Can't install linux

**bob_m_54** · 28-06-18, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by hinekadon

perhaps have a look at caps around the ddr2 sockets these do funny things to the system and throw up silly results that can make you pull your hair out ? just a suggestion just cos it was working on win seven dont mean that is ok

Do the caps affect 32bit as well, or just 64bit?

**hinekadon** · 28-06-18, 03:58 PM

yep similar circuit design just different processors you can normally tell as they remove hair from the top of your head and dont make sense of anything very slow to load things memory levels jump around

**loopyloo** · 28-06-18, 04:46 PM

Just trying to make sense if this.
I downloaded both of these files :
Running the msi doesn't work so I assume the linux file runs the msi file, or is it just two methods of install, so I should just run the linux file.
There's a lot of files in that wine-mono folder I extracted. Which one do I click on to execute the install of mono ?

**Jma** · 28-06-18, 05:43 PM

The .tar.gz will most likely be the full source code that would need compiling etc..
.msi's have to be run via Terminal, and from memory I could never ever get them to work correctly.

Hats off for the effort you're putting in, I'd have got the sh*ts with it long before now.
After trying this for a short while & not getting anywhere I'd simply be using Pinta & printing from outside the program.

**loopyloo** · 28-06-18, 07:20 PM

I think I've almost got .net to install but there's still problems.

How do I do this ? : "If install fails set /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0"

**Jma** · 28-06-18, 08:33 PM

Ptrace_scope was set to 1 for security reasons.

**loopyloo** · 28-06-18, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jma

Ptrace_scope was set to 1 for security reasons.

All that stuff is hard to understand.
Can I just enter (in terminal) echo "0" | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope > /dev/null
and after installing .net put it back with echo "1" | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope > /dev/null

**Jma** · 28-06-18, 09:23 PM

Honestly, I don't know.
Try it I guess & see if it works.
One good thing about Linux is if it breaks it takes very little time and effort to reinstall & start from scratch.

**loopyloo** · 28-06-18, 11:05 PM

Ok well I tried that and it didn't fix the problem.
So I'll give play on linux a go, see what happens.

**Skepticist** · 28-06-18, 11:28 PM

I even took a shot at installing paint.net in a virtual machine running a genuine win10 and it was unsuccessful there as well. Maybe I didn't spend enough time on it but it's proving to be very problematic for some reason.

**loopyloo** · 29-06-18, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Skepticist

I even took a shot at installing paint.net in a virtual machine running a genuine win10 and it was unsuccessful there as well. Maybe I didn't spend enough time on it but it's proving to be very problematic for some reason.

did you get the requires win7 sp1 error ?

**Skepticist** · 29-06-18, 10:49 AM

No SP1 errors, install just abruptly stops while trying to install the .net update
Well something pops up in a dialogue box but so quickly you'd rarely see the flash let alone read it

**hinekadon** · 29-06-18, 11:02 AM

hope it helps don

**loopyloo** · 30-06-18, 11:15 AM

Ok so 6 days later and I've now got a working Paint.net on the system. For those wanting Paint.net on their Linux OS read on.
Based on a forum thread I found, installing it is not too hard but I had to modify what I read and add some steps to attain success.

Paint.net is a really great program for not only drawing but also editing photos. As mentioned before, I use it a lot because it will do almost everything that photoshop will do but is heaps easier to use. I do use photoshop if I need to work with certain specialized effects.

Apparently, Paint.net 3.5.11 is the latest version that will run on Linux, I am led to believe anything after that needs a later version of .net which can't be installed on Linux. I will at a later date attempt to get the current Paint.net installed.

1/ In Linux, got to apps and install Wine.
2/ Also in apps, install Winetricks.
3/ Once again in apps, install PlayonLinux.
4/ Update-upgrade to make sure you have the latest versions of 1/ , 2/ and 3/.
5/ Now we create a 32-bit virtual drive
5a/ Run PlayonLinux and click Configure, click New.
5b/ Click Next after selecting 32 bits windows installation.
5c/ Click Next after selecting your latest version of Wine.
5d/ Click Next after entering PaintDotNet as the name of your new virtual drive.
6/ In the left panel, click on the PaintDotNet folder, then click the Install Components tab.
7/ Scroll through the list to select Dotnet40 then click Install. Allow Dotnet40 to do its thing.
8/ Go back to your PaintDotNet folder in PlayonLinux and select Gdiplus and install it.
9/ Close PlayonLinux Configuration.
10/ Go here and download Paint.net:
11/ Unzip Paint.net to Home\PlayonLinux's Virtual Drives\PaintDotNet.
12/ Open terminal and enter "winecfg"
12a/ Click the Applications tab then click Add Application.
12b/ Search Home\(user name)\PlayonLinux's Virtual Drives\PaintDotNet/Paint.NET.3.5.11.Install.exe and click Open.
12c/ Change windows version to Windows 10 (or whatever is the latest). Click Apply/OK to close wine config.
13/ Go back to Home\(user name)\PlayonLinux's Virtual Drives\PaintDotNet and right click on Paint.NET.3.5.11.Install.exe and Open with Wine Windows Program Loader.
14/ Follow the install instructions and go make a coffee. It will take quite a while before it's finished.
15/ Done.

PS Beware : I ran Paint.NET.3.5.11.Install.exe from the downloads folder which installed it fine but I now have no icon on the desktop.

Here you will find lots of excellent plug-ins for Paint.net:

**hinekadon** · 30-06-18, 11:44 AM

very well loopyloo love the perseverance! dont let the basta?ds beat you

**loopyloo** · 30-06-18, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by hinekadon

very well loopyloo love the perseverance! dont let the basta?ds beat you

ha ha yeah of course not.
I forgot an important step above so I'll have to go fix it.
I'd say the views will go through the roof with this one.

**hinekadon** · 30-06-18, 12:35 PM

hi loopyloo skepticist and jma can you post your results on" ask ubuntu"
' where it will get the most looks and help so many others cheers

**Skepticist** · 30-06-18, 04:42 PM

Excellent work there loopyloo - never give up, never surrender

And definitely post your working on winehq forum as you could be the first to get paint.net working

I've found just about all the apps I'd had trouble with previously now install easily in wine 3.xx. Got more to try yet though but feeling fairly confident that I could escape the clutches of MS in the near future.

**loopyloo** · 30-06-18, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by hinekadon

hi loopyloo skepticist and jma can you post your results on" ask ubuntu"
' where it will get the most looks and help so many others cheers

Good idea.
Might test a bit more first though to be sure.

**loopyloo** · 30-06-18, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Skepticist

Excellent work there loopyloo - never give up, never surrender

And definitely post your working on winehq forum as you could be the first to get paint.net working

I've found just about all the apps I'd had trouble with previously now install easily in wine 3.xx. Got more to try yet though but feeling fairly confident that I could escape the clutches of MS in the near future.

I installed 6 programs from wine. 3 didn't work and error.

Would you like to test if my method works for you too ? By installing Paint.net ?
Of course, if you don't like it you can just uninstall it and delete the drive.