, Brennan IT managed services practice manager, there are a number of things to keep in mind.
"You're not just updating an operating system," he told ninemsn. "You also have to look at legacy applications like office, point-of-sale systems and databases."
"Upgrading from XP means that a lot of these won't run anymore. Businesses need to plan around the cost of upgrading these and training staff to use them."
But it's not all cost. There could also be advantages.
"It could be an opportunity for people to improve their business processes. You can do a lot more on newer platforms and for people running older software, there could be ongoing cost savings."
Chau says that while customers will get the best lifecycle advantages from upgrading to Windows 8.1, an upgrade to Windows 7 will mean a gentler learning for staff because of the similar user interface to XP.
He did however warn that not upgrading could place companies at risk as far as their compliance requirements around protecting their customers' personal information.
"The latest privacy act really does put people still on XP at risk for compliance. Having no new security updates makes them vulnerable to compromise," he said.
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im a bit hmm on that myself
never been 1 that is big on updates ever since they let out a hacked xp
i think good security should find or block harmful things anyway, for the average user
i have a friend thats just contracted the fbi pay $100 start screen virus, again
i fixed it 1yr ago, he has no email, no docs, no nothing on there except a browser (deffo a porn freak)
so i said, ill fix it so you cant go to that site & get the virus
but he replies, its the only site i like?
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What about all the apps that currently work on XP that won't run on Win 7 and 8?
No mention about what happens to them when people 'upgrade' for the better.
of course they have
its called compatibility mode lol
i just bought a $10 toshiba lappy, new psu $15, 2x512 sd? ram $15 = $40
clean xp pro install on the 20gb drive, hell its faster than my quad core with 8000mb ram
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Ah enforced evolution
XP still works well for me and I've never been one to let 'them' auto-update my system(s). Of course many recent apps won't work with XP but many XP apps likewise won't work with later windows releases so the answer (for me at least) is multi-boot options.
Linux looks better all the time, particularly Linux mint & Ubuntu
Questionable offer: security tool for XP
Due to the end of the support of XP, the security provider "Malwarebytes" has decided to offer his protection program "anti-malware premium" for the obsolete operating system permanently. The fee-based protection solution is said to detect malicious programs based on their behavior and to so to detect previously unknown viruses or Trojans.
Note: appropriate software is only a component of a safety concept. With a program like Malwarebytes "anti-malware premium", XP is not adequately protected.
Not true at all: For example "Windows XP Mode" isn’t included with Windows 8, means Windows 8 doesn’t include a licensed copy of Windows XP. So you’ll need a copy of Windows XP and run this on a Windows 8 machine in a VM.Originally Posted by Philquad
Compatibility mode has nothing to do with Windows XP mode, they are two completely different things.
Windows 7 has Windows Virtual PC built in (or can be installed), so you can run Win XP in a VM, if you have programs that will not run under Windows 7 in compatibility mode.
Windows 8 has Hyper-V built in, so again, you can run XP in a VM if you can not run the software under Win 8/8.1.
If you are already running the programs on a Windows XP machine, then you can just use that license to activate Windows XP in the VM, unless it's OEM, then you'll have to spend three minutes searching for a corporate CD/CD Key.
It's been 12 years, you can't expect a company to supply free support/updates forever.
I know that XP programs, especially those from MS will run in Windows 8/8.1 in the so-called compatibility mode: at least all Office products. Yes, MS is backwards compatible.
All other software written for XP probably NOT.
Hyper-V only is available with Windows 8/8.1 64-bit-editions Professional & Enterprise. I can confirm this, I'm running Windows 8 Core edition. In a Windows 8 Core edition you must install "VMWare" etc. to get XP running in a VM.
BTW: I've XP running in a "VirtualBox" VM.
Last edited by jwoegerbauer; 09-04-14 at 12:00 AM.
I forgot about that, as you said, if you are running core, you'll need to use a third party VM.
This statement got me, why would you be any more vulnerable to compromise if you did not get "updates" from M$? They've had 10 years to fix the holes or maybe, just maybe, M$ has released one final "patch" that opens up some of the holes. Cynic? Moi?Having no new security updates makes them vulnerable to compromise,
chicken little has moved from the sky falling to XP!
XP has had hundreds of security updates over the years.This statement got me, why would you be any more vulnerable to compromise if you did not get "updates" from M$? They've had 10 years to fix the holes or maybe, just maybe, M$ has released one final "patch" that opens up some of the holes. Cynic? Moi?
When a vulnerability/exploit becomes known, they fix it, since they will no longer be updating XP, any future vulnerabilities/exploits will be left open, so the system will be "vulnerable to compromise".
my little brain just worked something out
old nlite (xp slipstreamer) works on win 7 even 64 bit
so i used auto patcher to d-load all the xp x86 updates since sp3, & update my old xp sp3 x86 with all the updates (except wga)
and it worked.
are updates for xp still available even though theres no future updates?
ps. i added 195-200 updates, without net framework 4
Last edited by Philquad; 09-04-14 at 02:51 PM.
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From what I have read, yes, you will still be able to install and activate Windows XP, and download the existing updates via Windows Update.
I wouldn't depend on Microsoft to support their past updates forever. Still would be a good idea to make an image of a clean install/updated XP.
Yes, support for Windows XP has now ended. Microsoft's 8 April support deadline has been and gone and the final security updates for Windows XP have now been released. Worryingly, these updates fixed two critical security flaws that would have allowed hackers to remotely execute code.
The final security fixes are part of Microsoft's Patch Tuesday update for 8 April 2014, the last time Windows XP will be included.
Last edited by jwoegerbauer; 09-04-14 at 05:16 PM.
It's more of an issue for the app developers, than MS.
Sales for OEM for XP finished in 2008 (expect for low spec netbooks), so any systems purchased with XP would be at least 6 years old. Mainstream support for XP ended in 2009, and the complete end of support date of 2014 was confirmed at that time, although had been published before.
There has been more than enough warning over the years that this date was coming for a very long time. If an app doesn't work on XP the user should really be shouting at the developer, not MS.
jwoegerbauer (09-04-14),lsemmens (09-04-14)
There may well be undetected vulnerabilities in XP even now. The issue is that the developers of "nasties" will be concentrating on the current OS and not on one at the end of its service life. How many new virii are created for Win 98 now? Many people stayed with that OS for many years past its use by day.
Philquad (09-04-14)
i've installed XP multiple times without ever turning on updates and they have and (I suspect) will run fine! O keep your AV and Spyware up to date though.
The only time those hundreds of NECESSARY updates were needed is if you were using IE or some other MS crap that the hackers exploited. And I agree use another browser! That has ALWAYS been the case. Mozilla firefox 28 and not chrome!
I like many of you have not even updated my Windows XP computers in years. I think that there are some security risks involved with Microsoft ending support for Windows XP. However, I do not think that it will an immediate threat and hackers are suddenly going to invade all devices running Windows XP. It is true that if you are running a business perhaps it is time to upgrade as not only will you get better support, You will also be able to run the latest programs in order to meet the needs of your customers. As for personal use computers, it seems that if you are ok with Windows XP and do not need the continued support and update, then you are fine to continue to run XP.
Landytrack (10-04-14)
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