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    Default General Motors to Sell Holden

    I guess this is not unexpected but will a shame to see the Holden name disappear.


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    Agreed ... such a shame if this happens

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    Wow, 163 years I had to check wiki to confirm that that.
    Maybe they should go back to making saddles

    I guess all things must end eventually. Personally I was more of a fan of the 50's and 60's models (as a kid) and later on the unbreakable Kingswood station wagon that I drove around pretty much everywhere including off road on my Gold fossicking tours, never need a camping site or a tent. Great memories.
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    Grew up with Holdens.
    Dad was head of the parts and service division of a large Sydney dealership from as young as I could remember to my teens. Never knew what he was going to come home with but I clearly remember Xu-1's and SLR=5000's as his company cars, for a while at least. Getting dropped off to school in an SLR made me the coolest kid in the place for a week at least. Every time! :0)
    Dad also had statesmans and premier's or anything he wanted. Was part of his package and he apparently did his job well. I remember him going to put in his resignation and coming home in a new Caprice as the agreement to keep him on was he got whatever car he wanted as well as a big raise. I remember Mum wanting him to leave and then being very happy he stayed so the money must have been good. I remember her driving a Gemini for a while too that was a company car. Dad never owned a car of his own for about 12 years.

    Pretty much everyone we knew and everyone in the family had a Holden. I remember one uncle with a Ford but maybe Dad got to him because he replaced it with a Nice red Hq wagon that I think he did a Ted bullpit on and used to Mr. Sheen the towball.

    Unfortunately the traditions and culture of Holden are now dead and buried of this most Aussie icon. The name is really all that's left. The vehicles are imported plastic weak shit just like any Korean or other foreign made crap.
    I think the korean stuff is better actually.

    I really can't see Holden lasting although in reality, it is already dead. At least ford sells ford products. Not like Holden that at best sell re labelled virtual knockoffs. Kinda like Chinese mass market crap that they will print your own brand name on.

    Funny enough, after Dad did eventually leave the dealership, after it was taken over by Chrysler and he couldn't put up with the things a moment longer, he went into his own parts business for a good while then went into a wrecking yard and specialises in Subaru exclusively. I see the group looking to take over Holden are the ones behind Subaru here.

    I have a Holden ute that I will never sell for sentimental reasons although I want to drive it less. Get too nervous some clown will take it out running into me and I'll loose it. Don't take much to write something off now. Maybe I should buy another one and a bunch of parts to make sure it's around as long as I am. With a bit of luck my daughter may hang on to is as well as it means a lot to her too.
    By then Holden will probably only exist in history.

    Makes you wonder how such an revered and culturally entrenched company can be so mismanaged that it disappears all together as will I believe inevitably happen.

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    I drive a Holden. My last two cars were Holdens. Great cars, as good or better as any comparable car from overseas. All were built here.

    I've owned Fords. Nothing wrong with them either.

    I'm not sad about this, just resigned to the inevitable. It's the way of the modern world.
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    Holden man here too. Avatar shows what's in the garage as well as the 2018 Holden Colorado in the other garage. Shame GM, shame.
    You can learn alot using Google, and the search button.....

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    I reckon its a dead duck now , Holden was only kept afloat by government handouts in the last few years. I remember even in the 80's with sales going through the roof they were almost broke and the govt had to bail them out.

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    I was always a Fraud man, the EA cured me. I did own an EL for a period, but much prefer the Calais and Statesman that replaced it. Now I still have an re-badged Isuzu - Jackaroo. My main car these days is Korean.
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    Nothing left to sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    I drive a Holden. My last two cars were Holdens. Great cars, as good or better as any comparable car from overseas. All were built here.

    I've owned Fords. Nothing wrong with them either.
    This was what many failed to acknowledge and the local motoring media did nothing to dispel and a lot to create.
    The local cars were a lot tougher than the Euros and were up to standard for our conditions. I have some well heeled mates that have the Euro stuff, High end BMW's Porches, Range rovers and more. Driven loads of them... very frequently to and from stealerships for servicing and repair.

    Lots of things go wrong with relatively new euros and the prices for repairs..... I had a statesman for a while and had none of the trouble my mates had with their euro wanks. Much as they used to make excuses, the 6L in my statesman left a lot of their " Performance" stuff for dead and was still more economical. Could tow a boat or a trailer and take a ship load of stuff for family holidays. If it did have a problem or you were away there was a supercheap in every town that had could work on the things. Try that with your merc, Porsche beemer. My fathers merc has tyres that have to be specially ordered in because no tyre place keeps them on the shelf. Whenever I take him anywhere now we always take his Subaru that has a spare to start with.

    Yeah, put shit on the local car but at the end of the day, it delivered the goods.... and lasted a lot longer and broke a lot less. And the car didn't cost $200K or set me back $5K for an oil and filter change and empty the ash tray.

    People would get in the thing and say wow and then comment after driving in it a while how comfortable was. Thing handled real well for a boat as well and I never got left behind well heeled mates cars. I remember going with a couple of mates down the bends at stanwell park. They couldn't keep up with me despite the howling tyres and ragged driving. The Statesman just stuck to the road down there unstressed and composed. Might have been a lot different round a track but if I wanted a track car, I'd have one set up uncomfortably for that.

    As my Ford fan Brother in law says, we won't realise what we have lost for a while yet but when it sinks in, people are going to get a real wake up call.

    He;s right. We had a unique type of vehicle that was suited to our conditions but they still exported around the world for a long time. The failure of out industry was all in the management.
    I believe they got the cars themselves wrong in the latter years, maybe 10 years or so before the end and they failed to keep up with the wants and needs of the mass market. They could have been more aware of the changing trends in what customers wanted and designed models that were still ours but kept up with the times. Really, how hard could it have been, look at what's wiping the floor with you in sales and copy the features that are making it sell and put your own spin on it with what you know makes your cars sell.

    Hardly Rocket Surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george65 View Post
    the 6L in my statesman left a lot of their " Performance" stuff for dead and was still more economical. Could tow a boat or a trailer and take a ship load of stuff for family holidays.
    And that is exactly what the majority of the Australian public did not want and GMH continued to ignore that, along with Ford - hence why they extinct now.

    Sorry but my Euro car is far more reliable than any Holden, has better build quality and has half the engine size for more power. Dunnydores were ok as taxis but not much more.

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    Sorry but my Euro car is far more reliable than any Holden.............
    Don't tell that to Hoe, He thinks he's doing well to only get million Km out of a Fraud.
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    Getting a million km out of a car is not uncommon - just look at taxis. All brands can do it.

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    Ive only ever owned Holdens.......
    I suppose my new username may be Cheapsi!ttyimportsjeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    And that is exactly what the majority of the Australian public did not want and GMH continued to ignore that, along with Ford - hence why they extinct now.

    Sorry but my Euro car is far more reliable than any Holden, has better build quality and has half the engine size for more power. Dunnydores were ok as taxis but not much more.
    Dont want to get into a sh!tfight here but the build quality, reliability, peformance of my VEII SS was excellent and comparable to any of my friends with Euros and Asians. We all compared them and there was practically no difference except mine had a tow ball and could tow theirs.

    You can screw performance out of ANYTHING, but long term RELIABLE performance is a different kettle of fish. I'd back mine to get there every time on a long drive on Aussie country roads. I did trips to Perth...all over WA, QLD rural and it never let me down. Well, except for the head on with a Mazda that is.

    The VF Redline I now own had a recall after engine failure, so It's not as good in that regard, although a Christmas thrash all over Qld afterward, and it's been perfect.

    "Sorry but my Euro car is far more reliable than any Holden, has better build quality " Crap.

    Oh, I'll probably buy a euro next time ..... but that was the plan anyway, although the Stinger appeals.
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    I guess these days good service gives you the reliability unless you got a lemon.

    Back then I never serviced anything, just oil/filters. I think I bought the old Kingswood already with 500,000km.

    I don't trust today's overly complicated new cars, that suddenly go in survival mode or just shut down because of a software glitch. I still drive 22y/o Nissan SUV.

    Waiting until I can afford a PHEV, totally complicated but I am going to mod the EV side of it to hell, because that is what I like doing. Bypass the software crap and build my own backup controller/charge management.
    This era of thoughtless consumption must end so we can encourage a world of creative geniuses rather than consumer idiots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    The VF Redline I now own had a recall after engine failure,
    Says it all

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Says it all
    Bwahahaha....

    Not it doesn't...I got a less than perfect one. Happens.

    Happens to Euros ALL the time too... But hey, blather on.
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    I got a new engine in my Hyundai after a recall, too. So it ain't just one brand, given that that particular engine was part of a recall for other makes, too.
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    In my opinion, Holden went down the gurgler a few years ago and that's why they are struggling. I am not bagging the Commodore, which has always generally been a good car, but what else has been good in recent years ?

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