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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha0ne View Post
    Re the silly idea as to giving the lower class's the money...............................ARE YOU INSANE !!!!!!!....................how will 'they' prop up the share market if all the magic money goes to the rabble................who would just squander it all on food/paying bills/healthcare/the mortgage/a new truck
    You are being sarcastic, right?

    The idea is to spend not hoard it.
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    I've long been of the view that Labor was going to win easily. The Coalition has been a rabble from shortly after its election, and thoroughly deserves a good kick up the backside. I myself was getting out the steel capped boots and looking forward to a bit of the old Balmain folk dancing on polling day. I was planning to vote for some of the minors or independents, preferencing the Coalition after Labor and before only the Greens. I hate to say it but I am seriously considering holding my nose and voting for this terrible Coalition, little though they deserve it. I've watched in increasing horror as Labor under Shorten, apparently thinking they have already won, announce one terrible and/or dangerous policy after another. I give them points for courage and honesty, but take some away for arrogance. The theory seems to be that the Coalition is so bad that they can announce just about anything they want to do and claim a mandate for it after an inevitable victory. Labor are still front runners, but I'm starting to think that this woeful Coalition may in fact be in with a real chance. Labor have only themselves to blame. This should have been an unlosable election for Labor, yet they seem to be increasingly in danger of losing it. Anyone else see things this way?
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    Bill Shortarse is the best advertisment for the Coalition that the Libs have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madtech View Post
    Clives vote shows just how on the nose the major parties are...... no I am not a Clive supporter, in my opinion all politicians are low life, lying, self serving scum
    Clive’s popularity shows how gullible many voters are, and how paying for a bunch of false and misleading ads wins votes because voters don’t bother to check facts themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post
    Clive’s popularity shows how gullible many voters are, and how paying for a bunch of false and misleading ads wins votes because voters don’t bother to check facts themselves.
    Agree. Although he's only doing what GetUp does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DB44 View Post
    I've long been of the view that Labor was going to win easily. The Coalition has been a rabble from shortly after its election, and thoroughly deserves a good kick up the backside. I myself was getting out the steel capped boots and looking forward to a bit of the old Balmain folk dancing on polling day. I was planning to vote for some of the minors or independents, preferencing the Coalition after Labor and before only the Greens. I hate to say it but I am seriously considering holding my nose and voting for this terrible Coalition, little though they deserve it. I've watched in increasing horror as Labor under Shorten, apparently thinking they have already won, announce one terrible and/or dangerous policy after another. I give them points for courage and honesty, but take some away for arrogance. The theory seems to be that the Coalition is so bad that they can announce just about anything they want to do and claim a mandate for it after an inevitable victory. Labor are still front runners, but I'm starting to think that this woeful Coalition may in fact be in with a real chance. Labor have only themselves to blame. This should have been an unlosable election for Labor, yet they seem to be increasingly in danger of losing it. Anyone else see things this way?
    Yep. That's why I think the 2004 election is a good analogue to this.

    Labor lost the unlosable election in NSW a month ago.

    And then there's this >
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    Quote Originally Posted by PZ. View Post
    Yep. That's why I think the 2004 election is a good analogue to this.

    Labor lost the unlosable election in NSW a month ago.

    And then there's this >
    Hmmm...it's been my experience with elections that the gap between parties always narrows the closer an election gets. It's just the way it is as people swing in behind their usual lot.

    The difference is always quite small and in a few seats only. A landslide win is really just a few thousand swinging votes doing their thing. Bill Shorten (interesting letters those....BS) has done himself no favours by promising everything to everyone with money that doesn't exist. Let alone all the "green" crap which according to polls has apparently not garnered much if any support. Then there's the ridiculous stance (more like a swaying bridge) on Adani. I don't think the stink caused by GetUps low stunt with Abbot has done them any good nationally either. By the same token, American style negative attack ads ARE effective, even if you lie outright as GetUp have in other seats.

    I just think the electorate may be wavering because they've heard it all before and because the economy is doing OK. The old f*ckwits we have may be better than new f*ckwits syndrome. BS 's smugness doesn't come across to well either, not that I think Morrison is any more believable.

    I still think the ALP will win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enf View Post
    Agree. Although he's only doing what GetUp does.
    Not really - GetUp are not a political party. They have no candidates and are contesting no seats. They are an advocacy group only, no different yo many others.

    Clive is the leader of the UAP, a political party, with members contesting most seats and also senate positions. As a political party they are producing and authorising ads that are completely false and misleading, but this is winning over the gullible who know no better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post
    Not really - GetUp are not a political party. They have no candidates and are contesting no seats. They are an advocacy group only, no different yo many others.

    Clive is the leader of the UAP, a political party, with members contesting most seats and also senate positions. As a political party they are producing and authorising ads that are completely false and misleading, but this is winning over the gullible who know no better.
    Subtle difference only.

    GetUp are "producing and authorising ads that are completely false and misleading, but this is winning over the gullible who know no better."

    Whether they win over the gullible is another matter as that won't be determined until after the election.
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    Did anyone watch the "grate" debate last night? Not much of a debate, and, if I were, to form an opinion on this alone, then, I suspect that my opinion would still not be formed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteramjet View Post
    Clive’s popularity shows how gullible many voters are, and how paying for a bunch of false and misleading ads wins votes because voters don’t bother to check facts themselves.
    How the Fk is that different to what any political party has EVER done?
    People are Gullible to vote for any of the major partys whom are exactly the same as any other. Morons with a track record as bad as each other. None of them has done anything but bring the country down.

    Seems ironic to me where in this very thread we have agreeance that they all stink and are idiots but somehow this guy stinks more when he hasn't had the opportunity to fk things up yet unlike the others have a proven track record they WILL do and have done so repeatedly. At least with Clive there is a Chance he might surprise us and come through. The others all have many runs on the board to say that running the country further into the ground is virtually guaranteed.

    To say voting for Clive would make a voter " gullible" with the inference that voting for the libs or labour would make said voter smart or intelligent is laughable and is ironic in the extreme to me.
    I think they are all garbage and no matter who gets in will cause the country great grief and send it backwards at an alarming rate so by virtue, a person would be gullible to vote for any of them I reckon.

    I'll probably vote fishers and shooters as they seem legit as any will ever be and If I have to vote for someone, may as well be those that might make some sensible decisions and block the stupid ones where they can. Obviously won't win a majority nor will Clive but at least rather than do nothing useful, maybe I'll be able to help put someone in that will at least be capable of a fraction of Damage control. With the other major idiots all hell bent on pandering to the greenwashed, there is going to need to be a LOT of damage control undertaken to stop this stupid green cult completely destroying the country.

    Maybe that's gullible too but to vote for ANY of the majors I would say is more gullible.

    No matter who wins this one, Australia over all will LOOSE big time.

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    Labor's primary vote has fallen to 36 per cent, its lowest level since Scott Morrison became Prime Minister.

    Ladbrokes betting odds: Coalition > $4.30

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    I don't watch TV or listen to radio much but as much as I have complete disdain for all of them, Every time I hear that shorten say something he seems to make more of tool of himself than the last times I had the displeasure to hear of him.

    Just the look and sound of the guy would be embarrassing to have him as prime minister. Least the other guy is far more presentable as the leader of a country where short arse would be an embarrassment as the head of the local footy club.
    "Ol Clive aint no picture but he still has a better head than short arse.

    If we really wanted to make an impact internationally, lets elect one of our past Supermodel like Miranda Kerr, Jen Hawkins, Kristy Hinze and even Elle still looks good and she ( and all the rest) have a lot more brains than any of the present candidates.

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    Seems the right place to leave this

    If u want to go on an expedition get a Land Rover, if u want to come home from an expedition get a Landcruiser!

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    Bwhahaah!

    Clearly very typically leftist but Still funny as all get out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by george65 View Post
    Bwhahaah!

    Clearly very typically leftist but Still funny as all get out!
    When the truth is funny, its a sign we are all laughing
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanboy View Post
    When the truth is funny, its a sign we are all laughing
    Yeah it is funny that above video satire is quite true.
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    Can't wait to see what they do with Bill Shortarse, or Clive Palmjob. The only person in this election who would be safe from this form of satire would be Pauline Pantsdown, they are a joke in themselves.
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    then whats happening to the demo in the us of a now



    This is an excellent editorial --- gosh, I hope Lebron knows how to read.


    LeBron James calls President Trump a "Bum" and thinks Obama was the best ever. His fans listen to him because he has a talent for basketball, and buying huge mansions.
    The letter writer below, a sports journalist, tells the truth, the truth that applies to most celebrities on the left.

    What follows is a GREAT Letter to Lebron from former Houston news reporter Hal Lundgren. A must read, and definitely should be distributed.
    Post it, send it, whatever. People really need to know the TRUTH.

    January, 2019

    Mr. Lebron James
    The Los Angeles Lakers
    2275 E. Mariposa Ave.
    El Segundo, CA 90245

    Dear Mr. James:

    No one in my circles discusses French Modernist artists. That comforts me. Such a conversation would expose me as an illiterate on French Modernism, just as I am an illiterate on cooking, and many other things.

    When I know nothing on a subject, my mouth stays closed. That's at least one difference in us. You are an economics illiterate. You prove it often. The dishonest "reporters” who cover you want to be your buddy.
    They won't embarrass you by being honest journalists, and treating your words as economics illiteracy. When you call Trump "a bum", none of them will tell you that statistics rank him as one of our best presidents for black Americans. His tax cuts and freeing us from absurd regulations have resulted in -- after only 24 months -- the lowest unemployment numbers EVER for Hispanic and black Americans, and one of the lowest numbers for women.

    DURING THOSE 24 MONTHS, TRUMP'S POLICIES CREATED ABOUT FOUR TIMES MORE MANUFACTURING JOBS THAN WERE CREATED DURING THE ENTIRE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION’S EIGHT YEARS!!!

    Remember during the Trump campaign when Obama mistakenly said, "What's Trump gonna do? Wave a magic wand? These lost manufacturing jobs are not coming back.” Maybe manufacturing job growth depends on a president who knows what the hell he's doing as opposed to some smiling idiot that was nothing more than a community organizer...

    As a professional journalist, I cringe at some of Trump’s buffoonery, like repeating sentences and wearing us out with "great," “fantastic” and other empty adjectives. He is egotistical and bombastic. He was not my original candidate which just goes to show how wrong I was. But there’s no question his policies have helped many more minority Americans than Obama. It's not even close.
    Today, he’s working to free many black and Hispanic prisoners who, in his opinion, have been in prison too long for relatively minor offenses. Are you aware of that effort?

    You need to look up Gross Domestic Product, adjusted for inflation, and learn what it means to everyday Americans. Learn what one GDP point means to employment, and see how Trump has kept the numbers climbing.

    Your buddy Obama? In addition to being our worst foreign affairs president, and worst military commander-in-chief, his economic numbers all deserved an "F."
    He is our ONLY eight-year president who failed to give us at least one 3% or higher year of adjusted GDP growth. EVERY other president achieved at least one year of 4.28% or higher growth. Aided by Vietnam spending, Johnson had an 8.48 year. The best peacetime year -- 7.83 -- belonged to Reagan. ...And Obama couldn't even score a 3??? ..Go ahead. Look it up.

    You say you would talk to Obama, but not Trump? Why? Is it because you're a star basketball player, and you feel this God given talent elevates you above speaking to the most powerful person on the face of the earth? How tragic that your ego is so misplaced.

    Obama had BY FAR the worst debt accumulation record of all our presidents in our history. His economic blunders added about $9 trillion to our debt. NO OTHER PRESIDENT EVEN CAME CLOSE. That's ALMOST as much indebtedness as ALL of the former POTUS'S combined!! This debt will fall to you, your children, and your grandchildren....

    Poor families suffered most during Obama's tenure while he & his family were on VACATION, most of his time in office, on taxpayer funds! His awful job numbers forced a record number of people to receive food stamps. Black household income under Obama fell steeply as black unemployment rose. ... Oh yes, you can look that up, too.

    But the worst part of what Trump inherited is that Obama, like Bush and Clinton before him, thought bribes and sweet talk were the best ways to deal with North Korea. As the North Koreans neared being able to wipe out your present area of employment, Los Angeles, with a nuclear-tipped missile, Trump became the first president to stand up boldly to this rogue nation. Have you noticed North Korea, because of Trump, has stopped launching missiles over Japan? ....Noticed; North Korea has released political prisoners?...Notice; North Korea has returned the remains of U.S. Service members? ...Absent sturdy spines, Clinton, Bush, and Obama could not approach those major achievements.

    Obama naively bribed the planet’s worst terrorist nation, Iran, with what was supposed to become a $150 billion handout, mostly in cash, and without notifying Congress. Did Obama not know many of those U.S. Tax dollars would help fund Hamas and Hezbollah terrorism? Of course, he did. He just wanted to appease the masses.

    Remember the $800 billion of your, and everyone else's tax dollars in his early stimulus for "shovel-ready jobs." Most of those tax dollars went to political cronies. He handed $500 million to Solyndra, a solar company run by HIS boosters. The company soon went bankrupt. Our half-billion in tax dollars vanished with it. (And Trump can't get 5.7 billion to build a wall to keep ALL Americans safe because he is asking to do it LEGALLY with Congress' approval?)

    Trump is often obnoxious, but people with courage often have that hang up. Obama always talked big, smiled a lot, then feebly stood by and did nothing. A perfect example was when Putin infringed on Ukraine and annexed Crimea. What did Obama do?? ...Not one damned thing!!

    One of Obama's most cowardly moves came when he warned Assad not to cross "the red line" in Syria. When Obama’s warning was ignored, which Assad knew would happen, Obama once again did nothing.
    Now please Mr. James, be honest.. If this happened with Trump in charge, do you really think this action would have occurred without some retaliation?? ...Hopefully, you're not that naive.

    It makes me sad that you, as someone with a national voice would be so ignorant of economics, and also presidential decisions. I encourage you to do more reading and thinking as you watch the nation's GDP numbers improve, and minority employment rise.

    Read about "Right To Try," which frees terminally ill people to sign a lawsuit waiver, and take an experimental drug that might not be approved for many years. Democrats fought this sensible plan for years because it would cost them HUGE donations from the drug industry.

    In order to become at least somewhat intelligently informed, Mr. James, why don't you read about a Navy that Obama left to Trump that struggled with almost half its carrier aircraft unsafe to fly.

    ...Read about Trump's giving the VA the right to fire any employee who neglects or abuses a patient.

    ...Read about Trump's courage in challenging, actually demanding that, NATO partners begin to pay their fair share rather than keep mooching off the U.S.

    ...You might also read the wisdom of two of the world’s brightest people, black intellectuals Dr. Thomas Sowell and Dr. Walter Williams. They have written numerous books. Sowell and Williams’ integrity, remarkable insights, and clarity of expression cause their common sense to soar off the page to readers, both BLACK and white I might add.

    Or, you could ignore vital Trump decisions, and remain an illiterate on both presidential achievement and economics. If you disdain knowledge, and keep calling Trump or any other U.S. president a bum, YOUR word; other people with normal intelligence might actually begin to wonder who the real bum is with a bigger mouth than Trump's!

    Sincerely,
    Hal Lundgren

    This article took some backbone to write.. Every fact listed in this letter is verifiable, but alas, the people who should really read it will probably never do so, and will blindly go on thinking and believing whatever pulp news is fed to them via the liberal media, and will still vote for the so called “free stuff” until the money runs out. When reality hits them in the face, and their pocketbook they will wonder what the hell happened. ....And you can be sure, they'll NEVER believe the truth and how wrong socialism is even with Venezuela a prime example at this very moment. ....We have fallen to a level I never believed possible in my lifetime. So sad!!

    In Australia we face a choice on 18th May; socialism with an irrational demanding green core or a more rational, thoughtful approach which is focused on a carefully thought through way to handle the problems, which will inevitably confront us, which will not wreck the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hinekadon View Post

    What follows is a GREAT Letter to Lebron from former Houston news reporter Hal Lundgren. A must read, and definitely should be distributed.
    Thanks hinekedon, though linkage would be nice

    In Hal worked in ANY so called msm 'news' corps he would find himself very swiftly out of a job after writing/publishing this letter, along with the baying ignorant 'woke' masses doxing him and baying for his blood......literally !!!!
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