GW863 Mini Season & Hummy Interesting Problem

**checkitout** · 09-07-08, 11:26 PM

Hello All

I have GW863, Mini Season and Hummy working setup and have found a very interesting problem I would like to share in this forum and hopefully get some feedback as well.
I am not using a BF unit - Just a serial connection between the mini season and Grey Wolf server.

What I have found is that if I have the hummy set to any Vertical Sat Channel the setup does not miss a beat.

If I have the hummy set to a horizontal Sat channel I lose the connection between the Hummy and Grey Wolf within an hour.

I have checked the mini season 5V rail when on vertical and also when on horizontal (when connection drops out) and it is rock steady at 4.96V in both cases.

The Sat signal strength is excellent for both Horzontal and Vertical (89% +), in fact the horizontal is stronger than the vertical

Has anyone had any experiences with this and or have any suggestions as to what this problem may be.

**checkitout** · 10-07-08, 10:00 PM

OK - Looks like this problem is unique and no one has noticed anything like this before.

I will hack away at my own pace then with the current plan and theories I have to get to the bottom of this sooner or later.

Love to hear from anyone who might have some ideas where the problem is and how to fix it.

**z80** · 10-07-08, 10:42 PM

No Bf unit?

You are wasting your time with greywolf without one.

.

**checkitout** · 11-07-08, 09:01 AM

Hi z80,

Thanks, Yep I am not using a BF Unit and like what I said if I have the Hummy on Vertical Sat Channels it is rock solid.

I have no problem getting a BF unit but I unless I understand why this would make a difference I see no point in getting one.

**z80** · 12-07-08, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkitout

Hi z80,

Thanks, Yep I am not using a BF Unit and like what I said if I have the Hummy on Vertical Sat Channels it is rock solid.

I have no problem getting a BF unit but I unless I understand why this would make a difference I see no point in getting one.

The problem you have is unique to you.

it is something in your setup.

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z80

No Bf unit?

You are wasting your time with greywolf without one.

My server's running fine, and I'm not using a Bf unit, or a Humax.

**z80** · 12-07-08, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave001

My server's running fine, and I'm not using a Bf unit, or a Humax.

me too

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 12:17 PM

So we are both wasting our time then?

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 04:22 PM

OK, after the 5th PM asking what the secret is, I've decided to spill the beans.

"YOU DON'T NEED A BF UNIT"

At the moment I am currently running a Greywolf Midnight 0.071b Server, using an ADB8776 with a season hard wired in to keep it updated. All other clients have EMM's turned off.
I have also done the same thing using a Humax decoder, as a matter of fact, any decoder that will keep a Gamma card updated, and will work with a season interface, should work just fine.

Dave

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 04:23 PM

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z80

me too

I smell marketing gimmicks here

.

Chieflets

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieflets

I smell marketing gimmicks here

.

Chieflets

I smell paranoia.

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave001

I smell paranoia.

?

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 04:38 PM

Paranoia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 04:43 PM

I still don't understand your point there dave!

when i posted that i smell marketing gimmicks here about z80 posting the statement below.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
No Bf unit?

You are wasting your time with greywolf without one.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chieflets

**fandtm666** · 12-07-08, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieflets

I smell marketing gimmicks here

.

Chieflets

also could very well be that gerywolf was designed around the bf430 setup firstly and foremost in mind

**Dave001** · 12-07-08, 04:48 PM

Then quote that post mate, not the other one.

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fandtm666

also could very well be that gerywolf was designed around the bf430 setup firstly and foremost in mind

Fand it may have been very well design using a bf but also Grey Wolf is an unfinished project and i don't think we will see new rls too soon. GW still works o.k with just rs232 serial connection.

Dave - yes my mistake in quoting wrong post - but at the same time too don't get your knickers in knot over an error i made

Chieflets

**fandtm666** · 12-07-08, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieflets

Fand it may have been very well design using a bf but also Grey Wolf is an unfinished project and i don't think we will see new rls too soon. GW still works o.k with just rs232 serial connection.

Chieflets

the original greywolf was finished in doing what it was designed for
( bf430+humax+season) and when the three are used as they were intended work flawlesly.

The later gwm version is an un-finished and never to be finished project that took a different tangent with the arrival of dreams

**Chieflets** · 12-07-08, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fandtm666

the original greywolf was finished in doing what it was designed for
( bf430+humax+season) and when the three are used as they were intended work flawlesly.

The later gwm version is an un-finished and never to be finished project that took a different tangent with the arrival of dreams

Just to finish off here and not waste bandwidth - you can use it either way with a BF unit & without a BF unit. and both will work just fine.

Dave01 has witness this him self so have I. - Even z80 has it runnig without one when his been preching BF units

Chieflets

09-07-08, 11:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
checkitout Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 Spent time on board: 4 Days and 12:36:04	GW863 Mini Season & Hummy Interesting Problem Hello All I have GW863, Mini Season and Hummy working setup and have found a very interesting problem I would like to share in this forum and hopefully get some feedback as well. I am not using a BF unit - Just a serial connection between the mini season and Grey Wolf server. What I have found is that if I have the hummy set to any Vertical Sat Channel the setup does not miss a beat. If I have the hummy set to a horizontal Sat channel I lose the connection between the Hummy and Grey Wolf within an hour. I have checked the mini season 5V rail when on vertical and also when on horizontal (when connection drops out) and it is rock steady at 4.96V in both cases. The Sat signal strength is excellent for both Horzontal and Vertical (89% +), in fact the horizontal is stronger than the vertical Has anyone had any experiences with this and or have any suggestions as to what this problem may be.

10-07-08, 10:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
z80 Premium Member iTrader: (74) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 4,483	No Bf unit? You are wasting your time with greywolf without one. . __________________ Disclaimer: (all my posts are my,opinions etcetera and prone to gross errors,ommissions,lies,generalities,and more lies or prejudices as suits me on the day )

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10-07-08, 10:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
checkitout Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 Spent time on board: 4 Days and 12:36:04	OK - Looks like this problem is unique and no one has noticed anything like this before. I will hack away at my own pace then with the current plan and theories I have to get to the bottom of this sooner or later. Love to hear from anyone who might have some ideas where the problem is and how to fix it.

11-07-08, 09:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
checkitout Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 Spent time on board: 4 Days and 12:36:04	Hi z80, Thanks, Yep I am not using a BF Unit and like what I said if I have the Hummy on Vertical Sat Channels it is rock solid. I have no problem getting a BF unit but I unless I understand why this would make a difference I see no point in getting one.

12-07-08, 12:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dave001 Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 272 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 12:29:22	So we are both wasting our time then?

12-07-08, 04:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dave001 Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 272 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 12:29:22	OK, after the 5th PM asking what the secret is, I've decided to spill the beans. "YOU DON'T NEED A BF UNIT" At the moment I am currently running a Greywolf Midnight 0.071b Server, using an ADB8776 with a season hard wired in to keep it updated. All other clients have EMM's turned off. I have also done the same thing using a Humax decoder, as a matter of fact, any decoder that will keep a Gamma card updated, and will work with a season interface, should work just fine. Dave

12-07-08, 04:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chieflets Senior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 170 Spent time on board: 5:56:36	I

12-07-08, 04:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dave001 Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 272 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 12:29:22	Paranoia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

12-07-08, 04:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Chieflets Senior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 170 Spent time on board: 5:56:36	I still don't understand your point there dave! when i posted that i smell marketing gimmicks here about z80 posting the statement below. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- No Bf unit? You are wasting your time with greywolf without one. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chieflets

12-07-08, 04:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dave001 Premium Member iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 272 Spent time on board: 2 Weeks, 4 Days and 12:29:22	Then quote that post mate, not the other one.

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