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    Default Windows 10 General Discussion thread

    Microsoft has announced that its next operating system will be offered as a free upgrade to owners of devices running Windows 8, Windows 7 and Windows Phone.


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    Having recently spent a day setting up a windoze 8.1 lappy for someone, I find that it is certainly much better than Windoze 8. I may just consider taking Billy up on the Freebie offer.

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    After the total disaster that was/is windoz 8 I'm not surprised they are offering W10 for free for one year, once bitten .......................

    I found this quote funny
    Overall, we know that about only about 10% of computers are running Windows 8 and the adoption rate among companies is similar or lower," said Frank Gillett, an analyst at the Forrester consultancy
    Similar or lower what a joke, I dont think there is a single top 500 company in the world using W8

    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    Having recently spent a day setting up a windoze 8.1 lappy for someone, I find that it is certainly much better than Windoze 8. I may just consider taking Billy up on the Freebie offer.
    I used to run W7 on my old Dull Latitude D420 (With SSD) but it ran like a 'kin DOG, slow as a wet week, so I installed Mint and it literally flies @ everything I throw @ it now
    Last edited by alpha0ne; 22-01-15 at 07:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne View Post
    I used to run W7 on my old Dull Latitude D420 (With SSD) but it ran like a 'kin DOG, slow as a wet week, so I installed Mint and it literally flies @ everything I throw @ it now
    Mint and Linux variants are fine for 'tinkerers', but they are not a viable OS for the vast, vast majority of business and home users who just need things to 'work'.

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    LOL


    The BBC link above asked UNOtelly to update my IP.
    Might be region blocked ?
    Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
    Compatibility: A word soon to be deleted from our dictionaries as it is outdated.
    Humans: Entities that are not only outdated but broken... AI-self-learning-update-error...terminate...terminate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    The BBC link above asked UNOtelly to update my IP.
    Might be region blocked ?
    It's working OK for me.
    For most of my life, I lived a delusion

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    Offer it for free... Yep. Well done Bill. You've finally realised the crap you spew forth is worthless.

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    I don't know if it was Bill's decision, but whoever decided it must have finally fathomed that all others offer their OS for free, albeit some linked to the hardware but upgrades are always free.
    Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
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    Excuse my skeptism but the only time anyone offers anything for FREE (particularly Microsoft) is because either they have will have a hard time selling it or they are losing their share of the market which they once dominated.
    I only briefly read the link but I have long held the view of 'holographic' screens being the future and now this seems another step towards that possibility.
    Once the 12 months is up, what happens then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    Once the 12 months is up, what happens then?
    Well the upgrade is free for 12 months, so if you don't take up the free offer in that 12 month period, you will need to stay with what you had or purchase the new OS W10.
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    Now it's official:

    Free Upgrade Offer

    Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year! And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.
    Found this statement here:

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    Actually wanted nothing more to say here, but

    Quote Originally Posted by hoe View Post
    the link you give above goes to a page that contains the following cut and paste:

    4. We’ll download Windows 10 to your device and notify you when it’s ready. You can cancel your reservation at any time. 1
    If you'd like to create a USB drive or DVD to download once and upgrade multiple PCs - .

    yes, a link to the media creation tool.

    talk about hoist by your own petard........
    is an absolute nonsense, in all it parts. Even if some member friends thanked you for this "useful" post. I'm sorry to have to say this.


    FYI:

    On Microsoft's page concerning "MediaCreationTool for Windows 10", the quoted link leads to, you can read



    Again: Nothing on this page is said about possibility you can use this tool also to perform an upgrade. Point.


    BTW:

    The screen



    you only get shown if you bypass Microsoft's Get Windows 10 app ( KB3035583 ) - referred to worldwide as the "Windows 10 Free Upgrade" -



    and instead use "MediaCreationTool for Windows 10" to download Windows 10 and upgrade from a Windows 7 & 8 edition to its Windows 10 equivalent.

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    The 'free' strategy is a calculated gamble for Microsoft, designed to put Windows in as many devices as possible. The company would then make up for any lost revenue by selling services such as Office over the Internet, or cloud.

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    Been down the Mint route, both Cinnamon (nice eye candy) and the Unity route. It took a lot of stuffing around to get it to talk to my dual monitors at their respective native resolutions, Cinnamon never played that game at all. I then had to muck around to get it to talk to my Printer (an older Brother Laser Fax machine). After a while, Linux then decided that none of my other computers were worth talking to so, just stopped talking to them. Which is a pity as it was meant to be predominately a print server, and I would have migrated everything else over to Mint too once I have developed some of my Mission Critical Apps for multi platform use. I needed to print an Office 2010 document in a hurry one day and the Linux box picked that time to decide that it did not like the printer. I am now running W7 on that machine without all the "headaches" of convincing Linux to play nicely. I also gave Open Orifice a fair stab at my files, after spending three weeks attempting to convince Base to return to the last edited record I gave up and re-wrote the entire database using M$ Orifice 2010 in 3 days!! I am now busy adding some bells and whistles to that database instead of running around in circles like a chook with my head cut off. Give Billy his due, most times his stuff just "Works".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drift View Post
    Offer it for free... Yep. Well done Bill. You've finally realised the crap you spew forth is worthless.
    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    I don't know if it was Bill's decision ...
    Quote Originally Posted by lsemmens View Post
    I may just consider taking Billy up on the Freebie offer.

    To keep you updated:

    On 12 September 2007 Bill Gates left officially - on the company's assembly - Microsoft, on 27 June 2008, he worked for the last time 'all day' at Microsoft.

    And, Windows 8 was released on 26 Oktober 2012.

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    Sorry I framed my question so badly but as usual I knew what I was thinking even if nobody else did.
    I meant after the 12 month trial was over, what would it cost to keep and could you clearly and completely remove it if you wanted to without any hassles or complications in doing so as sometimes things dont always work out that easy.

    Even if Bill Gates isnt personally involved now with Microsoft, he would still have a 'Fatherly' interest in the company he helped set up as well as making in sure he is still getting dividends for the shares he holds in the company.

    Has a cost been quoted if you decide to 'keep and buy' at the end of the trial period?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    Has a cost been quoted if you decide to 'keep and buy' at the end of the trial period?
    It won't cost anything if you get it within the 12 months.
    The only catch I can see is for Windows 7 users:
    There is a slight catch for Windows 7 users, however: You’ll have to upgrade to Windows 10 within a year of its release to get it for free.
    After that, Microsoft will charge you money to upgrade.
    All the same, one year should be plenty of time for most Windows 7 users to make the switch.
    Source:

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteOx View Post
    It won't cost anything if you get it within the 12 months.
    The only catch I can see is for Windows 7 users
    Users of XP and Vista are not entitled to "upgrade" for free of charge during the first year of Windows 10 release, which is expected in the summer of 2015. They have to pay from the beginning a today not known price. Workaround: Upgrade Windows XP to Windows Vista, then upgrade to Windows 7.

    Again: Users of Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 exactly have one year to free "upgrade" to Windows 10. This is done either via Windows Update or reinstall, where in the latter case you would only have to remember the current Windows product key. I highly doubt that the latter method for all OEM versions of Windows (probably 90% of all Windows installations worldwide) will be possible because the product key OEMs use regularily is not accepted in all as a valid key during the Windows's activation process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoegerbauer View Post
    Users of XP and Vista are not entitled to "upgrade" for free of charge during the first year of Windows 10 release,
    I thought that would have been pretty clear in the 1st post, since XP or Vista wasn't mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteOx View Post
    I thought that would have been pretty clear in the 1st post, since XP or Vista wasn't mentioned.
    The complete text was:

    Users of XP and Vista are not entitled to "upgrade" for free of charge during the first year of Windows 10 release, which is expected in the summer of 2015. They have to pay from the beginning a today not known price. Workaround: Upgrade Windows XP to Windows Vista, then upgrade to Windows 7.


    What is wrong with this? Please tell me.

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