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    Default Can't install linux

    A computer I have in the shed has some older linux on it and I thought I might try putting the latest Linux Mint on it to see if it's any better.
    The ISO was downloaded to a USB. I then moved to the linux machine and burnt the iso to a disk.
    On startup the computer won't boot the disk and gives the error : failed to load ldlinux.c32 ..... The DVD drive works fine otherwise. I also tried a USB DVD drive but it failed too.

    What's going on ?
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    load lubuntu first then change to what you want

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    i assume you have gone into boot sequence ??? in setup cmos

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinekadon View Post
    i assume you have gone into boot sequence ??? in setup cmos
    Yes during boot I have told it to boot from the DVD.
    What do you mean by "load lubuntu first then change to what you want" ? .... Am I supposed to change something ?

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    yep some of the older linux wont load like your problem
    so i have put the short version (lubuntu)on then changed to the sys you want

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    I use lubuntu on older laptops works great and is easy to set up

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    So dos doesn't understand c32 then ?
    That's odd because the install instruction just says to boot to DVD after powering on.
    The old Linux Mint is 18 dot something. Surely that's not too old.

    Just looking at lubuntu now, it's also an ISO. Am I going to have trouble installing that too ?

    PS Ah I think I get where you're coming from now. You mean this lubuntu has multiple linux's in one. I think that's not really a solution to the original problem. If it won't boot off this linux DVD, then it probably won't boot off any linux file.

    Can I run the install from inside the old Linux ? ... I wouldn't have a clue how to do that.
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    Check in BIOS settings for UEFI and/or 'secure boot' options - disable them if present and see if that makes any difference.

    Otherwise it could be that your ISO is corrupted. The Mint ISO's are 'live boot' so you can run the OS before deciding to install it on the HDD.

    Try burning the ISO to a flash drive with RUFUS if the PC can boot from USB.
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    Wouldn't work on other computers either.
    Must be a corrupt file I think. I did a second burn of it and it still doesn't work.
    These are the files on the disk. Shouldn't there be an install file of sorts in the root directory ?


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    That looks right to me apart from the absence of an EFI boot folder
    Is it a 32 or 64bit version?

    The actual system to be installed should be in 'Casper' folder named something like 'filesystem.squashfs' (Squashfs is a compression system)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticist View Post
    That looks right to me apart from the absence of an EFI boot folder
    Is it a 32 or 64bit version?

    The actual system to be installed should be in 'Casper' folder named something like 'filesystem.squashfs' (Squashfs is a compression system)
    It's 32 bit.
    There is filesystem.squashfs in the casper folder. So is the bios supposed to work with that to instigate install ?

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    It should be booting via GRUB to start up isolinux but the lack of an EFI folder might be what's stalling things.

    I have a mint 18.3 32bit iso from and it works fine (1.9GB)

    Major correction::
    I opened that ISO with G-Mount and indeed there is no 'EFI' partition so it must have to be created by by the tool used to write the ISO to a disc or flash drive. I use RUFUS in Windows for writing to flash drives and Nero for writing to DVD, both work without a problem for me at least.

    More in-depth information about the GRUB boot process -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticist View Post
    It should be booting via GRUB to start up isolinux but the lack of an EFI folder might be what's stalling things.

    I have a mint 18.3 32bit iso from and it works fine (1.9GB)

    Major correction::
    I opened that ISO with G-Mount and indeed there is no 'EFI' partition so it must have to be created by by the tool used to write the ISO to a disc or flash drive. I use RUFUS in Windows for writing to flash drives and Nero for writing to DVD, both work without a problem for me at least.

    More in-depth information about the GRUB boot process -
    I read something about EFI is for 64 bit so maybe yours is 32.

    I finally worked it out. I couldn't get 18.... to run then found a 19 so I downloaded that and It wouldn't work by disk either.
    4 disks later (the 4th jammed in the DVD door and scratched it) I went to USB and couldn't load the ISO on. Much later I worked out that flash drive had bit the dust so then to another flash drive and got it going.
    Crikey !!!
    That rufus is pretty good though.

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    A double hardware problem - never would have expected that to happen :O

    Far as I can see, Mint 19 'Tara' is still a beta release but very close to final now so you could find a few issues in that one.

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    So now I've got Linux 19 installed and working but there's a problem I can't find a solution for.
    After Linux is loaded, I get : "Cinnamon just crashed. You are currently running in fallback mode."
    I used a manager to download all the latest updates but that didn't help the error.

    So what's fallback mode ? Is it like windows safe mode ?
    Linux is foreign to me so I think I need to find out what programs to open and do some checks.
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    Seems that problem is fairly common and associated with the video driver although I've never struck it myself.
    The Linux Mint forum () is an excellent resource for sorting these things out though.
    EG

    Does it happen when you boot up the live version without actually installing?
    And there is the 'beta' thing as well - maybe try 18.3 'Sylvia' as it's likely to be more stable ATM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticist View Post
    Seems that problem is fairly common and associated with the video driver although I've never struck it myself.
    The Linux Mint forum () is an excellent resource for sorting these things out though.
    EG

    Does it happen when you boot up the live version without actually installing?
    And there is the 'beta' thing as well - maybe try 18.3 'Sylvia' as it's likely to be more stable ATM
    Yeah it did error when live, I hoped the install might fix that.
    Before I put it on this machine I tried live on another computer and it ran without without any errors.
    Another thing, I installed it beside the old Mint so it's dual boot. I only did that in case the install failed I could see if update would do it instead. I can't imagine that would cause this error.

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    When you boot, GRUB should give you a 'recovery mode' boot (could be under advanced options) that lets you do a file system check and repair any broken packages etc

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    Thought I might try a reinstall without the dual boot and I noticed an error comes up briefly on the screen while loading the live version. Something about ACPI couldn't find package or something.
    Might have to try to get a photo of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skepticist View Post
    When you boot, GRUB should give you a 'recovery mode' boot (could be under advanced options) that lets you do a file system check and repair any broken packages etc
    Ah ok I'll check for that first then

    PS Recovery didn't seem to operate properly. I think there might have been something corrupt in there too.
    So at the moment I'm doing a reinstall single boot. I wondered if files might be missing because I did the first install in the back shed and there's no network there. This time I've plugged the network by cable. Gonna sit back and watch the modem light.
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