Reply With Quoteloopyloo (02-07-18)
Works ok for me - I loaded up an existing pic, added some text and saved it without any issues and reviewed it with another image viewer .
loopyloo (02-07-18)
Ok then I'd say I might have a video driver problem.Originally Posted by Skepticist
Paint doesn't appear too nice in general on the screen. Has some weird shadowing in places, colours not quite right and the resolution seems a bit low too.
Now to find and install a graphics driver.....Here we go again.
I've done it a number of times now, even reverted to wine-stable 3.01 and everything went perfectly with no errors.
The trick is to do everything within PlayOnLinux IE first create the virtual drive 32bit (I called it PDNet)
and install dotnet40 & gdiplus
then in PlayOnLinux:
install a program
install a non-listed program
next
install a program in a new virtual drive
next
Type in the name of drive previously created IE PDNet
next next next
overwrite
next (takes a while creating/updating the virtual drive here)
browse to Paint.NET.3.5.11.Install.exe and click Open
next
and normal paint.net installation starts up
wait for it to complete and there's the option to make a shortcut which will appear on the desktop
select paintdotnet.exe and click next, enter name or just click on the default name and then next
Shut down PlayOnLinux and the app can now be run from the desktop shortcut
loopyloo (01-07-18)
Yep you're right.
Ya have to do it through playonlinux, but you also have make sure things like dot.net and gdiplus are injected directly to the virtual drive you're working on....Just found that out.
I've got a good working Paint.net this time but the graphics could be better. I'd now like to make sure it's got the best video card drivers installed..How do I do that ?
Any alternative video drivers available in driver manager? (I get 3 options and a recommendation here)
Reminds of something that happened here - does your OS recognise your monitor model?
Last edited by Skepticist; 02-07-18 at 11:32 AM.
loopyloo (02-07-18)
Did I not suggest PlayOnLinux very early in the piece? (Post 49)
I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message...
loopyloo (02-07-18),Skepticist (02-07-18)
Yes it sees a Sumsung monitor.
Driver manager only shows microcode.
Try xrandr in terminal to list all the resolution options for your monitor(s) and the one currently in use
Probably time to go hunting on Mint forums. I've never had a problem that was unique to me so someone out there will always have experienced the same thing and written something about it online
Last edited by Skepticist; 02-07-18 at 11:59 AM.
loopyloo (02-07-18)
The fact that driver manager doesn't show any driver options for your video card suggests that you haven't added a repository for that make/model as yet.
lspci -v should show the make, model etc etc for all your hardware
loopyloo (02-07-18)
That might explain a few things. I didn't know I had to add stuff for the make or model.
The video is Intel 82945G/GZ and is currently set at 1600 x 900.
So how do I add make and model ?
Is it the motherboard integral video?
It gets quite a few mentions in the forums but I'm not seeing much in the way of solutions. Possibly 1600x900 is the chip's limit considering the vintage.
Does xrandr indicate anything > 1600x900?
Last edited by Skepticist; 02-07-18 at 05:43 PM.
loopyloo (02-07-18)
No it doesn't. 1600x900 is this monitor's highest res but I'm wondering about the video driver.
xrandr lists heaps of stuff. Does that mean it's already got the drivers for them ?
I've got 3 computers setup to test out linux. This one, and the first one I started with when I initiated the thread, and the third has linux CNC on it now, which incidentally I though was a program to load onto linux but it's actually built as a complete OS.
This computer is a HP Compaq DC7600.
xrandr lists all available modes (resolution and refresh rate) for your video ouputs that are connected to monitors so it must be interrogating the monitors . Disconnected outputs eg HDMI just get listed as disconnected.
Do you have any other video cards you could try in that PC?
From what I've read Linux has a set of generic drivers included that should cover the majority of hardware so perhaps yours is one that missed out somehow. The Linux forums would be the best place to get answers on this issue.
Last edited by Skepticist; 02-07-18 at 07:10 PM.
loopyloo (02-07-18)
this may explain how they work for you
loopyloo (02-07-18)
Ah the screen look pretty good in general just paint.net is a bit low, also a couple of games that I tried to download failed and I wondered if it might have been the video that let them down.
I might have a video card somewhere but I'd have to try it in the first computer cos this one takes low profile cards. Might try that though, in a couple of days.
Skepticist (02-07-18)
Sorry, you lost me on that one.
Yep ....and Wine (post 51)Did I not suggest PlayOnLinux very early in the piece? (Post 49)
description of how visuals work on linux
loopyloo (03-07-18)
I must admire all your patience guys
This reminds me of my Ubuntu 5.04 days when I tried to get my Windows stuff working on Linux with wine and all the plugins.
At some stage I found out that it was better to run Vritual Box on Linux which solved many problems(and created some new ones) but I also decided to step back from many windows Applications. I also do not need to get everything to work on Linux, just my everyday computing and online activity which is arguably much safer and easier than Windows.
Getting full Video performance on laptops with exotic GPUs that do not provide Linux support can be a pain but as there are little games on Linux that require it I have never really bothered.
I also kind of managed to stick with Nvida graphic cards most of the time that do have Linux support. I have never experienced any issues directly with monitors. All the Linux distros I have used never created any monitor relateted issues so that surprises me, even using dual monitor setups.
I have done probably 100 Linux installs in the last 13 years.
Most of my install where KDE versions. Maybe Mint itself has a few issues.
I know this is not solving your problems directly Loopy, but I am just hinting that it may be sometimes wise to approach things differently if one distro does not work for you.
It is very unusual to have so many problems with Linux these days.
Update: A deletion of features that work well and ain't broke but are deemed outdated in order to add things that are up to date and broken.
Compatibility: A word soon to be deleted from our dictionaries as it is outdated.
Humans: Entities that are not only outdated but broken... AI-self-learning-update-error...terminate...terminate...
Ha ha ha ha Shirley you jest ?
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