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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post
    ‘Impeachment’ realistically means very little, despite all the media whoo-ha. It is the equivalent of an allegation, nothing more, despite some media incorrectly claiming he has been found ‘guilty’.

    Impeachment is made more redundant by the fact that the US House of Reps has always voted on party lines for these issues. If the proponents hold the balance, the indictment will of course proceed.

    It is similar to when there are no confidence motions in Australian parliaments. They generally begin in the Upper House, but never get through the Lower House, where the balance is held by the Government. It is a mere political stunt at the end of the day, a waste of parliament’s time. The US impeachment process is the same.

    The US Senate will find Trump not guilty. It will then be another case of him ‘beating’ charges, as he did with the last impeachment, which will do little more than add fuel to his mob who believe he is being targeted.
    I think you are not considering that 10 Republicans have crossed over and 5 have abstained in this latest impeachment.
    I wouldn't say it is impossible for Trump to be found guilty this time.

    It must be clear that the whole point of the exercise is to stop Trump from holding office again.

    However it could be done much easier without impeachment using the 14th Amendment and just simple majority:

    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post
    .............................................. which will do little more than add fuel to his mob who believe he is being targeted.
    Rightly or wrongly isn't he? They would say unfairly, the other half not...
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    Being reported from a few news sources ,

    Declassification of investigation documents ,

    Finally the Russian Hoax will be exposed for what it was ..a hoax and distraction from the killery Clinton emails



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    Is Donald Trump the worst US president ever? Historians say so
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    Scholars say Trump's efforts to overturn his election defeat, as well as his response to COVID-19, have cemented his place as America's worst president.

    It was not until 1948 – more than 150 years since the first US presidential election – that anyone tried to create a systematic ranking of American presidents.
    At the request of Life magazine, Harvard University historian Arthur M. Schlesinger polled 55 historians and asked them to rank the men who had held the presidency from first to last.
    A good read.

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    wow federal officials have said that biden suffers from serious dementia and there "appears" to be some substance to trumps claims of fraudulent votes by digital means as yet unproven ????? more questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Rightly or wrongly isn't he? They would say unfairly, the other half not...
    The question by his supporters, and there is some merit to this, is why is Trump being ‘prosecuted’ for his comments during the latest riots, when other Senators and politicians (including a current Vice-President Elect) have used more specific and inflammatory words during other prior recent riots?

    Trump is the President, so he should be held to a higher (highest?) standard. But elected Senators and other politicians should also be held to a higher standard, and when no action has been taken against the others many months after the fact, it is easy to see why Trump’s supporters hold the view he is being targeted unfairly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinekadon View Post
    wow federal officials have said that biden suffers from serious dementia and there "appears" to be some substance to trumps claims of fraudulent votes by digital means as yet unproven ????? more questions
    Biden suffers from serious dementia? What Federal Official said this? Name, date, etc. He's certainly a creepy old fart -but that's just my opinion. The only Federal Official I've heard saying that is Trump himself, and well - let's just say he's got a veracity gap to overcome.

    As far as the substance to Trump's claims - why didn't Trump's team of crack lawyers actually present any of that substance in court? If you've been paying attention, that's exactly where Rudy Giulliani & Sydney Powell said they were going to present all their evidence, because showing the little people all the actual evidence they had would have hurt their upcoming court cases.

    Again - why did Trump Under perform every other Republican running on the same ballot in those swing States he lost? Did the Dem's really cheat just bad enough to win the Presidency - but didn't bother with the rest? Did the Dems only bother cheating in the swing States?

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