Donald Trump

**Skepticist** · 21-01-21, 10:55 AM

Creating a spinoff of Republican to Trump/Patriot/whatever party would only be splitting the existing supporters so the likely only option for success would be a coalition of those parties and they still need to win over 50%+ of the electorate. If the Biden presidency manages to make proposed changes to the electoral college the Republican party cannot afford to have a split as they haven't managed to win the popular vote in the last 2 elections.

They need to rid themselves of Trump and trumpism in order to win over the populace.

**bob_m_54** · 22-01-21, 04:07 PM

And true to form, he didn't attend Biden's inauguration, and slunk off like the spoilt little sook he is.. You yanks are well to be rid of him.

**Uncle Fester** · 22-01-21, 08:25 PM

A lot of ppl will suffer withdrawal symptoms not seeing Trump everyday in the news anymore.

I will not.
More interesting to see how Biden tackles all the problems Trump left behind and so far looks very promising. Great strategies to tackle the virus and vaccination distribution issue using the Defence Production Act but most important everybody can now work together with nobody from the top impeding them.
Maybe 100 million in a 100 days is a bit ambitious but there won't be vaccines expiring on the shelves as they were under Trump's operation 'warp speed'.

**RogerTheDoger** · 23-01-21, 03:46 AM

I'll certainly enjoy watching the news without the details of the truculent self indulgent behaviour of the man on display.

In fact the only things I'll enjoy hearing about him now will include some or all of the following:-
1) his conviction and hopefully jailing.
2) his bankruptcy.
3) his divorce.
4) his suicide. (I don't say this lightly, in fact it is something I normally would not wish on anyone, but in his case I'll make an exception)

I believe all of the above are possible.

**mtv** · 23-01-21, 09:46 AM

Under the bus, Trump goes.

Attorneys representing people arrested in connection to the Capitol riot are taking aim at former President Donald Trump.
They're laying the blame at his feet for inciting the deadly siege by spreading disinformation about the election.

Have to wonder if he'll try to use his usual excuse when called out for his words and actions... was only joking?

Jeffrey Cramer, a former federal prosecutor who spent 12 years at the Justice Department, didn't mince words when addressing the allegation.

"This goes directly to Trump's impeachment trial" and any potential criminal case against him, Cramer said. "His words and actions for months directly led to an armed and deadly insurrection at the Capitol. He can't argue that nobody took him seriously or that his words didn't provoke violence."

**Uncle Fester** · 23-01-21, 10:47 AM

Now that nobody in the Republican party needs to be scared of being fired if they don't support Trump, it will be interesting to see how many still support him in the trial.

Personally I think it would be better to delay this until more criminal investigations pop up against Trump, like money gained while being in office and false declarations to banks when his tax affairs are finally revealed.
Then we can more clearly see that those Republicans are supporting a corrupt, anti democratic criminal and therefore just as corrupt and antidemocratic themselves, which I do not question already but that needs to be proven of course.

**mtv** · 23-01-21, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Uncle Fester

Now that nobody in the Republican party needs to be scared of being fired if they don't support Trump, it will be interesting to see how many still support him in the trial.

Given Trump is said to be considering starting his own (Patriot) party, in opposition to the GOP, it would be in the GOP's best interest to convict him and vote to prevent him from running for any office again.

Trump has only ever and will always only ever, care about himself. Nothing and nobody else matters to him.

Loyalty will always be one-way with him.

It's astonishing how so many still believe he cares about them.

**allover** · 23-01-21, 11:36 AM

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It's astonishing how so many still believe he cares about them.[/QUOTE]

yep, just read 63% (if the article can trusted) of Republicans, approx 1/3 of voters

**OSIRUS** · 23-01-21, 07:26 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump set up his own media company (with his own internet servers) his own version of Twitter etc ... ?

**RFI-EMI-GUY** · 23-01-21, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by OSIRUS

I wouldn't be surprised to see Trump set up his own media company (with his own internet servers) his own version of Twitter etc ... ?

I think folks are going to tire of him pretty soon. His failure to man up and concede at the EC certification was bad enough. The Capitol insurgency was the end of his popularity and any career. Already folks are turning against him and even the Republican party.

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**RFI-EMI-GUY** · 23-01-21, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by allover

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It's astonishing how so many still believe he cares about them.

yep, just read 63% (if the article can trusted) of Republicans, approx 1/3 of voters[/QUOTE]They are in for a surprise. It's all about the Donald. Always has been. He does not care about much else except himself and the almighty dollar. But the true believers will never give up hope. It's more a religion cult than politics.

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