Reply With Quotehinekadon (25-06-18),loopyloo (25-06-18),Skepticist (25-06-18)
Loopy, there are other excellent Paint/Graphic apps for Linux that you might want to try and mostly can print.
Gimp is the most famous and does pretty much what Photoshop does but for simpler stuff Krita is great. Printing is not always done on a painting program. You export it to a jpg or png and print that out with an image viewer/editor like Gwenview or Showfoto.
For vektor graphics there is Inkscape, for 3D images you got Blender(pretty professional stuff) and electronic design have a go at KiCad.
If you want to search deeper for applications there is (luckily still) the good old Synaptic: sudo apt-get install synaptic
Their Discover app is good for starters but IMO limited and VERY slow or buggy.
Krusader really makes life much easier once you discover it's power. It has one disadvantage, that it makes you very lazy to learn the basic Terminal commands because you rarely need them.
I am a KDE man( Kubuntu 18.04 LTR is so smooth), always hated the 'ugly Gnome', had not much to do with Mint, been with Ubuntu since version 5.04 although on and off with other Linux distros.
...and don't forget to play Kolf and use the Galculator, although lately I have tried to Qalculate!
Have a go with that old Apple. OSX the most user friendly 'Linux' distro ever, once you get rid of everything that starts with an 'i'
...and install the same popular open source apps you will find in other Linux distros.
With Linux you have to figure out how to get it to work and then it just works.
With Windows once you figured out how to get it to work, it suddenly doesn't.
I have been computing since the early 80's and all through the M$ era. 'Til this day Microsoft still wants me to die of a heart attack or at least make me want to do this:
Last edited by Uncle Fester; 25-06-18 at 11:13 PM.
Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
Compatibility: A word soon to be deleted from our dictionaries as it is outdated.
Humans: Entities that are not only outdated but broken... AI-self-learning-update-error...terminate...terminate...
hinekadon (25-06-18),loopyloo (25-06-18),Skepticist (25-06-18)
So at that wine site there's wine 3.x directory with 3.1 through to 3.11 inside it.
Do I just pick the four 3.11 files or take the lot ?
If I only need the four of them, the next question will be how to install ?
They are diff.zx, diff.zx.sign, tar.zx and tar.zx.sign
I can copy them to the linux machine on flash drive.
Last edited by loopyloo; 25-06-18 at 11:12 PM.
Was a bit of a trainwreck but I installed the 'development' latest version of Wine which is 3.11
loopyloo (25-06-18)
Ha ha ha !Originally Posted by nomeat
Loopy, there are other excellent Paint/Graphic apps for Linux that you might want to try and mostly can print.
Gimp is the most famous and does pretty much what Photoshop does but for simpler stuff Krita is great. Printing is not always done on a painting program. You export it to a jpg or png and print that out with an image viewer/editor like Gwenview or Showfoto.
For vektor graphics there is Inkscape, for 3D images you got Blender(pretty professional stuff) and electronic design have a go at KiCad.
If you want to search deeper for applications there is (luckily still) the good old Synaptic: sudo apt-get install synaptic
Their Discover app is good for starters but IMO limited and VERY slow or buggy.
Krusader really makes life much easier once you discover it's power. It has one disadvantage, that it makes you very lazy to learn the basic Terminal commands because you rarely need them.
I am a KDE man( Kubuntu 18.04 LTR is so smooth), always hated the 'ugly Gnome', had not much to do with Mint, been with Ubuntu since version 5.04 although on and off with other Linux distros.
...and don't forget to play Kolf and use the Galculator, although lately I have tried to Qalculate!
Have a go with that old Apple. OSX the most user friendly 'Linux' distro ever, once you get rid of everything that starts with an 'i'
...and install the same popular open source apps you will find in other Linux distros.
With Linux you have to figure out how to get it to work and then it just works.
With Windows once you figured out how to get it to work, it suddenly doesn't.
I have been computing since the early 80's and all through the M$ era. 'Til this day Microsoft still wants me to die of a heart attack or at least make me want to do this:
You're kidding ? .... Apple is linux ?
Well I didn't know that.
Trouble with apple is the way everything is locked up. and in my case even more locked up cos I picked mine up off the footpath a few years ago and have never been able to crack the password. Lol
It runs and I can use the programs (to a point) but can't do things like update and can't delete programs or files and I don't know what else.
Last edited by loopyloo; 25-06-18 at 11:49 PM.
Try "play on linux" for paint.net. I had problems with .net extensions for Sketchup using Wine. A google search for installing paint.net on Linux should give you some hintsupon how is does, or does not, work.
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
loopyloo (25-06-18)
Beauti, I'll download it, what's the PCsteps password ?
how old is the apple has it gone rotten yet try used to work 116123 with really old ones
loopyloo (26-06-18)
g5 17"
It didn't ask me for a password - maybe my VPN is a factor
loopyloo (26-06-18)
Ah ok thanks I'll turn it on tomorrow and give it a go.
Ah yes,, VPN. That'll be another subject for me before too long.
Last edited by loopyloo; 26-06-18 at 12:48 AM.
Just noticed this mint computer's got no sound. Needs a driver and prob other stuff like video etc also. How do I get them onboard ?
It's a 8TRS400M motherboard.
I've got the drivers for windows xp, but they won't be capable of installing will they ?
PS. Just tried the sound driver and it appeared to go through but it still doesn't work so perhaps it didn't install because during install it said I need to have the bus installed before the sound driver, so what if I install the chipset then try again ? Could it do any harm to the computer ?
Last edited by loopyloo; 26-06-18 at 12:43 PM.
Right click on the 'sound' icon on the task bar and select preferences to see which device and profile it's using. There's a speaker test button in there too.
Had a similar problem here after I'd been messing around with settings and turned out I'd directed sound output to the rear line out instead of the front 'headphone' socket
Last edited by Skepticist; 26-06-18 at 12:50 PM.
Nah it comes up as dummy output. No other device listed.
There's no option for sound front or rear either so must need the driver I'd say.
Does alsamixer run? (type alsamixer in terminal)
Another useful tool is pavucontrol ( sudo apt-get install pavucontrol ) - type pavucontrol in terminal to run it
And of course do a lspci in terminal to list all your hardware - should show at least 1 audio device
Some helpful info here -
Last edited by Skepticist; 26-06-18 at 01:36 PM.
Yes alsamixer runs, shows I have HDA ULI M5461 and Realtek ALC880. Won't beep. (spacebar?)
lspci lists a HD audio controller.
So I wonder why preferences shows Dummy Controller.
So from your link I ran the following :
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily
sudo apt update
sudo apt install oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms
and received :
Error! The dkms.conf for this module
includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which does not match this
kernel/arch. This indicates that it should not be built. Done.
(as a second attempt) When I added the first line : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily
It told me to go here :
Following instructions there I entered "uname -r" and got 4.10.0 -38 generic
It also says to go to this page for the correct package :
Mine is not listed there so which one do I try ?
I gotta admit, this linux stuff is interesting and I'm learning things.....just don't know what it is I'm actually learning
Last edited by loopyloo; 26-06-18 at 06:11 PM.
Mint 18.3 'Sylvia' is xenial and there are 2 xenials in the list, both for 64bit installs
The last one looks the most likely to me oem-audio-hda-daily-lts-xenial-dkms - 0.201806070316~ubuntu16.04.1
Oh, that might not be good then.....This machine is 32 bit.
I guess I should try it anyway, it might do both.
Last edited by loopyloo; 26-06-18 at 06:15 PM.
As you've added the alsa repository, have you tried apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade?
update finds all changes to installed apps by going through the repository list, upgrade actually applies those changes
cat /etc/os-release will tell you all about your OS including the ubuntu codename
Last edited by Skepticist; 26-06-18 at 06:23 PM.
Yeah tried the upgrade to no avail
code name is xenial.
Mint 18.3 sylvia.
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