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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post
    OK, I've already got a 1.2m large dish. So, am I to understand the ABC is still available on D1 using it? If so please tell me how. I'm too dim to fully comprehend the earlier posts to work out what I need to do.

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    Yes, the ABC transmissions are on D1 but you need a receiver that can do symbol rate 47.3M/s and modulation format 16APSK multistream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post
    OK, I've already got a 1.2m large dish. So, am I to understand the ABC is still available on D1 using it? If so please tell me how. I'm too dim to fully comprehend the earlier posts to work out what I need to do.

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    I have a 1.8m solid Satellite Dish on Optus D1 .....& still cannot tune the ABC's in

    However I also only have a 11300 LNB installed ...... I really need to change this in case they start broadcasting outside the frequencies of this LNB ..... (maybe to a 10700 or Universal LNB ?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSIRUS View Post
    I have a 1.8m solid Satellite Dish on Optus D1 .....& still cannot tune the ABC's in

    However I also only have a 11300 LNB installed ...... I really need to change this in case they start broadcasting outside the frequencies of this LNB ..... (maybe to a 10700 or Universal LNB ?)
    Unless you have a receiver capable of decoding multistream 16APSK with a s/r of 47300 a large dish size won't help.

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    My Vu+ does not do Multistream, even though I can enter all the info.
    Tried a cheap box from China for channel 9 on Intelsat 19 that hinted that it would do multistream, but no go.
    It seems that the boxes that do multistream are not cheap so I gave up with channel 9.
    So it looks as if my days of watching interstate ABC's are over.
    How long before SBS goes the same way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixons View Post
    So it looks as if my days of watching interstate ABC's are over.
    Every state/territory ABC/SBS is available to anyone on VAST.

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    I am using the PCIe TBS 6902 card which does support 16APSK but does not support MIS. Also it technically only supports up to 45Msps (not 47) but it it kinda works in a weird way for this new ABC transponder.

    If I use EBSPRO and keep re-tuning it seems to change the default MIS number and I can kinda stream the different ABC feeds, though some breakup on some of the Multistream muxes. If I try and change the MIS it says my tuner does not support it (MIS selection not supported). I guess you can say it has some limited support.

    The trick so far has only worked for 122(SA),123(NT),124(WA),126(QLD) can't get 121 (NSW) or 125 (VIC). And I am getting some errors in the stream but it's interesting.
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    Default So, it looks like a suitable card might do the trick on D1?

    Quote Originally Posted by backer View Post
    I am using the PCIe TBS 6902 card which does support 16APSK but does not support MIS. Also it technically only supports up to 45Msps (not 47) but it it kinda works in a weird way for this new ABC transponder.

    If I use EBSPRO and keep re-tuning it seems to change the default MIS number and I can kinda stream the different ABC feeds, though some breakup on some of the Multistream muxes. If I try and change the MIS it says my tuner does not support it (MIS selection not supported). I guess you can say it has some limited support.

    The trick so far has only worked for 122(SA),123(NT),124(WA),126(QLD) can't get 121 (NSW) or 125 (VIC). And I am getting some errors in the stream but it's interesting.
    So, it looks like a suitable card in my Vu+ Solo2 might do the trick of receiving the ABC on D1?
    I'm guessing Tuner A would be configured to work with the card for ABC, leaving tuner 2 as is receiving SBS. Is that at all possible or am I showing my ignorance once again?

    If correct, someone must know of a suitable card.

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    If you are in an area designated for terrestrial but have a poor signal, the only way to get VAST is to get a tech to come out and check the signal. Costs money and then you have to fork out for a VAST box.
    I already have a decent box and was happily receiving ABC from D1.
    Looks like D3 is an option. Will try moving my dish on Intelsat to D3 and try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixons View Post
    If you are in an area designated for terrestrial but have a poor signal, the only way to get VAST is to get a tech to come out and check the signal. Costs money and then you have to fork out for a VAST box.
    Anyone anywhere is permitted to receive ABC and SBS, regardless of location, without signal checks.

    You can also apply as a traveller and get the commercial channels as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dixons View Post
    If you are in an area designated for terrestrial but have a poor signal, the only way to get VAST is to get a tech to come out and check the signal. Costs money and then you have to fork out for a VAST box.
    I already have a decent box and was happily receiving ABC from D1.
    Looks like D3 is an option. Will try moving my dish on Intelsat to D3 and try that.
    Yes I have VAST and Humax PVRs to record it but much prefer the Solo2 because it has skip and other ergonomic functions missing in the VAST receivers. And VAST recordings are tighly controlled.

    AFAIK D3 handles VAST and Foxtel so specialised receivers are required like the Humax etc. My preference is to be able to use the Vu+ for ABC and SBS as previously. Not the end of the world but frustrating just the same.
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    You should check D3 12177 V Sr 27800 Fec 3/4 with your FTA receiver and you may find what you are after.

    A dual 156+160E lnbf arrangement should do the trick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post
    So, it looks like a suitable card in my Vu+ Solo2 might do the trick of receiving the ABC on D1?
    I'm guessing Tuner A would be configured to work with the card for ABC, leaving tuner 2 as is receiving SBS. Is that at all possible or am I showing my ignorance once again?

    If correct, someone must know of a suitable card.
    Perhaps you are confused with the meaning of 'card'?

    The PCIe TBS 6902 'card' that backer is referring to is a tuner card for a computer, not an access 'card' for a CAM/STB slot.

    You don't need an access card for the ABC signals on D1 as they are not encrypted.

    What you need is an actual tuner/decoder that can receive and decode the signals that are encoded with the modulation format of 16APSK multistream with a symbol rate of 47.3M/s.

    A Vu+ Solo2 is not capable of doing that and there is no add-on for it AFAIK. (If it could, it would work for you now)

    It requires a box with hardware built specifically to receive/decode such signals.

    These signals are not intended for direct to home reception, but rather to distribute satellite signals to terrestrial transmission sites, hence why mostly only expensive commercial receivers are available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apsattv View Post
    You should check D3 12177 V Sr 27800 Fec 3/4 with your FTA receiver and you may find what you are after.

    A dual 156+160E lnbf arrangement should do the trick
    Mmmm. Leave tuner B connected to tuner B for SBS and connect tuner A to D3 for ABC. Worth a try. I'll report back if sucessful.
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    Save your energy your current receiver wouldn't pick any these channel regardless of your dish size.. ABC recently migrated to the latest network feed distribution system same as used by Channel 9 on on I19 at 166.0°E.


    I recall a thread on this somewhere in here. Your DVB-S2 MPEG-4 H264 is obsolete. New receivers coming on to the market support DVBS2 16/32/64APSK, H265, HEVC multi stream which is also 4k broadcast ready. These would be running on Hicylicon, Amalogic912 processors type STB's
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    Perhaps you are confused with the meaning of 'card'?

    The PCIe TBS 6902 'card' that backer is referring to is a tuner card for a computer, not an access 'card' for a CAM/STB slot.

    You don't need an access card for the ABC signals on D1 as they are not encrypted.

    What you need is an actual tuner/decoder that can receive and decode the signals that are encoded with the modulation format of 16APSK multistream with a symbol rate of 47.3M/s.

    A Vu+ Solo2 is not capable of doing that and there is no add-on for it AFAIK. (If it could, it would work for you now)

    It requires a box with hardware built specifically to receive/decode such signals.

    These signals are not intended for direct to home reception, but rather to distribute satellite signals to terrestrial transmission sites, hence why mostly only expensive commercial receivers are available.
    Would this one do the trick, mtv?



    Not overly expensive if it does.

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    Thumbs down Still unable to get ABC on a non VAST receiver

    Sadly, it did not work. LNB settings correct, satellite D3 specified, fed in for manual scan 12177 V 27800 3/4 yielded no channels. I tried H instead of V bit found nothing worthwhile.

    Of couse a general scan found hundreds but even the ABC & SBS are VAST encrypted along with the commercial and Foxtel etc channels.

    Some time ago there were hints of illegal VAST cards which coulds be used in receivers like the Vu+. If anyone knows of one please email me confidentially to jcoulsonATiprimus.com.au with the AT obviously to be replaced with @. Note I'm only interested in the ABC/SBS channels. It is frustrating not to be able to readily access the publically owned ABC services and be forced to use the cobbled VAST PVRs that only allow for 2 channels to be recorded simultaneously.

    And another gripe with Humax is that the audio has to be set to stereo if you want to hear Ch9. There are some good MC broadcasts these days on the ABC & SBS but it now seems listening to it on the ABC is a past event if you ever want to listen to a Ch9 recording.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thala Dan View Post
    Would this one do the trick, mtv?



    Not overly expensive if it does.
    Looks impressive.

    Can't find any info if it will handle s/r of 47.30Mc/s

    It does however say it does 16APSK multistream so hopefully it also covers the required s/r.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post
    Some time ago there were hints of illegal VAST cards which coulds be used in receivers like the Vu+.
    No such item exists AFAIK.

    VAST cards and CAMS/decoders are paired. You cannot just get a VAST card and you cannot use a VAST card in any other device than what it was supplied with.

    You can obtain a VAST CAM and card which will work in the CI slot of your decoder.

    You activate it the same way as a VAST box.

    The cost of the CAM & card is around the same as buying a VAST decoder with card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tassie Devil View Post
    Sadly, it did not work. LNB settings correct, satellite D3 specified, fed in for manual scan 12177 V 27800 3/4 yielded no channels. I tried H instead of V bit found nothing worthwhile.
    You must be doing something wrong. Are you sure D3 is set to the correct LNBF setting?

    All the Abc's are there are FTA


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    Quote Originally Posted by mtv View Post
    Looks impressive.

    Can't find any info if it will handle s/r of 47.30Mc/s

    It does however say it does 16APSK multistream so hopefully it also covers the required s/r.
    Quite a bit of chatter here about it, starting late-August through to today:



    One of the blokes in the thread (Stephan94) is a beta tester.

    Judging by the thread content, some fun and games are still being had with the unit.

    Only mention of SR is reference to its ability to resolve low SR - one poster refers to resolving a SR of around 285.

    Can't find anything in any online specs about SR.

    The sort of issues being discussed remind me of the fun being had by owners of Freesat units.

    Another example of "Get it out into the market....fix the problems later" it would seem.

    I'll see if I can dig anything up on the SR specs.

    PS: English/German user manual here:

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