Pli and pheonix problems

[digidude]

i have 2 7020S, both setup the same, newcs and mgcamd, both with pheonix readers. one receiver is a clone, the other is an original ive just bought

they both run the new PLi image

the clone works perfectly, all 3 card readers with no issues, the original however, wont work the pheonix

ive swapped all cables and the readers between the boxes, so i know everything works, yet in the newcs CP the pheonix isnt active

the newcs.xml was copied from the clone receiver, and just the port numbers for the readers changed

does anyone have any ideas what else i could try?

cheers

[LeroyPatrol]

That's very interesting because I've never known genuine 7025's to work with external pheonix card readers. The clone manufacturer must of 'fixed' the com port so pheonix's can be used.

Leroy

[jonc]

7020 - not 7025

[LeroyPatrol]

ah the bleary eyes at 5am lol

This doesn't help but there were some clone DM500's that couldn't run a pheonix via the serial port but could be used to flash the box with no problems. They were later updated (hardware mod) so that a pheonix worked on the serial port.

You've tried swapping everything so doesn't look good for the box

.......Leroy

[digidude]

my next choice will totaly bypass the point of paying the extra for an original, but i do have another clone here with a dead PSU, ill swap the PSU over to the clone box, and see if it then starts to work

its wierd though, as other than one being a clone and one being original, EVERYTHING else is exactly the same, and when swapped to the clone, works fine

[mborkp]

my next choice will totaly bypass the point of paying the extra for an original, but i do have another clone here with a dead PSU, ill swap the PSU over to the clone box, and see if it then starts to work

its wierd though, as other than one being a clone and one being original, EVERYTHING else is exactly the same, and when swapped to the clone, works fine

did you try usb reader on original?

[Kavakid]

If it's a serial phoenix, is the 7020 com port disabled in the menu?

[mborkp]

If it's a serial phoenix, is the 7020 com port disabled in the menu?

don't thing so. if you use serial, the com should be enabled. i think

[LeroyPatrol]

there is an option like no serial port on that you have to tick in gemini and I would think it's there for Pli. I forgot about that one. But he's mentioned that they're running new pli image so you would assume this setting is the same for both.

Leroy

[Kavakid]

Thank you Leroy....there are some knobs about !!

[digidude]

do you know where this option is please?

i dont really want 2 clones running on the same network, as when i originally tried this, it crashed the whole network as the MAC addresses are the same, you cant spoof them either (searching my old posts here brings up a thread about this) which is why i bought the original

the clone i have working has had no problems for years, but i want to run 2 gamma cards, which here will only read on external pheonix readers. if theres an option i need to enable/disable than i havent found it, and i think ive been through all the menus, even tried the debug via com tick (its labeled something like that lol)

any help on this would be great, as im totally out of ideas

[jonc]

any help on this would be great, as im totally out of ideas

In an original or a clone 7020 the gamma cards work perfect in the CI slot using a purple / Dark Blue irdeto CAM.

[digidude]

In an original or a clone 7020 the gamma cards work perfect in the CI slot using a purple / Dark Blue irdeto CAM.

cheers jonc, i want to be able to access it from my other networked receivers as well though

[digidude]

there is an option like no serial port on that you have to tick in gemini and I would think it's there for Pli. I forgot about that one. But he's mentioned that they're running new pli image so you would assume this setting is the same for both.

Leroy

can anyone help with where this setting may be on the new PLi for 7020 please?

[weirdo]

I don't think it's there with PLI digidude.
I've seen that option aswell in the past but just checked my Relook 400 (runs the same adapted PLI image for the 7020) and can't seem to find it.

[digidude]

cheers weirdo, i may try an older image, but i still cant work out how its perfect on the clone, but not on the original DMM one?

[nexus]

On my 7020 with PLI jade 3 it's

setup->system settings->debugging->enable serial debug unticked

It should be unticked by default.

[digidude]

yep, thats how its setup

heres my config from the working clone box (IP ending 9)

<device>
<name>Pheonix Nova gamma</name>
<type>phoenix</type>
<mhz>368</mhz>
<node>/dev/tts/0</node>
<parity>even</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<irdeto-camkey>0000000000000000</irdeto-camkey>
−
<irdeto-camkey-data>
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000
</irdeto-camkey-data>
<crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
−
<ipk>
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000
</ipk>
−
<ucpk>
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			000000000000
</ucpk>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>34010</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>

and heres my config from the original receiver (IP ending 21)

<device>
<name>Pheonix Gamma</name>
<type>phoenix</type>
<mhz>368</mhz>
<node>/dev/tts/0</node>
<parity>even</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<irdeto-camkey>0000000000000000</irdeto-camkey>
−
<irdeto-camkey-data>
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000
</irdeto-camkey-data>
<crypto-special>No</crypto-special>
−
<ipk>
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000
</ipk>
−
<ucpk>
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00 						00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 			000000000000
</ucpk>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>34015</newcamd_port>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<Seca-PPV>no</Seca-PPV>
<pincode>0000</pincode>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>

the only thing left to do is assume that the original receiver has a faulty com port on it , this was the ONLY reason i bought it to use

[nexus]

I see you have

<carddetect>yes</carddetect>

that works with mine but others have to have that set to 'no' for it to work. Worth a try.

[LeroyPatrol]

Is the freq correct? should it be 357? Agree with the carddetect option above as well.

Leroy