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    Quote Originally Posted by bmohsen View Post
    what card r u using, if its NDS,
    cardmhz = 500
    mhz =686

    your ecm should be 220-230ms

    cheers
    If you read any of the oscam forums they will tell you the opposite, the lower the card frequency the better the ecm times.

    As mentioned above

    Maximum frequency for this card is formally 5 Mhz, clocking it to 3.57 Mhz
    reader started (pid=1234, device=/dev/ttyS2, detect=cd, mhz=357, cardmhz=357)


    this is perfectly OK.
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    what do you suggest to improve the ecm times?
    Go with a smargo reader instead of serial reader?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonc View Post
    If you read any of the oscam forums they will tell you the opposite, the lower the card frequency the better the ecm times.

    As mentioned above

    Maximum frequency for this card is formally 5 Mhz, clocking it to 3.57 Mhz
    reader started (pid=1234, device=/dev/ttyS2, detect=cd, mhz=357, cardmhz=357)


    this is perfectly OK.
    The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear

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    Use any dual or quad 64bit processor with a bit of grunt with about 4gb of ram - compile it up yourself (a must in my book) - took my times from 800msec (32bit 4gb system) to 200msec on average and in Linux of course.
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    Oscam in a dm500 has a max of say 20 clients.
    whats roughly the max clients for oscam in ubuntu server?

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    Hey Guys,
    could you clarify something for me?
    is it possible to complie and install oscam on ubuntu 32bit server?
    When I download oscam as a trunk package such as oscam-svn2929-full-Distribution.tar.gz and then uncompress it I dont see a 32bit version. I have read on the oxcam site that 32bit version are temporarily not available, but then I read in this thread that people are compliling and running on 32 bit hardware.
    Am I looking in the wrong place to find the oscam files?
    The trunk versions I thought needed to be compliled but them im not sure as they look like binaries to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by statesmanjeff View Post
    oscam in a dm500 has a max of say 20 clients.
    Whats roughly the max clients for oscam in ubuntu server?
    max. clients=509
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    Hollly Shmoly 500 + !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by statesmanjeff View Post
    Oscam in a dm500 has a max of say 20 clients.
    whats roughly the max clients for oscam in ubuntu server?
    you can compile/make dreambox versions of oscam as many users as you like but you have to be careful of not overloading the processor LOL

    when i compile mine i compile for 64 means 61 users allowed seems to run ok, its a waste for me i only have 3 log-ins to it. but i do it cause i CAN hehe.

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    I doubt you could get anything like that on Aussie smartcard.
    DM500s Black with rear on/off switch $99 inc post , DM800 sim 82 $250 inc post, DM800SE $310 inc

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    Davo
    Are you saying that when u compile you specify the number of users you are going to connect?

    If yes how do you do that

    cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by davo View Post
    you can compile/make dreambox versions of oscam as many users as you like but you have to be careful of not overloading the processor LOL

    when i compile mine i compile for 64 means 61 users allowed seems to run ok, its a waste for me i only have 3 log-ins to it. but i do it cause i CAN hehe.
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    Did I not type in English? LOL

    I'm saying you can compile it and increase the amount of users you can have on the ppc & mips versions. YES. Im not sure why you would need to other than cause YOU CAN lol. on a dreambox you would be really lucky to run more than 4-10 connections comfortably.

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    Mate I need someone to translate your reply, It is even more ambiguous then your initial statement.

    But thanks for trying.

    Quote Originally Posted by davo View Post
    Did I not type in English? LOL

    I'm saying you can compile it and increase the amount of users you can have on the ppc & mips versions. YES. Im not sure why you would need to other than cause YOU CAN lol. on a dreambox you would be really lucky to run more than 4-10 connections comfortably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STI02 View Post
    Mate I need someone to translate your reply, It is even more ambiguous then your initial statement.

    But thanks for trying.
    f u c k YOU!

    you modify the source. its OPEN SOURCE

    hows that
    Last edited by davo; 19-08-10 at 07:45 PM.

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    Gee there is some crap in here

    1. Hardware makes very little difference to ECM times... oscam uses very little CPU/memory, how do you think it works on the low powered dreamboxes? (same code). So you don't need a dual/quad core cpu with a lot of memory.
    2. The ECM time is limited by the card/card reader/serial port timing.... the number of users will depend on what channels they are watching... there is no hard limit.
    3. Yes you can compile it on 32bit ubuntu server, use subversion to pull the latest source down. This should work on a fresh ubuntu install, compiles in usb(smargo) and web support. Doesn't matter if you don't use smargo.

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake libpcsclite1 libpcsclite-dev subversion
    cd /usr/src
    sudo wget http://cdnetworks-us-2.dl.sourceforge.net/project/libusb/libusb-1.0/libusb-1.0.8/libusb-1.0.8.tar.bz2
    sudo tar xjvf libusb-1.0.8.tar.bz2
    cd libusb-1.0.8
    sudo ./configure --enable-shared=no
    sudo make
    sudo make install
    cd /usr/src
    sudo svn co http://streamboard.gmc.to/svn/oscam/trunk oscam
    cd oscam
    sudo mkdir build
    cd build
    sudo cmake -DWEBIF=1 ..
    sudo make

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferni View Post
    Gee there is some crap in here

    1. Hardware makes very little difference to ECM times...
    As said in post I found going from a Dell Optiplex 32bit 2ghz 4gb ram box to a 64bit 2ghz 4gb machine my ecms times dropped by 300ms, maybe the newer box has better serial/usb handling, but never the less a huge drop in ecm times.

    Both running Ubuntu 9.10.
    Both boxes complied oscam locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferni View Post
    Gee there is some crap in here

    1. Hardware makes very little difference to ECM times... oscam uses very little CPU/memory, how do you think it works on the low powered dreamboxes? (same code). So you don't need a dual/quad core cpu with a lot of memory.
    2. The ECM time is limited by the card/card reader/serial port timing.... the number of users will depend on what channels they are watching... there is no hard limit.
    what are you on about?

    WHAT THE!

    why is it on a linux server (P4 2gig RAM +serial port+phoenix+sub card) running oscam ECM times are between 200-280ms?

    Run the same phoenix+sub card on dreambox's either ppc or mips and ECM times increase to 260-320ms+?

    "its the same code as you so rightly said"

    Yes a lot of the "ECM times is limited by the card/card reader/serial port" as you said, I cant disagree with this.

    BUT...... The faster processor & RAM (to a point) of a linux PC DOES reduce your ECM times on a card.

    AND if you uses a smartreader on the linux pc over a phoenix they reduce even more to the lower-mid end of what I have given as example ecm times. (This is because of the port though usb over serial)

    I have done tests on 2 identical PCs picked up 2nd hand both running linux same flavour using pheonix programmer & my sub card with 3 boxes connected all on different channels.
    I have increased the RAM & replaced the processor in one machine during tests and there is a difference in ECM times based on the processor & RAM. It is very slight between 10-18ms but that can be the difference between a glitch while viewing and NO glitch while viewing.

    On high based machines as on a dual core machine if you increased the RAM I dont think you would see a difference.

    In closing.... a linux machine with a fast processor & ample RAM does make more of a difference than you have stated.


    On a side note -

    FYI - The ecm times you see in the WEBIF are not what the client is seeing you add another 20-50ms. eg if you see this on WEBIF...

    2010/08/20 9:01:25 25936 c02 lounge (090B&000000/0BBA/6E:79E2): found (237 ms) by Bluey - FOX Sports 2

    the clients ECM time would be more like "260ms" or there about.

    its easy to test for yourself run the webif and in telnet shell run your client sending log to a file or to console you will then see what it is in WEBIF and what the client is reporting.

    Davo
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    Quote Originally Posted by davo View Post


    I have increased the RAM & replaced the processor in one machine during tests and there is a difference in ECM times based on the processor & RAM. It is very slight between 10-18ms but that can be the difference between a glitch while viewing and NO glitch while viewing.
    a 15ms decrease on a 300ms response is a 5% reduction. I'd call this a 'very little difference'

    I still believe it's got more to do with the way the OS handles timing over serial ports.

    Check the cpu and memory usage of oscam on your linux server... it's barely measurable.

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    Not on all boxes, try on a linux based 64bit dual core machine as it has all of one cpu at 100% or 50% overall as shown in top, with 1.10 or there abouts processor reading , but it is that way on a linux 32bit machine, and yes we all know why and that is why some of us are looking forward to oscam++ / oscam2
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferni View Post
    Gee there is some crap in here

    1. Hardware makes very little difference to ECM times... oscam uses very little CPU/memory, how do you think it works on the low powered dreamboxes? (same code). So you don't need a dual/quad core cpu with a lot of memory.
    2. The ECM time is limited by the card/card reader/serial port timing.... the number of users will depend on what channels they are watching... there is no hard limit.
    3. Yes you can compile it on 32bit ubuntu server, use subversion to pull the latest source down. This should work on a fresh ubuntu install, compiles in usb(smargo) and web support. Doesn't matter if you don't use smargo.

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install gcc g++ cmake libpcsclite1 libpcsclite-dev subversion
    cd /usr/src
    sudo wget http://cdnetworks-us-2.dl.sourceforge.net/project/libusb/libusb-1.0/libusb-1.0.8/libusb-1.0.8.tar.bz2
    sudo tar xjvf libusb-1.0.8.tar.bz2
    cd libusb-1.0.8
    sudo ./configure --enable-shared=no
    sudo make
    sudo make install
    cd /usr/src
    sudo svn co http://streamboard.gmc.to/svn/oscam/trunk oscam
    cd oscam
    sudo mkdir build
    cd build
    sudo cmake -DWEBIF=1 ..
    sudo make

    Can somebody Help!!

    When i follow the above commands, I get to:

    sudo svn co h##p://streamboard.gmc.to/svn/oscam/trunk oscam

    the terminal window replys with:

    bash: cd: sudo: no such file or directory

    Don't know linux 1st go at it.

    Cheers james9813
    Last edited by james9813; 20-08-10 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james9813 View Post
    Can somebody Help!!

    When i follow the above commands, I get to:

    sudo svn co h##p://streamboard.gmc.to/svn/oscam/trunk oscam

    the terminal window replys with:

    bash: cd: sudo: no such file or directory

    Don't know linux 1st go at it.

    Cheers james9813
    You must of typed 'cd' before 'sudo'. The error is telling you that you can't cd to the folder 'sudo' because it doens't exist.

    Try the command again, starting with sudo, not cd.

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