alpha0ne (12-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
Let's get the nice stuff out of the way first. Good on you for standing up for your beliefs and going against the tide. It is never easy.
Now the bad stuff. It would be much better if you found some views worth standing up for.
Pretty nasty racism? No. Mild racism at the most. More likely just descriptive out of his frustration with some members of this particular group. It is not necessarily nasty racism every time the race or colour of someone is mentioned.
One open speculation that racial discrimination may be required. Debate the facts. You should not be assuming that everyone shares your prejudices and will join the lynch mob with you.
And, of course, one call for discrimination without reference to race.
By the way, what race is Islam?
Last edited by DB44; 12-11-18 at 12:20 PM.
alpha0ne (12-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
under the correct description of racial discrimination , the worlds tribes have for the last two thousand years at least have practiced and cause wars over it , be a bit hard to change the whole worlds lipservice to it and deny it they will publicly , how would we feel if some obnoxious people of an other race moved in next door to you!!!!!!! NO OBJECTION ?????? BULLSHIT
Seeing as this thread is about a terrorist attack carried out by an individual of the Islamic faith, its implicit by that fact.
Oh, by the way I'm white, but I didn't take offence when I'm called white fella by aboriginals, or white honky by fellow black basketballers when I played with them, it just happens to be the colour of my skin, I suppose I should have corrected them and told them its actually pink, maybe?
Oh boy, out come the excuses already, of course, his actions can be explained away by his mental state of being (sarcasm) , radicalisation had absolutely nothing to do with it....
Last edited by Al Bundy; 12-11-18 at 01:07 PM.
Cheers
Ted (Al)
Jma (12-11-18),ol' boy (12-11-18),porkop (12-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
and there it is " HE SUFFERED FROM A MENTAL ILLNESS "
fk off
my partner suffers from a mental illness and i have know many who do and
im pretty sure there are a few on this site who do or have dealt with some one
who has suffered from the dreadful disease.
but to say he did what he did because of it is just a fkn blanket excuse
he had to be having those thoughts to even contemplate it.
It really fkn piss's me off when they use that excuse because it just puts those
people who really are suffering from it in a terrible light and when they read about
it it makes them feel worse and gives them more reason to hide it from those around
them just making it worse.
Last edited by fandtm666; 12-11-18 at 01:31 PM.
Al Bundy (12-11-18),alpha0ne (12-11-18),DB44 (12-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
He suffered mental issues he never sort help for.....
While that is a good portion of those with genuine mental issues...
It's also a good story (utter BS) in a case like this
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
Whats racist about calling a black turdball a black turdball? If he (yes, I mentioned gender. Makes me sexist I guess) were white and was called a white turdball would you be calling "racism"?
I doubt it. Because you're like the guy with nothing but a hammer, pretty soon everything looks like a nail.
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
The sad part is, we live in a country where the laws protect the attackers.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
LeroyPatrol (12-11-18)
He was suffering from a mental illness. It is just about incurable and very dangerous. We should certainly not be taking any further patients from overseas and should be deporting or at least locking up those we have already taken. The mental disease is called "Radical Islam".
Al Bundy (12-11-18),george65 (20-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
No Bob. The Greens belong in the joke thread. As now also do Liberal and Labor. I would vote for Pauline or Mark before any of these clowns, despite their many shortcomings. Australian Conservatives have some good policies and may be worth a look. They haven't attracted some of the problems and problem people associated with One Nation, at least so far. Sadly I'm not sure how far they have spread outside of South Australia, but they would seem to be the logical successors to the Libs.
LeroyPatrol (12-11-18)
Agreed, though I would have no difficulty accepting productive/educated ppl of a similar culture to ours instead of t
what we have now, migrants/refo's who are nothing but a burdon for generations to come
Re the usual BS mental illness, why is it nearly always from members of the muslim cult ??, does said cult (it is NOT a religion !!!!) encourage mental illness ?? or is it just a symptom of the indoctrination process ??
DB44 (12-11-18)
Muslims with mental illness for some reason feel a need to blow something up while trying to cut peoples heads off. Everyone else just sits around being miserable before necking themselves. Funny that.
Well done to trolley man. Yes, he has an extensive criminal record, but he jumped in and did his best to assist police, who he has no doubt had some serious run ins with. He also handed back a police badge lost in the chaos. People need to stand up and be counted, not run like a pack of chickens. Its the same every time, 75% run, 23% film it on their mobiles and 2% actually do something. I told my wife 5 years ago, if any of this shit ever happens anywhere near us I will give her my keys, my phone and I'm in. If I win , I win. If I don't, I had a crack and hopefully saved someone. If I die, I die. But I'll give them some grief before I do.
I would have no problem whatsoever shooting him and would not lose any sleep at all had I done it. Morally anyway, legally is another thing.
DB44 (12-11-18),lsemmens (13-11-18),VroomVroom (13-11-18)
The discrimination I was referring to was actually against religion not race, should have clarified that I guess but anyway...Sorry if you don't realize it, but that's a case of pretty nasty racism and two cases of advocating racial discrimination.
Maybe the nice politicians will stop removing our privacy & rights if we talk nicely about the radical religious people who don't like us?
Presumably you are from the PC Socialist Left that forbids any discussion that may offend. "Turned ?" I have always allowed free speech here, in fact I have moved the forum at least half a dozen times to support that. You have been around long enough to know that if you don't like the conversation, don't partake in it.
Now if you want a forum to bitch about, and tell them your woes about poor innocent Muslim terrorists with mental problems. Please do report back and let us know how you go, as I am looking for something humorous to read.
Certainly will, at an even higher degree if you want to sing the "poor mental Muslim" song to us. But if there is an attack on Melbourne by any of the following, I will back off :Carry on mutually pleasuring each other.
A Christian Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Catholic Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Hindu Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Buddhist Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Hari Krishna Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Seventh Day Adventist Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Jedi Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Sikism Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
A Taoism Fundamentalist armed with gas bottles and a knife that stabs 3 people
dude , you need to go to Specsavers . I wasnt being at all racist when i described the knife guy as a black turdball - I didnt know exactly which welfare leaching shithole country he was vomited out of so i was being descriptive. I saw it with my own eyes , he was BLACK. If he was white i would have called him a white turdball. If he was chinese i would have called him a chinese turdball , and so on.
Now it's the Polices fault.....FFS
Sheik Mohammed Omran tells ‘bloody PM’ Morrison: ‘blame police … not us’
Staff writers, News Corp Australia Network
November 13, 2018 1:29am
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The leader of an Islamic youth centre where Bourke Street terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali frequented prayer sessions has lashed out at Prime Minister Scott Morrison for blaming the Muslim community for the 30-year-old’s actions, rather than focusing on the police’s failure to prevent the Friday attack.
According to an exclusive interview in The Australian, Mohammed Omran, the emir of the Hume Islamic Youth Centre, slammed the “bloody Prime Minister’s’’ suggestion that imams needed to do more to stop Islamic extremists.
Sheik Mohammed Omran at a Melbourne mosque. Bourke Street terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali frequented a youth centre where the cleric was emir. Picture: Alex Coppel.
The Hume Islamic Youth Centre, which encompasses a mosque, cafe, gym and bookstore in the Melbourne suburb of #Coolaroo (near Shire Ali’s Meadow Heights home), has attracted jihadists and would-be terrorists, including #domestic terror plotters and suicide bombers who killed themselves in Iraq.
Sheik Omran told The Australian that the “Prime Minister’’ needed to be held #accountable for police and intelligence service inaction before he blamed Islamic leaders.
“This person was on the watch list,’’ the sheik told The Australian. “So what did they do? Nothing.
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Scott Morrison has called on Muslim leaders to be more aware of “infiltrators’’. Picture: AAP
Melbourne cleric sheik Mohammed Omran blamed police for the Bourke Street attack. Picture: Alex Coppel
“After he jumped in the street and started waving his knife to them — sometimes they are #running after him and sometimes they are running after them, and even the public interfered to take his attention because the police, they couldn’t handle him.
“First, we want to be really truthful with each other. This bloody Prime Minister, instead of turning the heat on somebody else, he should answer us about what he did.
“He has spent billions of dollars — billions — on security service. And what is the end result? We have crazy people in the street.’’
Members of the Victorian Police pay their respect to Sisto Malaspina, a beloved Bourke Street restaurateur, who was killed by a terrorist last week. Picture: Getty Images
Mr Mossison has said that imams needed to be more aware of “infiltrators’’ in their mosques and more ardent towards any sign of radicalisation.
Mr Morrison’s comments came in the wake of last Friday’s attack on Bourke Street, which left Sisto Malaspina, a beloved Bourke Street restaurateur, dead and two other #people with #serious knife wounds.
Bourke St offender Hassan Khalif Shire Ali. Picture: Supplied
Shire Ali was shot by police at the scene and later died in hospital.
The Australian also reported that Shire Ali’s partner is not co-operating with police as they try to reconstruct Shire Ali’s last movements.
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
hinekadon (13-11-18)
Poor old Santa ScoMo. He's on the news again this morning giving away more taxpayer's money in the fear of losing more votes. Mind you, why they would take money away from a charity providing meals in the first place is beyond me with all of the rubbish causes they support and the money they waste. The very suspicious barrier reef fund gift would have been a good start if they needed further funds.
And he's visiting the site in Melbourne before jetting off to a regional conference, where he is going to focus on counter-terrorism. That's all fine, but the murdering bastard was already here in Australia!
Read that this morning and just laughed.....
All part of the new Boaderless world.
Its going to be interesting when one of these nutters stabs or runs over one of our Politicians family members.
Yet stabbings happen every day of the week....
By normal Aussies (well perhaps not normal)....
The sad thing is, untill someone does something wrong, they can't be arrested.
And once they've done something wrong, it's too late.
Chequemate
Last edited by ol' boy; 13-11-18 at 09:39 AM.
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
VroomVroom (14-11-18)
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