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    Default Usals & correct starting point ??

    Hi all.

    Going to try playing with my H-H & Usals this week.

    What I'm wanting to check on is whats the "correct" or best starting point for the motor etc.

    Get correct location details & input to decoder.

    Start the H-H in any position OR should I manually drive the motor to "0" & then let usals start from there

    does it all matter , will the location determin what the usals / motor do initially ??

    thanks for all the help..



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    USALS will assume your motor is set to the true North at it's zero position.
    So it doesn't matter where you start, as long as you have entered your location correctly, the motor will move accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *fergs* View Post
    Hi all.

    Going to try playing with my H-H & Usals this week.

    What I'm wanting to check on is whats the "correct" or best starting point for the motor etc.

    Get correct location details & input to decoder.

    Start the H-H in any position OR should I manually drive the motor to "0" & then let usals start from there

    does it all matter , will the location determin what the usals / motor do initially ??

    thanks for all the help..
    G'Day,
    The most important thing is to Make sure the motor is set to mechanical zero when driven to electronic zero and that this is in fact True North.

    Do you know how to do this??? If not, I will explain.
    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    G'Day,
    The most important thing is to Make sure the motor is set to mechanical zero when driven to electronic zero and that this is in fact True North.

    Do you know how to do this??? If not, I will explain.
    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".
    I would appreciate a walk through of the points..

    Just to make sure I get it right from the start..

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    I wouldn't mind hearing this either

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    Talking H - H Moteck zero reset.

    Quote Originally Posted by *fergs* View Post
    I would appreciate a walk through of the points..

    Just to make sure I get it right from the start..

    OK, here we go, trust the cobwebs aren't too prolific.

    Drive motor to zero via STB.
    Check if mechanical zero on the motor is correct.
    If not, move to zero via buttons on the motor.
    (Not sure if all the same from here, but should be similar).
    One of those buttons should have a led behind it.
    Along side that will be a pin hole.
    Use a paper clip or similar, and poke in that hole for 3 secs.
    Should blink orange then steady green when OK.
    Now find a Sat that is close to True North. C1 is near enough for east coast.
    Drive motor E or W to Azimuth reading on motor. ( Say 2 degrees for east coast).
    Now rotate Dish and motor on the mast for a lock on that Sat. TIGHTEN.
    Now carry on with usals installation.

    Hope that makes sense,
    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ". ......

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    Thanks..

    Will give it a whirl & see what happens ..

    BUT i dont recall any LED ... just the 2 buttons with black rubber covers over them

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    Quote Originally Posted by *fergs* View Post
    Thanks..

    Will give it a whirl & see what happens ..

    BUT i dont recall any LED ... just the 2 buttons with black rubber covers over them
    Probably find one is translucent, can't tell until power is on.

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    Great info beer4life, can you pls just explian this one instruction for me?

    Drive motor E or W to Azimuth reading on motor. ( Say 2 degrees for east coast).

    Cheers mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    Great info beer4life, can you pls just explian this one instruction for me?

    Drive motor E or W to Azimuth reading on motor. ( Say 2 degrees for east coast).

    Cheers mate
    I would assume it might be the difference between True North & Mag North ??

    Its going to be a bit harder over on the west coast as I dont have anything close to "North" that I will hit..

    will need to do more looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    Great info beer4life, can you pls just explian this one instruction for me?


    Drive motor E or W to Azimuth reading on motor. ( Say 2 degrees for east coast).

    Cheers mate
    Probably what I should have said was:
    With your STB or buttons, drive motor to azimuth reading on motor for the Sat that you are using near to True North. eg; 2 degrees East for C1 if you are on 150 Longitude.
    Does that make sense ? If not will have to have another bite at the cherry.
    Now, if I'd said nipple, you wouldn;t need any instruction !!!!
    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by *fergs* View Post
    I would assume it might be the difference between True North & Mag North ??

    Its going to be a bit harder over on the west coast as I dont have anything close to "North" that I will hit..

    will need to do more looking


    This would be ideal if has KU.
    Will check it out.
    Variation is only 2 Degrees W on West coast, but about 13 E on east coast.
    Good example on how much it changes with location.
    Your Location Satellite Data Dish Setup Data Latitude: -31.9554°
    Longitude: 115.8586°
    Name: 115.5E Zhongxing 6B (Chinasat 6B)
    Distance: 36911km
    Motor Latitude: -32.0°
    Declination Angle: 5.2°
    Dish Elevation: °
    Elevation: 52.8°
    Azimuth (true): 359.3°
    Azimuth (magn.): 361.1°
    LNB Skew: -0.6°


    Dish Skew: 90.0°


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    Cool Perth for True North calibration.

    Try this one ?

    AsiaSat 3S at 105.5°E

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    Actually the quickest way to get it working as I found was to forget about USALS for the motor/dish installation stage and set it up only using Diseqc1.2 commands.
    If your dish tracks the Clarke Belt correctly your USALS will work without any extra steps.
    Look through the forum for a lot of information on how to do it right from the first attempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer4life View Post
    Probably what I should have said was:
    With your STB or buttons, drive motor to azimuth reading on motor for the Sat that you are using near to True North. eg; 2 degrees East for C1 if you are on 150 Longitude.
    Does that make sense ? If not will have to have another bite at the cherry.
    Now, if I'd said nipple, you wouldn;t need any instruction !!!!
    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".
    Thanks mate

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    So if I have found C1 D1 D2 will USALs find the others or is it trickier than that?
    Last edited by Dishtrackted; 21-01-10 at 11:07 PM.

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    Wink USALS and tracking the Clarke Belt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dishtrackted View Post
    So if I have found C1 D1 D2 will USALs find the others or is it trickier than that?
    G'Day Cobber,
    If you are tracking the Clarke Belt correctly, should all fall into place.
    If not, you may have to go back to manually adjusting your Tracking.
    Just ensure that your USALS is up to date, as it may be many years since it was upgraded.
    You do need to be sure that you have an active TP when looking for a Satellite.

    Kindest Regards, " The Druid ".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dishtrackted View Post
    So if I have found C1 D1 D2 will USALs find the others or is it trickier than that?
    It should, unless your elevation or declination is not completely spot on.
    If that's not exactly right you might get the (more powerful sats) in the middle of your range but once swinging to either extreme, it will be off target.

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    Sorry its a N00b Question
    but do I just go into set up and press go to?(instead of manually finding them like I did with the others)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dishtrackted View Post
    Sorry its a N00b Question
    but do I just go into set up and press go to?(instead of manually finding them like I did with the others)
    I've never used USALS, but it would be the same as just changing channels or selecting another Sat in your Favourites Menu/Installation Menu.
    It's then auto.


    Last edited by beer4life; 22-01-10 at 05:23 PM.

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