OceanBoy sorry I missed the quote function of your interesting and well reasoned post.
You could be right about who wrote the legislation but nevertheless it is there.
I have been on the forum for a while now and participated in a number of the spirited "General Chat" discussion - some have been extreme right wing, some have been extreme left wing, some have been where my opinions live in the middle. One discussion was about what right and left wing mean so we dont need to go there again.
Even on this thread, if you ignore George65 for the moment there has been spirited discussion on both sides of the argument - and that is great, that is free speech - I dont agree with some of it but it is a fair expression of views and that is all OK - as I said in a previous post I am glad to see reasoned discussion by other members on the thread, even though I do not agree with their positions.
I think that some members have publicly indicated they are now blocking George65 because of his views is great but nevertheless his propaganda is still being published even if you cannot see it.
So in my view George65 has crossed a line and in my view he has the views that led to this terrorist act and in my view also break the Vilification Laws of our country - you may not agree but they are there - if you dont like them then vote in politicians who will try to change them. Fraser Anning maybe.
Read George65 posts - it is a sad indictment of the views that some people in our society have and unfortunately sometimes they act on their views.
Last edited by garrycol; 19-03-19 at 02:26 PM.
Looks like you will run afoul of the laws yourself then garry because I am certainly offended and insulted at your remarks and as disliked here aqs I am, it seems that you have offended and insulted others as well.Originally Posted by garrycol
Well I defended colour and said it was non exclusive, also made the point my comments were not race related or had anything to do with nationality.and the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person, or of some or all of the people in the group.
Maybe you can point out with detail and precision exactly what I said that contravened the law in your view? As you seem completely ignorant to as all lefty whingers are, Race is NOT the same as religion. I can't understand how people can not get that through their empty heads.
Unfortunately if you did put me into the cops you merely wasted time they could have put to finding real threats. As I said, I'm well known to the police, probably be in touch with them again in the next couple of days, as usual. I'm sure if you put me in, they will pull my file up, take one look and go Yeah right and move on to the next time wasting fanatical report from another bleeding heart do gooder.
Of course not only have you sought a vendetta against me, but on this forum and everyone on it. Now you are trying to intimidate the forum owners, mods and others alleging they too have engaged in criminal activity. I guess that's a ploy to get them to ban me and remove what I have written. I don't think the powers that be are stupid enough to fall for being played for suckers by people like yourself.
As you feel the forum has/ is violating the law, I guess you will be not coming back and participating here anymore less you make yourself an accomplice to the behavior you say is illegal. You have offended and insulted people as well so maybe we'll end up as cell mates together?
I think you have brought a lot more discredit on yourself than you have me.
I would like to apologise to other people here, not for what I have said on this issue but getting carried away on others.
Some of what I have said HAS been taken the wrong way which I never intended, but none the less, I said it, and am responsible and I apologise. I am hot headed in real life and have too short a fuse but will try to take my chill pills and not be such an arsehole in future. I was not always like this but I have let other things I struggle with get the better of me when I should not and I realise that is a bad mistake on my part.
I will try not to make things seem as personal as I have because in the majority of cases, it has come out not as I meant but by the same token I deliberately said the wrong things as well.
To those I have offended ( except garrycol whom I have no respect for at all) intentionally or not, I sincerely apologise .
Last edited by george65; 19-03-19 at 02:41 PM.
And THATS why the future leftists who don't support free speech defined it so broadly. That gives them the broad ability to lock up or punish those that disagree with them.
The current government gave an undertaking to get rid of these laws, but wimped it because the ALP and Greens would not allow them to....so it's really on them. The totalitarian "no free speech" state is coming.
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
Yes, China is investing heavily
Oh... you mean we are also kicking some "Home Goals" too.... greatChinese investors have poured $40b into Australia in four years
If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!
For those who don't read George65's posts, sorry looking at you OB:
I don't have a problem when somebody has a different opinion but George65 certainly openly has.
When I said that I wanted for my children to breath the air in cities one day with less pollution this was his response:
This was a publicly announced personal threat to assault me if I were standing next to him.
It think I took it far too lightly when I merely reported the post but Admin didn't have a problem with it. Guess I am lucky he doesn't live next door.
After that he goes on to defame my children with his generalising crock:
Look I don't know, what would you guys think if he personally compares your kids to some spoilt brats brought up by bogans like that after you have spent decades ensuring that they are not!
YEAH RIGHT, all freedom of speech.
This shyte all falls in the same basket just like his Muslim hate filth he so proudly displays here:
ENJOY!
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Well the devil is in the detail of the legislation on who can be offended. If you feel you have been offended then lodge a complaint with the authorities and see how far you will get.
OHHHH for fu*k sake get over yourself and stop acting like a woman................is that your preferred pronoun ??
Getting offended over a post.............grow a skin or become a member of the perpetually offended brigade, your choice
if you don't like what you read or see on the internet i suggest you get disconnected.
So you can't provide a quote to back up your previous statement?
I interpret that as because you disagree with him you made it up.
The fact that there's a highway to hell and a stairway to heaven says a lot about the anticipated traffic flow.
You can't have it both ways, its either Open and Free Speech, or its not, take your pick!
Cheers
Ted (Al)
Wow...someone has a different opinion to you & all of a sudden they're a national security threat?
Did you also ring 000 when facebook went down the other day?
alpha0ne (19-03-19),eeprommemory (19-03-19),hinekadon (19-03-19)
Dont you dareeeee trivialize what amounts to a worldwide disaster......................think of all the wimin who would actually have to talk to each other........................instead of using their fingers.........
OHHHH f*ck me...............my earrrrrrss
Another article with linkage to back up their claim re the
Withholding the truth, when relevant, is the same as out right lying in my book
eeprommemory (19-03-19),enf (19-03-19),hinekadon (19-03-19)
Indeed...wonder if they all walked around saying "like me, like me, so I can feel more important" to each other?
And the other day was only a handful of sites down, the way we're being forced to do more and more online when it all finally does come crashing down most of the world will probably stop.
Reminds me a little of a movie from many many moons ago, people most of their lives had been hooked up to machines or a computer or something, at the end the machine/computer was destroyed & all the people walked outside for the first time in years, blinking in the sunlight, totally lost etc...
Oops, a little off topic there...
You may of course interpret it as you wish. You are perfectly entitled to be wrong. I made it perfectly clear that I was drawing an inference based on the contents of his post and its context. Even if you believe I was wrong in doing so, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why I chose to draw the inference that I did. Not everything is set down in black and white with a convenient quote. You need to be a little less literal, I'm afraid.
Well it was a pretty strong 'literal' accusation on your behalf, and I saw no evidence of what you were accusing so I called you on it.
I read his post and yours several times before I commented, nowhere in any of his posts does he condone the killing of children.
In post 65 he mentions how that parasite murderer chose the Mosque he did because there were fewer children at it, then gives his interpretation of how he believes Muslims & Westerners view children differently.
I don't understand how you drew the inference you did from what was posted, feel free to explain it to this non rocket scientist.
I understand not everything will have a convenient black and white quote, but I also understand when making a call like that against someone, which is a pretty strong accusation, without being able to provide any evidence of such an accusation when called on it, it doesn't do the accusers credibility any favours.
DB44 (19-03-19)
Why did George choose to post in this thread and context that Muslims in general (not just Muslim extremists) are a culture of monsters who use their children as suicide bombers and clearly don't value them?
In my view there is no justification for killing children in a terrorist attack ever, be they Muslim or otherwise. It is simply not relevant in this thread and this context whether some Muslims (or in George's post all of them) don't value their children. We do. Nor is it relevant that this monster supposedly picked mosques with less children. He deliberately murdered them just as surely and callously as any Muslim terrorist. The implication that I drew. rightly or wrongly, and that I stand by is that his post was excusing to at least some extent the killing of Muslim children, on the basis that Muslim's don't value them so why should we. And I took his express statement that this attacker chose mosques with less children as making his actions more acceptable. George's posts are often not a model of clarity or consistency, and I would like to think that this was not his intention. But his post in places seems to condemn the killing of children at the same time he raises issues which seem to condone just that, at least to some extent. I was hoping that he would later clarify his views both on this and on the manifesto itself, with which he seems to have too much sympathy with for my liking. However, George is now on my ignore list, so if he does I doubt I will see it.
Last edited by DB44; 19-03-19 at 08:36 PM.
Instead of writing another post, i'll leave this here
(As much as this chick shits me, especially her voice, there are some factual and interesting points being made)
Probably just skip to the last half if it is boring you to tears
Last edited by ol' boy; 19-03-19 at 09:20 PM.
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Reschs (19-03-19),VroomVroom (20-03-19)
Good Enf, lets talk about that.
I am done with Muslim hate crime for now.
In all those past periods you show there was no freedom of speech.
I think it really erupted around the 1960's, yay we baby boomers 'invented' it, like so many others things that today's millennial world take for granted like computers and the internet and I am talking late 1960's into the 70's here.
At the same time some of us, including me went on the streets in demos against the establishment. Yeah I know it was a bit of a hip thing to impress the girls but
we were basically fighting for 'peoples rights' and more Freedom of Speech(at least we thought so), which was largely frowned upon by the conservatives so you could definitely call us lefties at that time because we dared to disagree with the wars of that time.
At lot was expressed in the music at that time too where I played a very small part.
I would say freedom of speech peaked shortly after the iron curtain fell and Russia opened up to the western world. Kind of went well for another few years but sometime after the new millennium things started to go backwards.
At the same time information was everywhere, so easily available and everything you say could spread like wildfire.
Now to my point ...finally:
In the past when you said something insulting, only the blokes in the pub or the school yard heard it and you would get bashed and then you would probably be a bit more careful what you say next time. That was how "Freedom of Speech" was dealt with !!!
Today you post it on FaceBook, Twitter, Forums, whatever and a 'million' people know about it.
So from that million maybe 50,000 want to bash you but they can't so nobody stops you.
People start insulting each other more and more and get away with it and those who are insulted can't bash you so they get frustrated and some develop all kinds of mental issues instead.
Today we have people committing suicides because of FaceBook posts but many more just get upset without finding ways to deal with it, like bash the bastard.
So we have now created a generation of people who get upset about almost anything while at the same time we have verbal bullies who think they can get away with anything because of "freedom of speech".
This where the lefties come back in, those who originally fought for more freedom speech are now banning it with Political correctness in order to tame it.
+ (capital PLUS) we have way more population in the world to offend with less and less space.
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