Fisher & Paykel Intuitive eco 8kg (IW812) error codes 130, 136, 240

[smph74]

My washing machine was initially throwing intermittent errors 130 and 136, so after doing some research, I first tried cleaning the rotor position sensor but this didn't resolve the issue, so I purchased a replacement rotor position sensor.

Just before replacing this on the machine, the washer started working again with no errors. Then the pump went on the machine, so I purchased a new pump and replaced this.

After replacing the pump, the machine has not worked and is now giving the 130 and 136 errors again, all the time. So I proceeded to replace the RPS and the errors still occur. Sadly (and foolishly), I opted to purchase a confirmed working (second hand) RPS on Ebay, so I am not sure if the RPS is still faulty (both of them), or if it is something more significant.

I have noticed that one RPS will give a 136 error as soon as I try to turn the agitator, whilst the other RPS will give a 130 error when the machine is in spin or rinse cycle, and it seems to happen when increasing spin speed.

The last time I tried the machine, it seemed to get up a fair amount of spin speed and then stopped with a 240 error.

So, to my question... do I ditch the machine and get a new one, or buy a new RPS and try that?

[smph74]

Did you mean to add a link to your post?

[gordon_s1942]

I think you need to make a decision based on How old is the machine, how much work has it done, what have the parts cost, what will other parts cost, if replacing anything doesnt fix the problem how urgently do you need to the machine working again and finally, if you have to call/take it to a repair centre, whats that going to cost you in time and money?.
I see the base 8.5kg F&P's in a catalogue for under $900.
I am not sure if yours is the base model like ours or with all the bells and whistles, but do you really need those features so long as it washes and spins ?

[smph74]

I think you need to make a decision based on How old is the machine, how much work has it done...

Thanks for the feedback... I agree, plus I needed to do some washing, so I purchased another F&P at the sales. Now I am stuck with a large white box, and still wondering whether to try to fix and on-sell, or sell as not-working for probably a tenner.

[gordon_s1942]

Thanks for the feedback... I agree, plus I needed to do some washing, so I purchased another F&P at the sales. Now I am stuck with a large white box, and still wondering whether to try to fix and on-sell, or sell as not-working for probably a tenner.

Again, this depends on how much you may have to spend and how long it takes, depending on your level of expertise.
Somehow our last F&P got water into the area where the motherboard sat and I am guessing it 'shorted' it out but did it affect any other bits like the sensors?
Being a bit rural, I opted for the Tip option.

[BCNZ]

When you have a machine like this, rather than buying parts for it, the better option is to head on down to your local recycle centre and see what they have there.
I don't know how it works in Oz, but here in NZ people offload whitegoods on a regular basis, and most get stripped for parts.
If you're lucky you can get a bin full of parts for a fiver, or make an offer for the whole machine - maybe $20 on a good day.
This gives you a source of readily available parts to use and swap out.
There is no easy way to test the RPS. F & P used to sell an RPS tester but I never bothered buying one, I just used to swap them out.
Even second hand ones that look OK can often be faulty.
If it's of any assistance, here are the fault codes you are seeing, and they all point towards the RPS and/or associated cabling being suspect.

Code 130:
Single Rotor Position Sensor Error

The Motor Control Module has found an error in the pattern received
from the Rotor Position Sensor. Likely causes of this fault are a bad
connection on the harness between the Rotor Position Sensor and the
Motor Control Module, or a faulty Rotor Position Sensor.

Primary Source: Wiring.
Action: 1. Check for corrosion on the edge connector of
the Rotor Position Sensor and the Motor
Control Module connector.
2. Check the contacts on the rotor positional
sensor end of the hall harness to see if any
have been damaged. (Each set of contacts in
the socket has two wipers. If the distance
between these wipers varies between
different contacts, replace the rotor positional
sensor harness.)

Secondary Source: Rotor Position Sensor.
Action: Check the Rotor Position Sensor with an R.P.S.
tester. Replace if faulty.

Tertiary Source: Motor Control Module.
Action: Replace Motor Control Module.



Code 136:
Motor Stall

The Motor Control Module has been unable to start the motor.
Possible causes of this fault are: Faulty motor harness, faulty or
jammed motor, seized bearings or seals, faulty Motor Control Module,
faulty Rotor Position Sensor or harness.

Primary Source: Wiring.
Action: Measure / check the motor harness, connectors
and motor for discontinuity. This can be done
by taking a resistance measurement between
phases of the motor harness at the Motor
Control Module end. Nominal resistance should
be approximately 2.6 ohms for Phase 1, 12.2
ohms for Phases 2, 3 and 4, and 32 ohms for
Phases 5 and 6.

Secondary Source: Motor.
Action: 1. Check free rotation of the agitator and bowl
by rotating by hand. Bearings and seals may
be seized.
2. Check the Rotor Position Sensor and
associated harness for water, mechanical
damage or corrosion.

Tertiary Source: Motor Control Module.
Action: If the primary and secondary checks pass
inspection, then replace the Motor Control
Module.


Code 240:
Hall Out of Order. RPS Fault

Same as previous Hall Error faults, just an extra fault code for Phase
6. See fault codes 130 and 131 for directions.

[NZ Alarm Tech]

We had an F&P machine with the 130 code, I replaced sensor and still same fault. Sold machine on TradeMe to a white ware repair tech. He said shaft was bent and replacing fixed it. Really!?