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    Default DM500S setup for Legit Sky NZ card

    Looking for help to setup DM500S to read genuine Sky NZ NDS card. Have selected CCCam 2.0.9 in my PLi-based config (latest version). Can get good satellite lock on the one channel I'm subscribed to (Prime, the only reason I have it coz I can't get Prime terrestrially), but no picture/sound. Gaargh!

    When I telnet onto the box, and do CCcam -dv, I get:

    00:59:05.142 CCcam: ================================================== ====================
    00:59:05.144 CCcam: starting CCcam 2.0.9 compiled on May 17 2008@15:55:36
    00:59:05.144 CCcam: ================================================== ====================
    00:59:05.144 CCcam: online using nodeId 214efbf189ab9668
    00:59:05.153 CCcam: dvb api1 detected
    00:59:05.155 CCcam: DM56xx/500/600 detected
    00:59:05.155 CCcam: create 2 cam device(s)
    00:59:05.159 CCcam: added 0 keys from /var/keys/SoftCam.Key
    00:59:05.159 CCcam: readKeyfile: cannot open /var/keys/AutoRoll.Key or not found
    00:59:05.160 CCcam: static cw not found or bad
    00:59:05.160 CCcam: parsed 0 entries from /var/etc/CCcam.prio
    00:59:05.213 CCcam: added 510 provider names from /var/etc/CCcam.providers
    00:59:05.214 CCcam: added 4 channel names from /var/etc/CCcam.channelinfo
    00:59:05.214 CCcam: server started on port 12000
    00:59:05.217 CCcam: no working cam devices, no need to start pmthandler

    Seems that the card is just not being detected at all (17xxxx series blue card).?!
    What am I doing wrong? Should it just work by plugging in the card, or do I need to do some config somewhere? Or do I have to resort to using a Phoenix reader on the serial interface? Thanks for any help.



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    Hello garryk,

    Have you read the NDS card posts here for Oz? Maybe of some help.
    You do need to config the card slots.
    Although i see you are just using a DM500, in which case you still need to do the same.

    The below is for a DM7xxx, but should work with a DM500


    This goes in your ccam.cfg


    #N: ipaddress portnumber username password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 2

    #the following will read any card that is in any of the slots including the serial port with a phoenix
    #epsilon card must go in lower slot at front
    #gamma only works in phoenix at 6 mhz
    #------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    #these 3 lines make the server a client to itself
    N: 127.0.0.1 6666 user1 password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
    N: 127.0.0.1 7777 user1 password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
    N: 127.0.0.1 8888 user1 password 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14
    #------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    I hope i have this right, i haven't used Ccam in a long time now.... You may have to do your newcs.xml now.
    I have never heard of anyone using a Dreambox for NZ Sky yet and was hoping to hear of someone that was.....

    Good Luck mate

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    cccam should work without any additional configuration, you have got the right type of card? baring in mind only one of the two types works. Vinayr can remember what it is.

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    is the card in right way down/up ?

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    Yeah, have spent quite a bit of time trawling the posts on this forum and others, but no luck, hence my post.

    So, if my CCcam.cfg doesn't have those lines starting with N: in it, it won't stand a chance of working, right? Is that why the log says it doesn't find a working cam device? (I've been looking for a decent tutorial on how CCcam works and how to configure it, but so far haven't found one!)

    I'm putting the card in with the gold contacts down. Have tried it both ways. No diff. When I scan for "CardInfo" after changing SoftCam setup to use CCCam, I get "No card found".

    My card type is a 17xxx not a 45xx. Have read that 45xx's are preferred, so maybe I'm just aout of luck anyway?

    I can get ATR from the card on a Phoenix reader. If it doesn't work in the DB's in-built card slot, would it work on a reader attached to the the serial COM port? How do I configure the DB to tell it that I want to use that port instead?
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    N: lines are only for using cccam to client to a Newcs server - which you are not doing (yet)
    CCCam.cfg can be completely empty for some(most) local cards

    If you can see it with a Phoenix reader it might pay to try and and put some phoenix reader lines into your cccam.cfg and hook up that way

    something like these works for me..
    SERIAL READER : /dev/tts/0 phoenix
    PHOENIX READER PATH : /dev/tts/0
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    You will need a n: line to make the box a client to itself if using newcs with cccam. If you use cccam on it's own it will be a server and client to itself.

    You could try this in your cccam.cfg file if you use an external phoenix

    SERIAL READER : /dev/tts/0
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/tts/0 6000000
    CAMKEY: /dev/tts/0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    CAMDATA: /dev/tts/0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    TRY ALL CHIDS : /dev/tts/0

    you may try adding the phoenix at the end of the serial reader line as not all readers are the same (SERIAL READER : /dev/tts/0 phoenix)
    and or try changing the clock to 357000

    or if the internal reader (card contacts down)

    CAMKEY: /dev/sci0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (8 Bytes)
    CAMDATA: /dev/sci0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 (64 Bytes)
    TRY ALL CHIDS : /dev/sci0
    SMARTCARD CLOCK FREQUENCY: /dev/sci0 6000000

    and maybe try lower freq also.

    Not sure which is the best version of cccam to try. Maybe start with 2.0.5 and try the latest 2.0.11. Just some things to try. I've never used a Sky card before.

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    I know that this question is a little off topic, but can an infinity USB unlimited bet used in place of a jaycar reader on DM7020?


    Cheers.

    Mal..


    Edit..

    New Thread..
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    Quote Originally Posted by malrose View Post
    I know that this question is a little off topic, but can an infinity USB unlimited bet used in place of a jaycar reader on DM7020?


    Cheers.

    Mal..
    Why not ask the question in a new thread? Many may look at the topic here and not open the thread so you may not get a reply.

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    Re: 17xxx or 45xxx
    Early series won't work in DM500 for Sk*NZ
    You need your "dog to eat it" or similar to get new card of latest issue for it to work.

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    Thanks LeRoy Patrol and NFNovice, will try some of those suggestions out tonight.
    Zac2, are you saying it won't work at all (even externally with a Phoenix reader), or just not in the DM slot?

    Does anyone know what the difference between the two cards is internally? eg 17xxxx = PIC16F84+24LC16, 45xxxx=???

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    Why do you guys always mention all the irdeto cam keys stuff, which is not required in this case? Has no one, really read the sample CCcam.cfg and all the comments in there? It clearly show what is what.

    This is a NDS card right (not irdeto) and you simply need (not so simple with the old cards as mentioned above) the boxkey: to be added to be added to the CCcam.cfg and all the irdeto garbage (camkey/camdata etc) removed You might like to google how to make a NDS boxkey for CCcam as it is not on this site from memory.

    When you get it right you will see from shell

    CCcam -d

    1 NDS broker added

    then when you see this you will be watching Prime as you should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonc View Post
    Why do you guys always mention all the irdeto cam keys stuff, which is not required in this case? Has no one, really read the sample CCcam.cfg and all the comments in there? It clearly show what is what.

    This is a NDS card right (not irdeto) and you simply need (not so simple with the old cards as mentioned above) the boxkey: to be added to be added to the CCcam.cfg and all the irdeto garbage (camkey/camdata etc) removed You might like to google how to make a NDS boxkey for CCcam as it is not on this site from memory.

    When you get it right you will see from shell

    CCcam -d

    1 NDS broker added

    then when you see this you will be watching Prime as you should.
    Sorry boss yep I usually use irdeto cards and just cut and pasted. Doesn't hurt as then he can read both types of cards.

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    Re: Zac2, are you saying it won't work at all (even externally with a Phoenix reader), or just not in the DM slot?

    Only have experience with the internal slot. Not aware of anyone witha 17xxx working here in NZ.

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    a 45xxx card should work no worries (just checked)

    You shouldn't need to edit cccam.cfg at all, just install, plug and play.

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    Well, figured out how to generate a Boxkey, tried it but still no joy. Had some minor success with the Phoenix interface, in that I seems to be getting the
    pmthandler to run and not die, but now just getting Card initialization failures from the debug. Tried different clock speeds, still no joy.

    What would I see in the debug if I had the right config but the boxkey calculated to hex wrong? (I've seen conflicting info about whether to drop the last digit of the decimal box number before doing the conversion).

    Am beginning to think I will have to resign myself to accepting that 17xxxx cards just won't work, internally or externally, in a Dreambox. But I'm mighty curious to know what the actual difference between the two card types is, and how that explains why the 45xxxx do work and the 17xxxx don't! Anyone any clues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garryk View Post
    Am beginning to think I will have to resign myself to accepting that 17xxxx cards just won't work, internally or externally, in a Dreambox. But I'm mighty curious to know what the actual difference between the two card types is, and how that explains why the 45xxxx do work and the 17xxxx don't! Anyone any clues?
    No idea. I used to have a 17xxxx card in the other room, but it got replaced when I got a nice one of these


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    Quote Originally Posted by garryk View Post
    Well, figured out how to generate a Boxkey, tried it but still no joy. Had some minor success with the Phoenix interface, in that I seems to be getting the
    pmthandler to run and not die, but now just getting Card initialization failures from the debug. Tried different clock speeds, still no joy.

    What would I see in the debug if I had the right config but the boxkey calculated to hex wrong? (I've seen conflicting info about whether to drop the last digit of the decimal box number before doing the conversion).

    Am beginning to think I will have to resign myself to accepting that 17xxxx cards just won't work, internally or externally, in a Dreambox. But I'm mighty curious to know what the actual difference between the two card types is, and how that explains why the 45xxxx do work and the 17xxxx don't! Anyone any clues?
    try drop the last and first then convert.

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    Has anyone managed to get the 17xx cards working ?

    We have a DM500 set up with NewCS and CCam on a loopback with a known working config, but unfortunately we have a 17xx blue card and it will not read it. NewCS shows it has detected the card but prints:

    [ 21:54:30 ] [ Newcamd:51000 ] User 1 logged in, client: CCcam
    [ 21:54:30 ] [ Newcamd:51000 ] Connection from 1 to not-ready server!

    and does not work.

    Is there any option to get the 17xx cards working or do I just need to "acquire" a 45xx card ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nz_monkey View Post
    NewCS shows it has detected the card but prints:

    [ 21:54:30 ] [ Newcamd:51000 ] User 1 logged in, client: CCcam
    [ 21:54:30 ] [ Newcamd:51000 ] Connection from 1 to not-ready server!

    and does not work.
    If newcs had detected it you would no get this error. This error means you card has NOT been detected so it is not ready to serve any data to the connected client!

    Did you include the <boxkey> tag's in your newcs.xml with the box key for the card?

    And when will you guys ever learn? You do not need newcs and CCcam. CCcam will do it on its own.
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