Octagon Information thread SF318 SF518 SF918

**Saintaholic** · 08-03-10, 09:36 PM

Has anyone tried this:

1. OCTAGON HD SF 918: both work Old and New
2. GI-S890 CRCI HD Excellence: both work Old and New
3. NEXT YE-2000 SUPER HDTV: both work Old and New
4. Evolution INFINITY HDTV: ONLY New Remote
5. SAB Ultimate HD Super Plus: ONLY New Remote
6. ProSky_HD-S300SCI: ONLY New Remote
7. ONLIEN LN 6060 HD: both work Old and New
8. Optibox 7750 HD CICX: ONLY New Remote
9. Optibox 8750 HDCICX same as Opticum 8750 HDCICX : ONLY New Remote
10. Opticum 8750 HDCICX: ONLY New Remote
11. KOSCOM HD 7400 CI: ONLY New Remote
12. GALAXY Sat 9800 HD
13. ILLUSION MAXSH: ONLY New Remote
14. SkyGate HD: ONLY New Remote
15. DigiLine 6000HD
16. Manhattan Passion 1080 HD Vision

Refers to firmware that work on the Occy SF918HD

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**Saintaholic** · 08-03-10, 09:57 PM

Just tried the next ye. said box was not right.

also found a few more

DATE 13.12.09
PLEASE
ONLY CHANGE YOUR FIRMWARE IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING
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ENGLISH
Clone Receiver and Remote Controls that are the same
Old Remotes from SF918 and GI-890 are identical

OCTAGON HD SF 918: Both remotes the same (old and new)
GI-S890 CRCI HD Excellence: Both remotes the same (old and new)
NEXT YE-2000 SUPER HDTV: Both remotes the same (old and new)
Evolution INFINITY HDTV: Only new remote can be used
SAB Ultimate HD Super Plus: Only new remote can be used
ProSky_HD-S300SCI: Only new remote can be used
ONLIEN LN 6060 HD: Both remotes the same (old and new)
Optibox 7750 HD CICX: Only new remote can be used
Optibox 8750 HDCICX: Only new remote can be used
Opticum 8750 HDCICX: Only new remote can be used
KOSCOM HD 7400 CI: Only new remote can be used
GALAXY Sat 9800 HD
ILLUSION MAXSHD: nur neue Fernbedienung
SkyGate HD: nur neue Fernbedienung
DigiLine 6000HD:
Manhattan Passion 1080 HD Vision: Both remotes the same (old and new)
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Emu Aktivation Code
OCTAGON HD SF 918: Emu Password 9999, Child lock 0918
GI-S890 CRCI HD Excellence: Password 0000
NEXT YE-2000 SUPER HDTV: Password 1234, STB Info by Swithed off Emu, Child lo
ck 8503
KOSCOM HD 7400 CI: Password: 7771
SAB Ultimate HD Super Plus: Password 1117 or 0000
Evolution INFINITY HDTV: Password 0000, Child lock 9876
ProSky_HD-S300SCI: Password 0000
ONLIEN LN 6060 HD: Password 0000
Optibox 7750 HD CICX: Password 2320
Optibox 8750 HDCICX: Password 2320
Opticum 8750 HDCICX: Password 2320?
GALAXY Sat 9800 HD:
ILLUSION MAXSHD: Password 0000
SkyGate HD: Password 0000
DigiLine 6000HD: (had Octagon SF918 Software on when Sold ???) Password 2320??
Manhattan Passion 1080 HD Vision: Password 2142, STB Info by Swithed off Emu
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Boot in Receiver
OCTAGON HD SF 918: Boot 0015
GI-S890 CRCI HD Excellence: Boot 0020
NEXT YE-2000 SUPER HDTV: Boot 0030
KOSCOM HD 7400 CI: Boot 0012
SAB Ultimate HD Super Plus: Boot 0018
Evolution INFINITY HDTV:
ProSky_HD-S300SCI: Boot 0006
ONLIEN LN 6060 HD:
Optibox 7750 HD CICX:
Optibox 8750 HDCICX:
Opticum 8750 HDCICX:
GALAXY Sat 9800 HD:
ILLUSION MAXSHD:
SkyGate HD:
DigiLine 6000HD: Boot 0007
Manhattan Passion 1080 HD Vision: Boot 0001

gives me something to do when there's nothing else

**Saintaholic** · 08-03-10, 10:17 PM

Also found this. Could explain why 2 firmwares wont load for me via USB

HOW TO DO..
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1. Turn Receiver OFF at the back
2. Open "GisOct.exe Proggie..... Choose correct S/W Version and Com-Port.
(SW-Down/Boot-mode Status)
3. Turn Receiver ON.. PRESS and HOLD the Channel Down Button.
4. While still HOLDING the Channel Down Button Start the S/W Download and wait until it ENDS.

You might have to try this several times before the Download Starts.

IN some Cases you may have to Load the Last Original S/W Version first before you have success..!!
TRY without first if you are NOT successful then Load the Original S/W for your Box and try again.

The "GisOct" Proggie ONLY has 2 Settings to choose from..Octagon and GI so if for example you have a SAB then use the Octagon Setting to Load the Octagon S/W ..OK
Again same thing TRIAL and ERROR here Guys.If it does NOT work with one Setting try the other.!!

there are 2 files to do this, but i cannot uplaod here so i hope you can find them by google
GisOct this is the program
Clones und Fernbedienung.doc and some documentation about it

and also this

Gisoct doesnt work on clones which are not firmware identical to Octagon or Golden Interstar.

Debugging unearthed the following:

In general the firmware update process on Octagon and clones works as following:

Any update program sends first the version number of the to-be-downloaded firmware to the box and the box checks whether the firmware is compatible. If so download proceeds.

The Gisoct tool sends "fake"/preprogrammed version numbers to the box, either Octagon or Golden Interstar - the version number of the new firmware actually loaded into Gisoct is disregarded.

It is possible to load firmware into clones with STBlink or OctagonSoftTool if one patches the firmware with the version number of the clone, because these programs transmit the actual firmware version of the new/loaded firmware. However according to my experience this bricks the clone. After flashing only "boot" appears on the display.

The way forward would be to patch the Gisoct software or STBLink or OctagonSofttool so that these transmit the firmware version of the clone.

Gisoct is packed with aspack (aspackdie unpacks it), however even after unpacking it not possible to see the places where it needs to be patched. I guess the firmware version strings for Octagon and Golden Interstar are encrypted.

**slippery49** · 09-03-10, 03:00 PM

s with the SF918 you can load the firmware listed on the above decoders??

can you ftp to box what are login details

**hoe** · 09-03-10, 10:22 PM

Octagon are doing a trade in deal with the sf918 on the new models......

PDF link below.....

anyone have a 1008 ?

what cards does it work with, and which firmware ?

**LeroyPatrol** · 10-03-10, 08:33 PM

An attractive offer for those complaining that Octagon aren't looking after their 918 customers!

Leroy

**bob_the_builder** · 11-03-10, 04:15 AM

so CC cam doesnt work with this unit -

what a bummer - not buying an octagon then i guess

**crusty180** · 11-03-10, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by hoe

Octagon are doing a trade in deal with the sf918 on the new models......

PDF link below.....

anyone have a 1008 ?

what cards does it work with, and which firmware ?

Very tempted to take them up on this.

Probably won't happen for me though as I bought mine secondhand from a fellow forum member and I'm not sure if he still has the receipt.

**fred121** · 12-03-10, 05:03 PM

The trade in looks interesting but I'm not sure about sending it back to de

**satdancer** · 12-03-10, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by fred121

The trade in looks interesting but I'm not sure about sending it back to de

Shipping cost both to Germany and back in addition to the trade in charge reduces the value of the offer a fair bit.

**checkitout** · 12-03-10, 08:41 PM

So trade in my useless 918 and then pay more money for something that is not much better... well that seems silly

**shlocker** · 12-03-10, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by checkitout

So trade in my useless 918 and then pay more money for something that is not much better... well that seems silly

I am very curious, Why do you say 918 is useless? Where does it fail?
Its just a receiver after all.
Yes its disappointing that firmware upgrades have stopped since December, but since the early versions I cant see much difference to the latest. Very minor, and the firmwares were never intended to support users in Australia. If they did it was just a fluke.

**fred121** · 13-03-10, 08:11 AM

Shipping costs kill this deal about 65 euro each way, about 200 oz just to get it there and back. You can buy a new one for 575 locally

**LeroyPatrol** · 13-03-10, 09:21 AM

I reckon some of you guys get a little hung up on regular firmware upgrades. Why do you need them to be so regular? Yes I know there are a few lacking FF FR PVR functions. But that aside, if another was never to appear is the box then rendered useless? No not at all. Other manufactures put out updates and not all that regular and then finally stop supporting a product. Strong do the same and has stopped them for the 4658x. The Occy has been out for a couple of years now so I would expect them to eventually stop!

Leroy

**fred121** · 13-03-10, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by LeroyPatrol

I reckon some of you guys get a little hung up on regular firmware upgrades. Why do you need them to be so regular? Yes I know there are a few lacking FF FR PVR functions. But that aside, if another was never to appear is the box then rendered useless? No not at all. Other manufactures put out updates and not all that regular and then finally stop supporting a product. Strong do the same and has stopped them for the 4658x. The Occy has been out for a couple of years now so I would expect them to eventually stop!

Leroy

My 918 still does all I want so I don't see the need to change, HD is HD no matter what receiver you use

**bambbbam** · 13-03-10, 02:11 PM

I still reckon it gives the best picture of any box and that's the best measure.

**satdancer** · 13-03-10, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by fred121

Shipping costs kill this deal about 65 euro each way, about 200 oz just to get it there and back. You can buy a new one for 575 locally

You can import one direct from Germany for much less than that:

241.78 Euro (including DHL shipping and Paypal fee) is roughly AU$371
If you accept the trade in you're basically sending it back to Germany for scrap value since you could keep the 918 and buy a brand new 1008 for not much more.

**checkitout** · 13-03-10, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by shlocker

I am very curious, Why do you say 918 is useless? Where does it fail?
Its just a receiver after all.
Yes its disappointing that firmware upgrades have stopped since December, but since the early versions I cant see much difference to the latest. Very minor, and the firmwares were never intended to support users in Australia. If they did it was just a fluke.

CCcam client is still touch and go.
The Fast Forward and Fast Reverse is lacking as well.
I find the menu and channel selection is also crap.

While the box still works as a receiver I find myself using the dreams more often and this one then sits in the corner. The rest of the family report much of the same. I wish I had never bought the thing...

**shlocker** · 23-03-10, 12:04 AM

Has anyone managed to find a good video converter to convert the .ts files from an Octagon recorded hard drive?
I have tried a few with various settings but I cant keep the 5.1 audio with any of them. I would like to keep the HD video and the 5.1 audio to play back on a media player.
Unfortunately my media play will not play the octagon .ts files.
I have tried AVS converter & xilisoft.
I have yet to try Total Video converter, I shall try that next.