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    Can only hope its a 13 year old kid having fun from his bedroom at other peoples expense.

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    looks like a DJI inspire if that is the right pic for the story. At the cost of them I doubt it is a kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by efab View Post
    looks like a DJI inspire if that is the right pic for the story. At the cost of them I doubt it is a kid
    For hobbyists major aiports are locked out with pre-progammed 'No Fly Zones'
    However it is possible to fly a DJI drone and others with clearance:
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    From Sussex Police (in the story)

    "The drone image in our previous tweets was used for illustrative purposes only and not the devices being sought. It is believed that the Gatwick devices used are of an industrial specification."

    I don't know what their definition of 'industrial specification' is.... but it suggests it's expensive and probably physically large.

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    2 days now and still going.....

    Imagine if they hit every UK Airport at once, would shut the country down
    That is all i've learned following this story
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    2 days now and still going.....

    Imagine if they hit every UK Airport at once, would shut the country down
    That is all i've learned following this story


    Somehow makes no sense.
    If they move away when somebody gets close to them then there is somebody watching and transmitting data.
    Surely possible to triangulate the transmitter. Especially if these things can stay up so long and it is been going on for over 24h.
    They are pretty powerfull and would produce a typical signal to identify them.

    Gosh Google can track every single one of you with your phone even without GPS but there is nobody in Britian capable of finding the transmitter?
    And doesn't anybody have jammers? Where is the military when you need it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    Somehow makes no sense.If they move away when somebody gets close to them then there is somebody watching and transmitting data.Surely possible to triangulate the transmitter. Especially if these things can stay up so long and it is been going on for over 24h. They are pretty powerfull and would produce a typical signal to identify them.Gosh Google can track every single one of you with your phone even without GPS but there is nobody in Britian capable of finding the transmitter?And doesn't anybody have jammers? Where is the military when you need it?
    Agreed, which makes me wonder if they are dealing with someone a bit "bigger".

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    so I doubt then it was a DJI. But many of the Chinese copies have no such firmware restrictions
    Seen a couple of home made jobs as well that are big.
    Wont take much for someone to get shot if this goes on, sad thing is the innocent get screwed around again

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    Or they could send in the Drone Busters!



    Where have i seen this before????? Ah yes.....




    Looks like Vic Pol is ready
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    This world is starting to make me laugh.......




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    Think I just figured out how they might be doing this while staying untraceable.
    The drone is autonomous and has some pre-programmed way points it visits.
    It is also carrying a mobile phone. The phone's camera is sending the video over the carrier's data network to somebody on the internet
    using VPN and a proxy tunnel of course. The user sends back data to a simple app on the phone that 'plays' a signal out of the headphone jack
    that contains information to move the drone to other way points or even fully controls it.


    If that is the case they could simply shut down the cell towers for a few minutes, get close and destroy it
    They already do that when terror attacks could be imminent. At least worth a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomeat View Post
    Think I just figured out how they might be doing this while staying untraceable.
    The drone is autonomous and has some pre-programmed way points it visits.
    It is also carrying a mobile phone. The phone's camera is sending the video over the carrier's data network to somebody on the internet
    using VPN and a proxy tunnel of course. The user sends back data to a simple app on the phone that 'plays' a signal out of the headphone jack
    that contains information to move the drone to other way points or even fully controls it.


    If that is the case they could simply shut down the cell towers for a few minutes, get close and destroy it
    They already do that when terror attacks could be imminent. At least worth a try.
    Or the drone is using image movement sensing software, so that as soon as it sees anything moving towards it, it moves to a pre set next waypoint, or a random point of a programmed group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m_54 View Post
    Or the drone is using image movement sensing software, so that as soon as it sees anything moving towards it, it moves to a pre set next waypoint, or a random point of a programmed group.
    Well if they really had an AI that could distinguish approaching objects at such far distance from other movements(IMO unlikely) then shutting down the cell towers would reveal that, other wise approach and destroy.
    Of course the designer could have built in a failsafe for lost signal and they move away from the airport, which would then allow flight movements again just with the annoyance of not using your cell phone at that time, a lesser evil IMO.
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    Gatwick airport is back to normal operations according to the report at .

    "Gatwick runway reopens after drone chaos.

    Gatwick's runway has reopened after drones caused the airport to shut down for more than a day.

    The airport, the UK's second busiest, said 837 flights were scheduled but there were delays and cancellations.

    Boss Chris Woodroofe said "mitigating measures" from the government and military had given him "confidence to reopen".

    The drone operator is still at large and police said it was possible they were an environmental activist.

    The airport is expected to be "back to normal" by the end of Saturday.



    Thousands of passengers - including some attending funerals, honeymoons and Christmas reunions with their families - remain stranded at Gatwick.

    The airport could not operate while the drones were in flight in case they hit and damaged a plane."

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    bloody idiots , i hope they get caught and all the people who suffered because of it sue them in
    civil court for $$$$$ loss ruing their lives for ever

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    2 people arrested over drone flying

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    The reports that...

    Gatwick drones:
    Two arrested over flight disruption




    Two people have been arrested in connection with a string of drone sightings which brought Gatwick Airport to a standstill.

    Sussex Police said it made the arrests at about 22:00 GMT on Friday.

    Flights from Gatwick were grounded for more than a day after the devices were seen near the runway.

    The force said "pro-active" investigations into "the criminal use of drones" continued, and urged the public to contact it with information.

    Police have yet to disclose the ages and genders of those arrested and where they were apprehended.

    Supt James Collis said officers remained at the airport, ready to "detect and mitigate" further drone flights by deploying a range of tactics.

    He asked passengers and people living nearby to remain vigilant and report any suspicions.

    "Every line of inquiry will remain open to us until we are confident that we have mitigated further threats to the safety of passengers," he added.
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    Would it not be possible to use a jamming device and force it down? Hell or just get close with a helicopter and shoot it with a shotgun. Doesn’t seem that hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjorg View Post
    Would it not be possible to use a jamming device and force it down?
    The 'jamming' signal would have to be very directional in order to ensure it did not interfere with other nearby communication services?

    There is also the obvious problem of risk to life and property by an out-of-control drone as it plummeted to earth.

    Hell or just get close with a helicopter and shoot it with a shotgun. Doesn’t seem that hard.
    I imagine that the drone operator would make the drone disappear as soon as a helicopter came within sight.

    There is also the risk to other people nearby from the shotgun pellets.

    Authorities have to obey the law just as much as you and I do.

    Your proposed solutions are as irresponsible as the action of the drone operator, if not worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjorg View Post
    Would it not be possible to use a jamming device and force it down? Hell or just get close with a helicopter and shoot it with a shotgun. Doesn’t seem that hard.
    I think it would be very easy to do this. Drones and many other things work in a specific bandwidth. With digital there are hundreds of frequencies within that band but a signal generator could be set to block all the frequencies within that band. Couple of things come to mind...

    I suspect the cops were not trying to down the drones as much as catch the culprits. They down the drone and the antagonist is likely to be pissed and go get another couple. They probably need to fine the source rather than the problem.

    Some drones when they loose signal have a return to home feature. Jamming the signal may invoke that which would be a good thing IF they could track the thing. They can Fly high or low and fast and that may not be so easy to do.

    I heard on a news report they were bringing in snipers. I laughed. No way a sniper could hit something like a drone. Way too fast and erratic moving and they have to have some clue when and where the thing would be. Now, Duck hunter with a Shotgun, different story.
    I doubt they would use a chopper unless it was military but shotgun would bring it down. I was only watching a vid last week about shotgun loads designed to take down Drones. They didn't really work. Some birdshot worked very well.

    As the drone seemed to have a camera as so many do, getting close enough to hit it was likley the problem but again. I think they were after the source of the problem rather than the cause.


    Your proposed solutions are as irresponsible as the action of the drone operator, if not worse.
    Actually Id say your arrogance combined with your ignorance is worse than the drone flyer. The other guys questions were about as far from irresponsible as your retort was justified. You clearly have no idea of either thing you lambasted others for suggesting and just wanted to take your High horse out for a ride. Pity it kicked you square in the face.

    You obviously have no idea about band with, signal strength or other very basic principals involved here.

    As for the shotgun idea, how many "Nearby people" do you think are going to be standing out in the middle of an airport near the runways? Or in your mind, did you see the cops blasting away within 50 M of the terminals and aircraft? You actually have zero knowledge or experience with shotguns do you?

    A local airport near me used to have a Trap shooting range on the edge of an airfield shooting towards the runways. Only reason they closed it was due to noise. In your ignorance, how far you think shotgun pellets travel? They are not the same as .50 cal rounds that's for sure!

    The only danger to people would be ignorants like you causing panic that people were going to be shot if you could see someone with a shotty...... which you wouldn't because they would be out in the middle of the field wouldn't they?

    Here's bit of a heads up for your enlightenment....
    The only problem with shooting the drone down with a Shotgun would be getting close enough in the first place to hit it with any force to be able to take it out.
    Hitting other people with the pellets or endangering property and life as the thing came down in the middle of nothingness out the middle of an airport is so ridiculous, I have to wonder if your indignation was some sort of a bad joke.

    And authorities having to obey the law like everyone else..... at a time of a crisis like this especially..... Were you actually sober and straight when you wrote this crap or just so hell bent on stepping on someone else to elevate your own non existent credibility you weren't worried about making yourself look like a complete and utter fool in he process?

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