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    Default Phoenix programer

    Something I stumbled across for those with a desire to build there own phoenix








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    A component list would be useful!

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    It would be, but it wasn't with it. If it was, I would have posted it too
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    will have a look tonight if they havnt been filed off should be able to post the part numbers

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    Cool - nice artwork too.

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    Phoenix Programmer
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    This Phoneix programmer is based on the version previous released by Odin.

    Joos Design have added a better power supply and made some other small changes.

    We presume a Phoenix programmer will not be your first build, so a detailed instruction is not supplied.

    The PCB drawing shuld be downscaled to about 12 % of the original,

    make a test printout and verify you have the right distance for the IC legs.

    Download in zip

    PART LIST FOR PHOENIX PROGRAMMER

    Reference to Component.bmp

    POS NO SPEC. RS PART NO.

    __________________________________________________ ________

    1 Main board

    2 Smart Card Connector 197-1197

    3 9 Way D connector - socket 446-585

    4 Fastening Screws

    5 DC Power Connector 486-662

    6 Heat Sink - only needed for heavily use L=19mm W=13mm
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    7 5V Regulator 853-371

    8 Fastening Screw

    9 Bridge Rectifier 657-088

    10 Resistor 20K ohm 163-763

    11 Resistor 220 ohm 149-650

    12 Resistor 220 ohm 149-650

    13 Resistor 220 ohm 149-650

    14 Resistor 2K2 ohm 149-739

    15 Resistor 1M ohm 149-975

    16 Not used

    17 Crystal 3.579 MHz 226-1500

    18 Capacitor 1 uF 200-6167

    19 Capacitor 0.1 uF 115-988

    20 Capacitor 0.33 uF 116-032

    21 Capacitor 100 pF 128-168

    22 Capacitor 27 pF 128-763

    23 Capacitor 27 pF 128-763

    24 Capacitor 33 uF - only needed for heavy use 116-880

    25 LED green 590-345

    26 LED red 590-339

    27 IC 7407N 306-336

    27b IC socket 14 pin 447-314

    28 IC MAX232ECPE 225-8510

    28b IC socket 16 pin 447-320

    29 IC 74HC04N 217-5550

    29b IC socket 14 pin 447-314

    30 Secondary board, on top of smartcard connector.

    Mount everything but the secondary board, leds and ICs

    Mount top of leds into the secondary board, fasten secondary board to top of smartcard connector

    after carefully first having put the led legs through the holes in main board.

    Finally , ground yourselves to get rid of any statics and mount the ICs.

    source

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    Nice find. I wish i had of gotten into this hobby years ago where the only way to get a pheonix programmer etc was to build it yourself.
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    Interesting. Here's the schematic.


    Those who have one should consider linking pins 5, 9, 11 and 13 of the 74HC04 to ground, otherwise the crystal oscillator may occasionally stop working or go berzerk.

    Software needs to be configured for 3.58MHz crystal. You can change to 6.0MHz if you want by simply desoldering and replacing the crystal.

    Software will be blind to card presence with this interface. You should be able to add card detection simply by adding two wires:
    • from MAX232 pin 11 to the red LED's anode (adjacent to card socket)
    • from MAX232 pin 14 to DB9 pin 1

    This will give RS232 Carrier Detect = -12V when the card is inserted, which is the convention used by a lot of software. (The Jaycar Phoenix MK II's inverter modification was to make it follow this convention.)

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    nice find and nice work for details from all thanks might have a shot when bored

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    how much would the parts cost all up?
    would it be significantly cheaper than getting a jaycar phoniex package?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urban_s0ulja View Post
    how much would the parts cost all up?
    would it be significantly cheaper than getting a jaycar phoniex package?
    jaycar kit would be cheaper

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    I would need to be really bored, in fact Leonard Cohen suicidal to attempt that circuit.

    The jaycar kit wins every time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by urban_s0ulja View Post
    how much would the parts cost all up?
    would it be significantly cheaper than getting a jaycar phoniex package?
    Parts $10
    Labour 1hr @ $80

    total $90

    Buy off the shelf for $45.oo

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