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    Signal meters arent worth a damn if you dont know which satellite your pointing at.[/QUOTE]

    I know this is not the place to put this and i'm not doing the seller any free advertising, but have a look at this finder it's worth a look



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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    Not too far from Cessnock.





    What is that supposed to mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by toyboy11 View Post
    What is that supposed to mean
    Don't knock it if you don't know. I've no intention of giving you a course in Navigation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942 View Post
    Signal meters arent worth a damn if you dont know which satellite your pointing at.
    It depends on the meter.. some display the NIT (Network Identification Table) so you know which satellite you are on.

    Very useful, especially when you have the same frequencies in use on different sats.

    It's not so easy when you don't have a meter with that function, as it's easy to get signals confused, which is why tuning a transponder which is unique to a particular satellite helps locate that bird easier.

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    The box is on its way back to where I brought it from and they seem helpfull so I hope to get a new one back before Xmas!

    Yeah Gordon, it would have been good to test my mates box at my place but just a bit too much driving etc. I am fairly sure my dish is pointing the right way and I have a 10700 LNB installed so should be good to go.

    With nothing on my TV screen (no menu etc) from my faulty box I will have to wait an see.

    I am near Cessnock some good investigating there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    Don't knock it if you don't know. I've no intention of giving you a course in Navigation.

    Well thanks for dishpointer.com but the guys got a problem with his box, not his location

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    It depends on the meter.. some display the NIT (Network Identification Table) so you know which satellite you are on.

    Very useful, especially when you have the same frequencies in use on different sats.

    It's not so easy when you don't have a meter with that function, as it's easy to get signals confused, which is why tuning a transponder which is unique to a particular satellite helps locate that bird easier.
    Did you check out my post 21, if so what's your opinion on it( the finder that is)

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    MTV, I meant the $10 'Howls its Head off' type like I use, definately not a pro unit like yours or a decent unit with any sort of features to identify the satelitte.
    I stand unequivicably behind everything I say , I just dont ever remember saying it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordon_s1942
    Signal meters arent worth a damn if you dont know which satellite your pointing at.
    Also, often mentioned, it makes it easier if you select a Transponder/Polarity as the Satellite of interest that is unique to that Satellite.
    Which is exactly what they've done. Vast / 12448 V / 30000. This has been used to extol the virtues of that unit erroneously, as it is no better than a cheap Sat Finder used with the decoder or a small portable unit. " Kangput springs to mind. It's even cheaper.

    Quote Originally Posted by toyboy11 View Post
    I know this is not the place to put this and i'm not doing the seller any free advertising, but have a look at this finder it's worth a look
    Certainly not worth the money they are asking.
    And, it is false advertising stating the same can be done with other Satellites.


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    Certainly not worth the money they are asking.
    And, it is false advertising stating the same can be done with other Satellites.

    Well it might be a bit pricey but still you get a good unit and it can be programmed for different satellites.

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    An update on this.

    I sent the box back to where I brought it from and the guy testing it called me and said it was working fine! WTF!

    I asked him to test it over night and send it back if it was ok which he did and guess what, it now works fine at my place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newy1234 View Post
    The main question (forget about dish alignment) I have is can you take a brand new DSD4121 out of the box with it not connected to a dish, connect it to your TV and be able to bring the STB menu up on the TV screen?


    I hear what you are saying no probs. I am sure I have pointing in the right direction. Elevation 51.1, Azimuth (true north) +8.7, and LNB Skew 7.3 degrees.

    I got a good signal on my signal strength metre.

    For an FYI, to everyone, since no one actually answered this question is 'yes' you can connect the 4121 STB to a TV which is not connected to any dish and you will see the menu etc.

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    Interesting as I guess most would have the dish in place ready and connect the STB and turn it on and see the menu as expected rather than the other way around.
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    Talking Decoder to TV menu settings!

    Quote Originally Posted by newy1234 View Post
    For an FYI, to everyone, since no one actually answered this question is 'yes' you can connect the 4121 STB to a TV which is not connected to any dish and you will see the menu etc.
    G'Day Cobber.
    Yes you can, But only if the units are correctly connected.
    The TV source and decoder output must be set to the same protocol as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by newy12134
    If I power the STB off via the remote and turn it back it shows a channel on its screen, I have seen channel 10, 11, 21, 31 etc on there, but still nothing on the TV screen. Still no buttons on the remote do anything and nothing on the TV sceen.

    I have tried the AV output and the HDMI output connected to my TV.
    Perhaps you neglected to change the source in the TV Menu?

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    No, there was no problem with my TV settings or any user error on my part, the box just magically worked fine on the suppliers test bench!




    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    [COLOR=Blue]G'Day Cobber.
    Yes you can, [COLOR=Red]But only if the units are correctly connected.
    [COLOR=Blue]The TV source and decoder output must be set to the same protocol as well.



    Perhaps you neglected to change the source in the TV Menu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newy1234 View Post
    No, there was no problem with my TV settings or any user error on my part, the box just magically worked fine on the suppliers test bench!

    a card activation problem could appear to be a hardware problem......


    I also did post how to get to the STB Menu without the LNB connected

    Quote Originally Posted by OSIRUS; Post #10

    If you have no signal going to the STB.....

    when The STB starts to scan, I think you can stop the scan by pressing Exit (on the standard DSD 4121 STB)

    Then you can select the Menu, by pressing the menu button
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    Gents, I think some people are still not clear on what the initial fault was with my STB.

    The fault was, I could not get any output to my TV or any TV I connected the box to, from either the HDMI or the AV. This fault was not related to any dish alignment or smart cards etc.

    Due to there being no output from the STB I could not see any menus on the TV screen.






    Quote Originally Posted by OSIRUS View Post
    a card activation problem could appear to be a hardware problem......


    I also did post how to get to the STB Menu without the LNB connected

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    No, there was no problem with my TV settings or any user error on my part, the box just magically worked fine on the suppliers test bench!
    So there was no card activation problem ?

    Why did it work magically on the suppliers test bench!

    Could it be that when it did not work, pushing to many of the wrong buttons....etc confused the STB

    Glad you got it going
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    Who has called/taken something to be fixed only to have the bleedin' thing perform perfectly when being looked at ???

    Being an electronic devise there is a built in 'Show the Idiot Up' program that activates usualy on a Friday/Saturday of a long weekend or a long awaited special event is to come on and shit itself only to perform better than new when either of the above is over and the bloke who has travelled across the Simpson Desert is there with Sonic Screwdriver in hand????
    Insert one of a dozen other scenarios in place of the 2 I quoted.
    I stand unequivicably behind everything I say , I just dont ever remember saying it !!

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