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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterex View Post
    what about leaving your pc on but schedule your torrent client to only download between certain hours...

    Yes thank.you!!
    This is another option but all I was looking at is my efficiency in the way of unnecessary wastage or power and wear on a new computer. Three days ago I looked at the utorrent option of setting the timer on it to start at a given time so that's ok but all I need now is a alarm clock or timer (Joking) that actuates a plunger that presses the power button for the starting time I require. Now I'm joking but I think you get the drift whats required. Now all you other guys behave yourselves! this is a simple request we don't need to turn this into a Sh.it fight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Already tried Windows Task Scheduler?

    Quick guide here:


    OP, simply forget the WOL feature Windows 7 indeed knows of, it doesn't solve in any way your issue described in post #1

    WOL means "wake computer up remotely", i.e. wake a PC over the network from the stand by mode. Thus in your home network would have to be another PC which acts as Home Server, which is programmed to broadcast your Win7 PC at a specific time a specific byte sequence that the network card of your Win7 PC recognizes and then in turn awakes the Win7 PC from sleep.
    Will look tomorrow when I have more time. Busy today watching TV

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    actually, i tested task scheduler on my newsleech program that resumes downloading when opened, it works fine

    my pc goes to sleep every 10 minutes as its on constantly all day & needs rest, i didnt test that side of it but thats all you need to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    WOL means "wake computer up remotely", i.e. wake a PC over the network from the stand by mode. Thus in your home network would have to be another PC which acts as Home Server, which is programmed to broadcast your Win7 PC at a specific time a specific byte sequence that the network card of your Win7 PC recognizes and then in turn awakes the Win7 PC from sleep.
    No it doesn't - WOL quite literally means 'Wake on LAN'.
    WOL provides the ability to wake-up a sleeping, hibernating, or . Chances are your computer has the WOL feature.
    If the question in Post#1 still remains 'Can I Automatically Turn on a Computer at a Specified Time'

    Then the answer is Yes you can, and I see multiple solutions.

    First: You can achieve this through LAN or even Internet.

    For this, you have to open your BIOS settings and turn Wake On Lan (sometimes it's called Resume On Lan) on. But that's not enough. You have to turn Wake On Ring or Resume on Ring as well (if you have), actually this may be called differently. So you would probably need to turn ALL Wake on Lan settings in BIOS.
    Then, you use special software (I use Linux and using wakeonlan script, search in Google for Windows programs). It's easy actually you can write your own.
    All you need now is to know your MAC address. Then turn your computer on. in my case I do this: wakeonlan 00:ff:ff33 (where 00:...33 is MAC address)

    Second: (but not for a remote start up!) Windows supports on schedule power on. but in this case you need to set your Machine into Standby mode, rather than power off.

    Dependant on the router you are using (I'm assuming that while the PC is in a powered off state the router is probably on 24/7) you can set a script to sent a command, automatically.

    Another script source is
    In hindsight I should have posted my Facebook status as: "I've blown the head gasket on my 1997 XR3i" rather than "I've just buggered a 14 year old escort".
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    Actually if I can't sort this out I'm thinking of putting a electronic timer in it (momentary on off across the start pins) and set it at 11.55 pm and get uTorrent at starting at midnight. this will work.

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    You could just leave the computer on

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    what model PC are you using - the bios in particular, have a look in power management do you have Resume by Alarm or wake up on RTC options - then set it to start the PC at a particular time...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 672A View Post
    Yes thank.you!!
    This is another option but all I was looking at is my efficiency in the way of unnecessary wastage or power and wear on a new computer. Three days ago I looked at the utorrent option of setting the timer on it to start at a given time so that's ok but all I need now is a alarm clock or timer (Joking) that actuates a plunger that presses the power button for the starting time I require. Now I'm joking but I think you get the drift whats required. Now all you other guys behave yourselves! this is a simple request we don't need to turn this into a Sh.it fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 672A View Post
    Actually if I can't sort this out I'm thinking of putting a electronic timer in it (momentary on off across the start pins) and set it at 11.55 pm and get uTorrent at starting at midnight. this will work.
    Check to see if you have the option to restart after AC power loss in the bios, normally under "Power Settings", if so, timer will resume AC power at set time, PC will boot, you can then set uTorrent to start at boot, and set windows scheduler to shutdown PC at set time.
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    I agree with Dave001 and mysterex, bios would be the best way. No need to install anything that way.

    Do you know how to boot in to it Mr672A ? If not, just yell out and I am sure we can give you directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    actually, i tested task scheduler on my newsleech program that resumes downloading when opened, it works fine
    Thanks my friend.

    Said it once, and I say it again, it's the very right way to solve OP's problem.

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    But how can "task Scheduler" a windows program, turn on a PC that is already shutdown, when windows is not running?

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    i hate to agree with Joey but i agree with Joey



    umm

    maybe when he gets outa bed at 11.50 for a piss he could turn it on? na that would be silly
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    From what I understand Phil, Task scheduler should wake the PC from sleep, but from the many posts I've seen on the subject over the years, it's seems to be problematic on a lot of systems.

    As Mr 672A has mentioned he'd like to save power, the BIOS options mentioned would be preferable to putting the system to sleep, of course this all relies on the BIOS supporting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post
    But how can "task Scheduler" a windows program, turn on a PC that is already shutdown, when windows is not running?
    Of course it's right that Windows Task Scheduler only runs the jobs scheduled if Windows PC is at least in hibernation/sleeping state, not has been fully shut down. Also the WOL feature mentioned here only works if Windows PC is in hibernation/sleeping state. Should be clear to everyone: If the PC is off power, nothing works.

    In Windows Task Scheduler under tab "Conditions" at setting "Power" you simply check "Wake the computer to run this task". That's all.

    Of course you'll need a couple gig's of HDD space to enable hibernation.

    EDIT:

    In hibernation/sleeping state you will get some power draw on the order of 1-to-5 watts per PC. The costs of these "ghost load" over a year depends entirely on what your kW-hr billing rate is.

    A math example:
    3W * (1kW / 1000W) * (24h * 365) * $0.08/kWh = $2.10
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Of course it's right that Windows Task Scheduler only runs the jobs scheduled if Windows PC is at least in hibernation/sleeping state, not has been fully shut down. Also the WOL feature mentioned here only works if Windows PC is in hibernation/sleeping state. Should be clear to everyone: If the PC is off power, nothing works.

    In Windows Task Scheduler under tab "Conditions" at setting "Power" you simply check "Wake the computer to run this task". That's all.
    WOL does not require the system to be in hibernate/sleep state. It just needs to be set in the BIOS, and the WOL signal sent to the correct MAC address.

    You could use a smart phone and WOL app to send the signal to the PC to wake it up nightly, if the bios doesn't support "wake up on RTC" or "restart after AC power loss" options in the BIOS.

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    i dont think my wol is enabled
    i got it
    but your right dave, task scheduler can be buggy
    1st it give errors that i couldnt use blank password, i had to leave the "user is logged in " part
    also the drop down box, its not set to 7, rather vista
    but i did bring it from sleep with the cmd.exe command
    when mine sleeps all the fans shutdown so you would think its off

    it wants a panadol now though, coz i keep putting it to sleep then waking it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post
    WOL does not require the system to be in hibernate/sleep state.
    Joke of the day isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Philquad View Post
    but i did bring it from sleep with the cmd.exe command
    Yes to run CMD.EXE or any Windows Command File via Task Scheduler is enough.
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    I give up.

    Phil doesn't understand the difference between shutdown and sleep, yet still feels the need to reply on the subject.
    jwoegerbauer, doesn't understand how WOL actually works, yet still feels the need to reply on the subject.

    Mr 672A, you've got several options to look at, good luck.

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    Anyone mentioned using a seedbox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave001 View Post
    jwoegerbauer, doesn't understand how WOL actually works, yet still feels the need to reply on the subject.
    Might quite be.

    So the whole point of WOL is to turn your computer on remotely using the network. Obviously if your computer is actually completely off, then there's no way this can work. Thus when modern computers are turned "off", the network card actually remains on, in a (hopefully) low power state, listening for WOL packets.

    But everyone here should know that Windows 7 by default also completely powers off the network card, when shutting down the PC, thus the network card no longer remains active. At least that's my experience with Windows 7.

    This thread refers to a Windows 7 PC. This in mind I would have expected that you as advanced Windows 7 user (aren't you?) would have pointed out this restricting default Windows 7 behavior, instead of denigrating me. I would have expected that you would have told OP here, that in Windows 7 a user, who wants to successfully enable WOL-feature, also has to configure the network adapter in addition to the BIOS settings.

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    I'm giving up, too.
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