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    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Any unauthourised boats in out waters should be navy Target Practice.

    Let a couple go out of a group to go back and tell there others.
    Boat/ illigeal immigrant problems solved.

    I'm way past any sympathy for these complaining , bludging whingers. Plenty of our own that need looking after first.

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    Then. perhaps, you should edit pheggies post to correct the close quote mark, all I did was quote his quote.
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    Because it has been declared that they are genuine refugees - please research before engaging the keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Because it has been declared that they are genuine refugees - please research before engaging the keyboard.
    As genuine refugees they are free to seek asylum in any country that is a Signatory to the UN agreement on Refugees.
    They are not captive and free to travel anywhere in the world except Australia.
    The fact they are still sitting there bludging off the Australian Taxpayer says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Because it has been declared that they are genuine refugees - please research before engaging the keyboard.
    Not all of them, and those that are declared Refos have only been by Nauru AFAIAW. That situation is further complicated by our security agencies wariness of their risk to security.
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post

    Why would ANYONE want to go to America? Jeeeez nomeat, tell me how much welfare they'll get there? Or is America and Trump now on your buddy list? Didn't some go and want to come back?
    You are totally missing the point.
    I don't give a fvck if some do and don't like it in the USA. Most refugees come from countries that wouldn't even have access to news that report that.

    I am pissed off that we pay $1Billion for the stuck 1000 refugees each year that shouldn't be there in the first place. If we give them to NZ, problem solved.
    It is totally pathetic to think that would start a boat invasion, when we continue with the turn back strategy.

    I don't know what Shorten will do in the future but as of now he has no deal with the Greens, so I see no reason why he would make himself so unpopular to simply open up the borders. That is just fantasy and I can only hope they don't get a majority(with the Greens) and the cross bench will keep things in check.
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    [QUOTE=nomeat;795557]So you just choose to ignore the facts:
    For example, while we are told that they have "stopped the boats", little has been said about 27,000 on-shore . Most claimants have come by plane from Malaysia and China.[/QUOTE]
    The facts are:

    People arriving by plane have passports. They are verified at their point of departure, and they are verified upon arrival. They arrive here legally. Their name can be verified, their country of origin can be verified, their family, friends, sponsors can be verified. While 27,000 plane arrivals may make a claim for refugee asylum, most are refused because their verified details prove they are not legitimate refugees.

    Those who arrive by boat destroy their passports. Their details cannot be verified. Their departure point cannot be determined, and in most cases the boats depart from ports in countries that are signatories to the UN Refugee Convention. They choose Australia for _economic_ reasons, not for legitimate refuge reasons. As been been shown time and time again many falsify their details to ensure their claim is processed. While there are certainly legitimate refugees who arrive by boat, most will never be properly verified or vetted, yet they are permitted access to Australia.

    That article fails to cover the most important stats. During the 2010-2013 boarder policies of the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd years arrivals by boat were seen to _exceed_ arrivals by plane. That in itself should be a red flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post

    Those who arrive by boat destroy their passports. Their details cannot be verified.
    Thats right , the illegals have all their passports and visas in order when they land in Jakarta , and even while they live in Indonesia waiting for thier boat. They even have thier passports on the bus ride to Cilacap and for the first 50klm out at sea. But when they get to Xmas Island thier passports are nowhere to be seen?
    these illegals are nothing but liars and criminals , and thats how they should be treated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VroomVroom View Post
    these illegals are nothing but liars and criminals , and thats how they should be treated.
    ....which is target practice. :0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Because it has been declared that they are genuine refugees - please research before engaging the keyboard.
    Ditto and don't be in such a rush to push soft of heart and head agenda's. We have enough imported shit here already.

    I have personally met several, very good, decent people that have skills, would fit well in and would contribute to the country that can't get in the joint despite trying for many years and these illegals are part of the reason why.

    They are no different to the hoards of muzscum that tracked across Europe like locust through many countries to get to Germany because they knew they had a bleeding heart policy and a generous welfare system. Do your research on that and see where that has got the krauts. So many no go areas now even the cops won't go near and the only thing they have contributed to German society is Violence, crime and a massive drain on the system.
    If Winston could have got a plauge like that to infect the Krauts in '42 the war would have been over by '43.

    The boaties have not been declared genuine refugees when they arrive at all and it is well known and demonstrated a lot of them are just looking to skip the cue and ride the oz welfare gravy train. Even when they do get in, a high proportion of them are permanently on social security and milking the system for all it's worth for the rest of their bludging lives. They won't learn the lanuage and all they want to do much of the time is stay in their own little enclaves. The stats are hard to find as it's not what the gubbermint wants people knowing but the info can be found. Do your own research.
    The only thing they are fleeing is a normal working life in their own country.

    Genuine refugees don't have the money to pay these people smugglers for a start, they are just looking to get in when they know damn well they wouldn't otherwise or would have to wait their turn.

    Australia is known as a soft touch to these pests and the smugglers profiting from them. There needs to be a real clear messages sent to come in the right way or risk the consequences of being sunk upon discovery.
    Hong Kong did it and cleared their pest problem virtually overnight.

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    till the government actually grow a pair it will never change.

    quickest way to stop the boat is to put in law

    1: any captain and crew who get caught will get mandatory life in prison.
    2: all onboard immediately sent back.

    and if they get here they are to be housed in the doogooders
    home and not the tax payer covering the costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fandtm666 View Post
    till the government actually grow a pair it will never change.

    quickest way to stop the boat is to put in law

    1: any captain and crew who get caught will get mandatory life in prison.
    2: all onboard immediately sent back.
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    It’s hard to make this a non-political argument, but that is almost verbatim what the LNP Government put in place to ‘stop the boats’. And, unsurprisingly, it stopped the boats.

    1. Captains and crews are liable for large penalties and large jail terms. Their boats are destroyed.
    2. No arrival by boat is settled in Australia. All are processed and sent to other signatory countries.
    3. Turn back were also permitted, meaning intercepted boats were returned to their departure point and not brought to Australia.

    It’s important to note that the few asylum seekers who still remain arrived during the policy changes brought in by the Labor Governments between 2007 and 2013.

    Only 1 asylum boat has arrived since the policy changes of the LNP Government that came in late 2013. Yes, in more than 4 years only 1 illegal asylum boat has arrived in Australia.

    Compare that to the recorded 549 illegal asylum boats that arrived in Australia under the 6 years of the changed Labor Government policy.

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    Still think it's over ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by fandtm666 View Post
    till the government actually grow a pair it will never change.

    quickest way to stop the boat is to put in law

    1: any captain and crew who get caught will get mandatory life in prison.
    2: all onboard immediately sent back.

    and if they get here they are to be housed in the doogooders
    home and not the tax payer covering the costs.
    So the Qantas captain and crew will get Life.

    All tourists on the Qantas A380 or Jumbo get sent back.

    Well that is how asylum seekers get here these days. Was it 16,000 last year - boats a nuffin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    So the Qantas captain and crew will get Life.

    All tourists on the Qantas A380 or Jumbo get sent back.

    Well that is how asylum seekers get here these days. Was it 16,000 last year - boats a nuffin.
    This where Labor fail. They should say where ALL the illegal people are coming from not just the boat people.

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    Did the boats ever stop coming?
    If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    Did the boats ever stop coming?
    Yes, almost totally.
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    So the Qantas captain and crew will get Life.

    All tourists on the Qantas A380 or Jumbo get sent back.

    Well that is how asylum seekers get here these days. Was it 16,000 last year - boats a nuffin.
    Sigh! Tiresome. Post 28 covers this......

    Thats right too. Boats a nuffin!!!
    The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.

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    The easiest way to stop ALL refugees is to close our borders entirely! Nothing in or out. See how long that lasts......
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