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**JK200SX** · 30-11-08, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megod

Okay, I just downgraded to 120, then 121 with null Modem cable
* MAKE SURE CARD IS NOT IN BOX*
* Make sure you Connect null Modem cable to computer and box when they are both are Switched off.
* Make sure Strong has back switch turned off too, and leave it off.
* Turn computer on and load loader.
* Download should be highlighted. *NOT UPLOAD*
* COM1 should be shown.
* Now browse directory to find firmware and double click.
* Hit the connect button.
* Now turn on switch on back of BOX
* It will now count from 001 up to 100.
* then it will erase
* box will show 0000 and reboot.
* The time 10.00 should be shown on screen
* In the COM1 box where it shows start, Hit the red cross on the right to exit. "DONT HIT START"
* Turn off Computer and box at back and remove Null cable.
* Put card back in, power up and start
ALL done.
cheers

megod

Megod,

Just to understand:

1. You are using firmware version 1.21?
2. You have a V2 Gamma?
3 And it is updating and running with no problems?

Is this the scenario that I hear,or amInot getting something?

**beer4life** · 30-11-08, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JK200SX

Megod,

Just to understand:

1. You are using firmware version 1.21?
2. You have a V2 Gamma?
3 And it is updating and running with no problems?

Is this the scenario that I hear,or amInot getting something?

G'Day,
My card went belly up after 2 days in another box where it had been unattended (on) for 3 weeks, and was resurrected by reboot.
Fired up 4658X with FreeCAM2-020. Came good after 30 mins, but died after 2 days.
Followed "megod" 's instructions.
No good in Cam, but came to life within a sec or so in card slot.
Tried again in CAM, but died after 1 minute.
Returned to card slot, all OK within sec or so.

I've only done the one update as per "megod", no other fixes or wanking has been done. Card running cool, but need to check if this has card reader mod. Bought from another member just before I went AWL.
Crikey, took me 2 days to read this thread, kept nodding off, too much repetition instead of searching and reading by the "GIMMES".

PS: To iterate, it is not pin 17 on the Card Reader to lift and earth, it is in fact pin 3. Confusion arose from early posts on this mod to the card readers.
I do hope this clarifies the current fix, without stealing "megod" 's THUNDER.

Kindest Regards, " The Druid ". ......

**vk6xlr** · 30-11-08, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer4life

PS: To iterate, it is not pin 3 on the Card Reader to lift and earth, it is in fact pin 17

Why would you earth pin 17 when it supplies Vcc to the card reader?
Pin 3 selects what pin 17 supplies to the reader, ie 5V when tied high, 3V when tied low.

**goldfinder** · 30-11-08, 12:39 PM

This if from a known Strong 4658X 3v Mod. 100% working. Sure looks like pin 3 to me.

Edit : Image thumbnailed , please use the image uploader built in to quick reply and use the " thumbnails for forums1 " code.
Thanks
Sanity

**sublib25** · 30-11-08, 12:39 PM

Been addressed already.
Well it was, now is incorrect.
Count starts from key and runs anti clockwise.
IT IS PIN 17 for the last time.

**z80** · 30-11-08, 12:43 PM

red to black, green to blue.

blue to bits.....

easy to mistake the pad seperator between pins 15 and 16 as a denotion of pin 1, but it ain't....

I guess it's pin 3 from both angles but one goes through a resistor....

Nice soldering ....

**beer4life** · 30-11-08, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vk6xlr

Why would you earth pin 17 when it supplies Vcc to the card reader?
Pin 3 selects what pin 17 supplies to the reader, ie 5V when tied high, 3V when tied low.

G'Day, thanks for the correction. I've corrected my post. Here's the reference:

Quote:

If we examine the card reader PCB on the 4658X - then we will see that pin 3 is at +5V - as expected ... to change the mode of operation of the card reader to +3V - we need to tie pin 3 to GND ...

WARNING : No we don't just 'tie' pin 3 to GND ... we need to unsolder the pin - 'lift' it so it does not touch any other tracks ... and finaly 'tie' the naked pin 3 to GND ...

See this Thread:

How to run your gamma at a cool +3V - with a 'factory' mod

Many Thanks, Kindest Regards, " The Druid ". .......

**vk6xlr** · 30-11-08, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sublib25

Been addressed already.
Well it was, now is incorrect.
Count starts from key and runs anti clockwise.
IT IS PIN 17 for the last time.

No. The dot on IC is pin 1, hence where the blue wire is, as per the above photo, that is pin 3.

**sublib25** · 30-11-08, 01:22 PM

I stand corrected, yes it is pin 3 by the data sheet.
I will just state that some chips have a moulding mark that is easily mistaken for the "key".

**beer4life** · 30-11-08, 01:37 PM

G'Day Guys,
Well, at least I woke up a dead thread.
Another nail in my coughin'.
Here's the data sheet, before someone rams it down my throat.
Kindest Regards, " The Druid ". .......

**goldfinder** · 30-11-08, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the compliment on the soldering Z80. Used to chip a playstation or two so had loads of experience. Usually drink 3 beers prior to starting. Steadies the hand.

**JK200SX** · 30-11-08, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JK200SX

Megod,

Just to understand:

1. You are using firmware version 1.21?
2. You have a V2 Gamma?
3 And it is updating and running with no problems?

Is this the scenario that I hear,or amInot getting something?

OK now getting back to the question..... for Megod....

**Jason_dinAlt** · 30-11-08, 06:42 PM

FFS this thread is about whitey, not bloody Strongs, post your Strong issues in "Decoders"

**Fernbay** · 30-11-08, 06:43 PM

#1294

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason_dinAlt

FFS this thread is about whitey, not bloody Strongs, post your Strong issues in "Decoders"

**megod** · 30-11-08, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JK200SX

Megod,

Just to understand:

1. You are using firmware version 1.21?
2. You have a V2 Gamma?
3 And it is updating and running with no problems?

Is this the scenario that I hear,or amInot getting something?

JK200SX, Spot on. I am using firmware V1.21. I am Using V2 GAMMA. Card updating fine, so the firmware V1.21 Pretty much sorts it out. Occasional I need to either turn box off by remote.... or pull card in and out of the Strong's Conax slot. And that gets get it going again. Both do the same thing, and it goes strait away. It will not work in my other cams, which is a bit of a bugger. I am still waiting for the update. Still hunting, for the homeless guy.

**beer4life** · 30-11-08, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason_dinAlt

FFS this thread is about whitey, not bloody Strongs, post your Strong issues in "Decoders"

G'Day,
Why single out Strongs?
Probably more than a dozen decoders mentioned throughout this thread.
I've read it from go to whoa, and methinks the cause of dead whiteys was narrowed down by co-relating the experiences from that plethora of boxes.
Seems most of this info is applicable to all boxes using whiteys.
To sum it up, the flood of bogus updating was overloading the cards.
Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

**Jason_dinAlt** · 30-11-08, 07:26 PM

everything you say is true beer4life, but lately this thread has become a how to fix your strong thread, not whiteyv2 being down again thread

All im saying is take the strong flashing/wanking/card reader mods stuff to decoders

**LeroyPatrol** · 30-11-08, 07:43 PM

It's a case of new topic deserves a new thread.

Leroy

**JimBoSS** · 06-12-08, 07:41 PM

i had my strong 4635x running with 1.21 for a while now but the box was switched off accidently and now the card wont work. its still a V2 but i can't get it going, have tried it in another box and no joy.

i dropped the box back to 1.20 but its not doing anything anymore (it used to get pictures ever 10 mins or so) but nothing now.

any 1 have any ideas how to kickstart the card so it will work with 1.21?

**Hillsbysa** · 06-12-08, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBoSS

i had my strong 4635x running with 1.21 for a while now but the box was switched off accidently and now the card wont work. its still a V2 but i can't get it going, have tried it in another box and no joy.

i dropped the box back to 1.20 but its not doing anything anymore (it used to get pictures ever 10 mins or so) but nothing now.

any 1 have any ideas how to kickstart the card so it will work with 1.21?

Yup, soon as the power goes you're history...

30-11-08, 12:39 PM	#1284 (permalink)
goldfinder Junior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Spent time on board: 8:49:52	This if from a known Strong 4658X 3v Mod. 100% working. Sure looks like pin 3 to me. Edit : Image thumbnailed , please use the image uploader built in to quick reply and use the " thumbnails for forums1 " code. Thanks Sanity Last edited by Sanity : 30-11-08 at 12:50 PM. Reason: As above

30-11-08, 12:39 PM	#1285 (permalink)
sublib25 Middle aged Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My House Posts: 192 Spent time on board: 1 Week, 2 Days and 15:25:35	Been addressed already. Well it was, now is incorrect. Count starts from key and runs anti clockwise. IT IS PIN 17 for the last time. Last edited by sublib25 : 30-11-08 at 01:06 PM. Reason: Incorrect now

30-11-08, 12:43 PM	#1286 (permalink)
z80 Premium Member iTrader: (94) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Victoria Posts: 4,952	red to black, green to blue. blue to bits..... easy to mistake the pad seperator between pins 15 and 16 as a denotion of pin 1, but it ain't.... I guess it's pin 3 from both angles but one goes through a resistor.... Nice soldering .... __________________ On vacation....

30-11-08, 01:37 PM	#1290 (permalink)
beer4life The Druid. iTrader: (2) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Nether World. Posts: 862 Spent time on board: 2 Months, 2 Weeks, 3 Days and 4:26:30	How I hate eating humble pie. G'Day Guys, Well, at least I woke up a dead thread. Another nail in my coughin'. Here's the data sheet, before someone rams it down my throat. Kindest Regards, " The Druid ". ....... __________________

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30-11-08, 01:22 PM	#1289 (permalink)
sublib25 Middle aged Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My House Posts: 192 Spent time on board: 1 Week, 2 Days and 15:25:35	I stand corrected, yes it is pin 3 by the data sheet. I will just state that some chips have a moulding mark that is easily mistaken for the "key".

30-11-08, 02:45 PM	#1291 (permalink)
goldfinder Junior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 25 Spent time on board: 8:49:52	Thanks for the compliment on the soldering Z80. Used to chip a playstation or two so had loads of experience. Usually drink 3 beers prior to starting. Steadies the hand.

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Jason_dinAlt Senior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 423 Spent time on board: 6 Days and 9:02:54	FFS this thread is about whitey, not bloody Strongs, post your Strong issues in "Decoders"

30-11-08, 07:26 PM	#1297 (permalink)
Jason_dinAlt Senior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 423 Spent time on board: 6 Days and 9:02:54	everything you say is true beer4life, but lately this thread has become a how to fix your strong thread, not whiteyv2 being down again thread All im saying is take the strong flashing/wanking/card reader mods stuff to decoders

30-11-08, 07:43 PM	#1298 (permalink)
LeroyPatrol Premium Member iTrader: (14) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,782 Spent time on board: 2 Months, 0 Weeks, 2 Days and 7:59:56	It's a case of new topic deserves a new thread. Leroy

06-12-08, 07:41 PM	#1299 (permalink)
JimBoSS Junior Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 22 Spent time on board: 1 Day and 7:05:03	i had my strong 4635x running with 1.21 for a while now but the box was switched off accidently and now the card wont work. its still a V2 but i can't get it going, have tried it in another box and no joy. i dropped the box back to 1.20 but its not doing anything anymore (it used to get pictures ever 10 mins or so) but nothing now. any 1 have any ideas how to kickstart the card so it will work with 1.21?

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