Jason_dinAlt

I think fand meant here: SatTronics

z80

They definitely have stock, they receive a big shipment today.

Gizmo

Hi

BF450 TCP/IP Converter or BF430 TCP/IP Converter is better for Humax 5400, easier to install, setup etc.

Barneyboy

will this now enable us to cs a v5 epsilon without a dreambox?

Thanks Barneyboy

z80

No, because that has SFA to do with this program.
There is no solution for your problem.

aaeon.1

according to what i,ve read there is a cardshare program that will share the v5 cards
it works by caching commands in the program and only going back to the card if its a new command
its relatively new but works
how i dont know but there are articles about it on some sites at the moment

aaeon.1

off subject i know but here is some of the article that was written two weeks ago



Card sharing has caused major concern to the conditional access subscription card manufacturers, and their respective pay-tv companies, since virtually every encryption system can be shared, allowing unauthorised access. Unlike the hacking of smart cards, card sharing is relatively new, thanks to the recent increase in home internet speeds. Conditional access providers therefore have few counter measures to combat its use. One such method, used by several providers, is to greatly increase the frequency of changing the control word, used to decode the channel. With changing occurring as frequently as once every 5 seconds, this puts extra stress onto the subscription cards processor, meaning that clients are frustrated by short, but frequent, missed viewing, making viewing possible, but with extreme inconvenience. In response to this, card sharing servers have appeared that caches control words in order to prevent overloading of the smartcards processor if the same code word is requested more than once.

The future of card sharing is unknown, because it is equally unclear how widespread its use is. Many conditional access providers may see it unworthy to produce new cards to send to all subscribers, as their manufacturing costs are too high. Most probably also realize that and the additional "security" will eventually be circumvented anyway. The latest Irdeto cards for example, have been produced in a way by which card sharing seemed not possible, but now they can be shared again.


grant

z80

Oh really? tell us more, that sounds fascinating.

aaeon.1

if i knew more i,d tell you but i just cut and pasted what i read
so i,m in the same boat as everyone else when it comes to the details
sorry

streeter75

I dont think the v5.3 cards will share with any proggie, Lost alot of hair and had alot of late nights trying to accomplish this, Even tried the old splitter method with no joy.....

Jason_dinAlt

When u think about this multi emm error that V5.+ cards produce, the V5 cards must be switchable by the providers, or they wouldnt work in the mystar when recording one channel and channel surfing. Might be a thing to look for in logs, maybe back to when cs stopped working for a lot of 5.+ cards, maybe the command can be reversed

crypto7

From thing things I have seen and heard the v5.x cards are a bit smarter and DO have anti CS.
Lets have a quick review of what we do know.
1. To get pics, you need the current CWs
2. To get the CWs you need to decode the ECM for that channel.
So, if you have 2 stbs and 2 different channels then the ECM/CW pair can and will be different, so no cache in the world can help.
This means that both ECM's need to be sent to the card in order to share.

If you send the ECM for Channel A, then B, then A, then B then the V5.x cards shut down.

My guess is that the card looks at the CHID (or something) and says if it changes back and forth between 2 or more CHIDs over a short period of time... assume a share and shutdown.

It could even be a bit simpler and count the number of differnet CHIDs in 10 seconds and shut down if greater then X.

If you change the CHID, the ECM sig will be wrong and no CW.

I'm thinking that when then next card roll happens from the providers CS will be dead..... So I guess the next big thing will be sub sharing.

tech-junkie

Its got nothing to do with CHID, many channels on a card use the same CHID. V5+ cards simply track how many ecm requests are received and if it goes over a certain amount in a certain time frame then the card shuts down for a while. Ive found the maximum channels you can share is 2 different channels after that it will shut down

porkop

Ever seen a teenager flick channels around on the remote. there would be system shutdowns in nearly every household!!!!

streeter75

was about to say the same for the missus

z80

YES !!!


we have done tests that prove if you do about 15-20 channel changes on a Selectv card in a Humax...the card shuts down.


An absolute pain in the arse.

urban_s0ulja

thanks

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urban_s0ulja

just had a quick look at this proggy seems awesome.
thanks for the release.

just wondering though, does this update g.cards without the need of a humax?

cheers

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streeter75

Yes it does

Digital Doctor

Thanks very much for the program it looks very good