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    Default Satellite internet in Aus Outback

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    Does anyone have experience with satellite internet? Especially on a moving car convoy.

    I'm looking for experience with setting up thales mission link and the likes

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    I could only think of using the same system as used on boats/ships.
    But what you have mentioned looks impressive, i hadn't heard of it



    What Thales is providing for the US Army and NASA is next level impressive!

    You should get one and let us know how it goes


    I thought Optus had a solution for Australia years ago
    Here are some options:


    Sat Sleeve

    A very small device with speeds of 60kbps download and 15kbps upload (Like what Dial Up was) and speeds are only useful for very basic web pages and text based emails.

    Pivotel charges $79 per month with the first 80mb included and then every additional MB is $5 per mb.


    Optus charges $15 per month with no data included and data is charged at $2.5 per mb.


    (If you were to need less than 25mb or more than 135mb data go with Optus otherwise it works out cheaper to go with Pivotel)

    ANT Portable Satellite (Optus Satellite)


    Runs on the Optus Satellite They generally sell the unit for $3450

    Data Costs
    0.5mpbs download/ 0.256mbps upload

    0.5GB $29
    1GB $49
    2GB $69
    3GB $89
    5GB $149

    1mbps download/ 0.256mbps upload

    5GB $300

    BGAN

    Hire and Data is around 250kbps download and 150kbps upload.

    A service that's billed at a crazy $5 per MB after you purchase the pay $15 per month plan + device hire


    Hire up to 7 days for $225 with prepaid prices below

    $189 5mb
    $525 54mb
    $1020 109mb
    $1995 274mb
    $3950 549mb

    Kymeta

    If you have deep pockets, this might be to your liking
    BUT, it only covers 1/3 of AU and its the 1/3 that already has a 3G/4G network in most places

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    the only service i know of is by thai group and you would need a 1.5meter dish mounted on your car ?? and be stationary . Cant remember the sat designation but the local ham club uses one for lansar purposes and we provide the service to the police who pay for the costs plus donations to the club not mobile but we wifi it to them and have control over the system , have worked on shipping coms with auto gyros but they are huge and gps controlled hydralics and are pretty ratshit in rough weather
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    Hi Oceanboy

    Thanks for the extensive answer! I may get my hands on one of those. I was wondering if anyone already had experience with it.

    I'll give you some more context about the application. I'm looking for solutions to get (near) real time weather data in the outback while driving. Untill now, I've found two possible options:

    1) Download Himawari 8 images directly from the JcSAT2B relay satellite. This however requires a 2.7m dish, which will not go well while driving.

    2) Download them using satellite internet, but this also appears to be a challenge. Mostly since equipment seems to be pretty expensive, not mentioning data cost.

    I will further look into it!

    Regards,


    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    I could only think of using the same system as used on boats/ships.
    But what you have mentioned looks impressive, i hadn't heard of it



    What Thales is providing for the US Army and NASA is next level impressive!

    You should get one and let us know how it goes


    I thought Optus had a solution for Australia years ago
    Here are some options:


    Sat Sleeve

    A very small device with speeds of 60kbps download and 15kbps upload (Like what Dial Up was) and speeds are only useful for very basic web pages and text based emails.

    Pivotel charges $79 per month with the first 80mb included and then every additional MB is $5 per mb.


    Optus charges $15 per month with no data included and data is charged at $2.5 per mb.


    (If you were to need less than 25mb or more than 135mb data go with Optus otherwise it works out cheaper to go with Pivotel)

    ANT Portable Satellite (Optus Satellite)


    Runs on the Optus Satellite They generally sell the unit for $3450

    Data Costs
    0.5mpbs download/ 0.256mbps upload

    0.5GB $29
    1GB $49
    2GB $69
    3GB $89
    5GB $149

    1mbps download/ 0.256mbps upload

    5GB $300

    BGAN

    Hire and Data is around 250kbps download and 150kbps upload.

    A service that's billed at a crazy $5 per MB after you purchase the pay $15 per month plan + device hire


    Hire up to 7 days for $225 with prepaid prices below

    $189 5mb
    $525 54mb
    $1020 109mb
    $1995 274mb
    $3950 549mb

    Kymeta

    If you have deep pockets, this might be to your liking
    BUT, it only covers 1/3 of AU and its the 1/3 that already has a 3G/4G network in most places


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    Hi hinekadon

    Thanks for the answer! when searching for solutions, I basically find two types:

    - the bulky type where you have a dish mounted on a trailer or car. These however will not go well while driving.
    (e.g.:)
    - the small, car-roof mounted products that seem to deliver the same service.
    (e.g.: )

    I can however not believe that there is no difference in speed or bandwidth?

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    perhaps you better look at the ads again they are for hotspots set up by you connected those to a sat you may not understand how it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Solar View Post
    I'm looking for solutions to get (near) real time weather data in the outback while driving.
    When are you expecting to be driving in the Australian outback?

    Your introduction thread says you are in Belgium.

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    Hi mtv

    I will be going mid to end 2019

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    From my understanding, the Mission Link antenna connects with the satellite and then sets up a Wi-Fi hotspot, to which 12 devices can connect. Is this not how it works? If not, could you explain it to me?


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    perhaps you better look at the ads again they are for hotspots set up by you connected those to a sat you may not understand how it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Solar View Post
    From my understanding, the Mission Link antenna connects with the satellite and then sets up a Wi-Fi hotspot, to which 12 devices can connect. Is this not how it works? If not, could you explain it to me?
    Maybe better to email them directly with your plans
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    nearly right but back to front mission link is the hotspot , lets look at it sensibly you need a big dish to get the rf signal strong enough to do anything with ok. Next you need to be able to get it to your mobiles . Then to other terrains from the hotspot to other mobiles
    the satellites are ripping around the earth at high speed and and all get the same ( packets ) but at different times depending on the position of the up link the uplink power determines if you get into it or not therefore a dish is required to give enough boost and direction to get there ???? from memory the circle every 91/96 mins around the earth so you need to store and forward (the (packets you are going to send or receive ) got it now ????
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